Vladimir Stukov II

[quote name='Kevin McDonald' timestamp='1324194793' post='2881082'] GOD wins any way this ends. Either we win outright, or we get a white peace, or someone does keep us at war trying to impose all the terms that Xiph has lobbied for during his career, thus legitimizing his actions. And to whoever responded to me that "the son will burn out" when I said Vlad's money will run out... just... that's just sad. Like, really man. [/quote] I'm thinking part of my terms include an OWF posting ban for you.

[quote name='TheDoctor' timestamp='1324192580' post='2881054'] Maybe I am a bit old fashioned but I don't see a 3 nation AA as an alliance. Being a rogue doesn't always have to do with being deleted. [/quote] Well it's too bad that your opinion on what constitutes an alliance doesn't matter in this situation.

[quote name='TheDoctor' timestamp='1324189573' post='2881020'] ...In response to a thread that is nothing but pure posturing from a rogue who has no power to impose terms at all. [/quote] How do you figure Ordo Paradoxia are rogues? We simply used the preemptive strike that is so popular today. A rogue is a nation that hits an alliance or nations they dislike to cause some damage before being deleted. We started a war with the goal of defeating GOD. We are now part of a broader coalition that is fighting GOD and other alliances with the same goal of defeating them. The way these things usually end is the winning side gets to impose terms. If our coalition wins we get to impose terms. We have done our fair share of damage as part of this coalition, destroying over 150,000 infra and 35,000 tech from GOD.

[quote name='Crymson' timestamp='1324151547' post='2880643'] Yes, and eventually the sun will stop producing light. What's your point? [/quote] But we will all be dead before both occur.

[quote name='IYIyTh' timestamp='1324020489' post='2879713'] Yeah, they do help. You're a moron if you say otherwise. If you need psychological motivation in a text-based clicking game there's something wrong with you. [/quote] Guess you can mark me down as a moron. Having a bunch of useless nations in your alliance is usually detrimental. Having meat shields as allies is usually helpful, even though active allies are preferred. I've gone from an alliance consisting of mostly inactive meat shields to TOP where there were maybe only a handful of inactives. The difference is night and day. Even if you think "something is wrong with me" for believing this, an alliance's spirit is very important. If members see that they are all fighting well and doing as much or even more damage to the enemy they are likely to want to continue fighting hard for much longer than members in an alliance that is losing half its nation strength while causing little damage to the enemy. The members in the latter alliance will feel defeated very early into the war and this is the reason you see so many alliances surrender in a week or two. When you are in an active alliance you see that you are doing damage to your enemy and see that your alliance mates are doing the same which gives you the feeling that you are making a difference. In an inactive alliance you may be doing damage to your enemy, but at the same time you look around and see your alliance mates aren't even fighting back. This makes you feel as if your effort is all for nothing. And if you don't believe me that meat shields usually make your alliance suck, just look at the actual in game examples. Alliances that have historically consisted of mostly inactives such as MHA and Sparta have proven to be horrible on the battlefield while the "elite" alliances such as TOP, MK, Umbrella, Gremlins, etc... have proven to be fierce fighters.

[quote name='Kevin McDonald' timestamp='1324103495' post='2880380'] This presumes we accept terms. [/quote] How many times have we heard this from alliances that are much greater than GOD will ever be?

The only thing Xiph has done is lead a crappy bloc that was only relevant due to its connection with MK. I led the greatest military ever seen on Planet Bob.

[quote name='Tygaland' timestamp='1323938345' post='2878755'] I don't think you interpreted my comment correctly. I made no judgement of Xiphosis at all. I merely stated that Vladimir Stukov's comment that he could not possibly by lesser than Xiphosis as Xiphosis is a nobody was based on the assumption of those things being mutually exclusive. That is, it is possible that Xiphosis could be a nobody and yet Vladimir Stukov be lesser than him. [/quote] In that case there's only one way to find out, in game duel. I'm pretty sure he's the one in bill lock.

[quote name='Vol Navy' timestamp='1323905438' post='2878110'] I will say this for him. He's the main reason that two blocs are getting rolled right now. That's pretty impressive. [/quote] I would say he's only a main reason people wanted SF to be rolled. But SF is probably the weakest bloc there is right now so it's not that big of a deal.

Show me where I mocked Xiph's loyalty. Honestly I don't even know about Xiph's or Bilrow's loyalty and who they betrayed or didn't betray. All I know is they are infamous for being hard asses and were only able to act that way due to the support of stronger allies. I would probably have some respect for Xiph if his alliance had even 1/10th the power he thinks it does. Thankfully wars like this put the crappy alliances in their place where they will likely stay while the better alliances rise again.

[quote name='Sniper Joe' timestamp='1323898553' post='2878018'] And you're who? Moldavi? [/quote] Never claimed to be someone special. Was just refuting the guy who said I will never be as good as Xiph when IMO Xiph isn't great at all.

Xiph ain't got !@#$ on me. He's nothing more than a loudmouth who thinks he's powerful because he had strong allies. He's a modern day Bilrow.

[quote name='Kevin McDonald' timestamp='1323874528' post='2877788'] Alright. Well, it's not really a point worth arguing is it? However I think some of you truly believe that GOD would submit themselves to some sort of archaic or humiliating terms just to end this farce. That is laughable. If we go down, then so be it, but we have more resolve than all those alliances we have conquered. We'll put Valhalla, NEAT and TSC to bed in the current conflict, which Vlad must be hating because it takes the attention off him (a point proven by the existence of this thread), and then we will continue to play this game of Vlad's. But anyone who wants to take "GOD disbands at the hands of Vlad" as the outcome in this little pool, well, find me on IRC and I'll put some money up against you. [/quote] Actually I created this thread because the current war has made GOD's pending surrender imminent.

[quote name='WorkingClassRuler' timestamp='1323841864' post='2877430'] Most feared? Come on. NPO had most of CN spooked for years, there's no way you can compare the two. Most destructive? Probably. Not sure how it counts if you don't reclaim #1, if indeed you care about such a thing. And if you don't care about such a thing, why bother commenting on other's actions as #1? It's silly. [/quote] Most feared at the time by far. Sure NPO was more feared when they were #1. When TOP was #1 their opponents spent hours discussing ways that they could defeat them. There was a whole power sphere centered around TOP. They were one of three alliances in that post Karma era, along with MK and NpO, that could really move a whole coalition to action. So how can you say TOP failed when MHA hasn't come close to accomplishing any of this?

[quote name='WorkingClassRuler' timestamp='1323841324' post='2877414'] words [/quote] MHA and Sparta have always been seen as giant meat shields because you have a ton of NS and hardly any good members. And lol @ you saying TOP failed at being #1. When they were #1 they were the most feared alliance in all of CN and started the most destructive war we will probably ever see.

Maybe the least influential alliance to ever be #1?

If you start getting 100k+ casualties per day there is no way I'm catching you. Seems like there are also a few people breathing down my neck. FFFFFFF I'm gonna have to buy more infra.

[quote name='NewPoseidon' timestamp='1323740497' post='2875884'] yes, yes. someone big attack fok pls. don't check their treaties just do it. [/quote] Hence the lack of balls. No one would dare attack an alliance politically connected to the winning side. I understand why it needs to be that way, I just disagree with it and would attack them for opposing the coalition. This is why you should never make me dictator of an alliance that cares about its infra or political capital.

I couldn't give a !@#$ what Xiph's world view is.

[quote name='Troy and Abed' timestamp='1323735161' post='2875785'] I hope someone tries. Non Grata would be most obliged to kick the snot out of them. [/quote] Sorry your coalition will hang you out to dry TSA.

You're right, Sparta isn't a joke.

FOK is a joke. It's too bad no one has the balls to roll you.

I was thinking of joining them but you have made me change my mind. Thank you!

[quote name='Brehon' timestamp='1323684505' post='2875094'] As much as I would love to see people pay for the BS they have pulled, this is a great time to put an end to old grudges and let the political landscape evolve into something new. Frankly, and people will hate me for saying this, when the war is over, it should be over. White peace to all and move on. Yeah yeah, there will be a point(and there already has) when I have given a very different view, but I want you to read the opening line again before you begin to chastise me. [/quote] The thing is that guys like Xiphosis and Ramirus are still going to be dicks at the end of the war so you might as well make them suffer when you can.

[quote name='TheDoctor' timestamp='1323640169' post='2874258'] It's cute how you pretend it isn't true. [/quote] Man the way you post is so damn annoying.