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General Ian is confused on how tech deals work. His assumption is he gets the money and buys tech and keeps it. EEjack edited for clarity.

Mazeltov! o/ IRON o/ DAWN o/ Grämlins Shame it took this long EEjack

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1280170669' post='2389919'] If I were IRON I'd just stop declaring new wars on Gre and start paying reps to whoever they owe. At this point the war's over except for the paperwork. [/quote] And deal with the constant threat of attack from an alliance that refuses to come to terms with reality? Surrender or obliteration seems to be the only terms grämlins will accept - just leaving them there to reignite the war would be daft. EEjack

Mazeltov Congrats to both on keeping things cool... EEjack

[quote name='ironchef' date='18 July 2010 - 08:19 PM' timestamp='1279498724' post='2377969'] I'm a chef EEjack, and as everyone knows there is nothing we love more than pork fat. Don’t be so fast to think I see OG as something not useful. IRON has done what they feel is best for thier alliance and I'm sure OG will continue on as they have always done. Best of luck to the both of you. o/ pork fat [/quote] I am quite the fan of the can o' bacon grease on the stove myself. ( a hankering for biscuits and gravy now ) o/ pork fat EEjack

[quote name='ironchef' date='18 July 2010 - 07:44 PM' timestamp='1279496680' post='2377929'] I would never speak for IRON. Just how I see it. Although it was not all fat, sometimes you must excise a tumor along with the fat. [/quote] Either you just called Old Guard fat or a tumor. Either is out of line. While I appreciate that you have a need to say something, please be kind enough to direct your vitriol somewhere else. Thanks, EEjack

Best Wishes IRON - we know not where the road goes but it was a pleasure to travel a bit of it with you stout fellows. o/IRON o/OG EEjack

[quote name='Baldr' date='18 July 2010 - 11:42 AM' timestamp='1279467742' post='2377275'] You are complaining that IRON didn't just throw everything they had at Gramlins all at once, lose, and comply with Gramlins. Now doing *that* would have been retarded. [/quote] They did not need to. Old Guard and Zenith ran into the brick wall that *was* grämlins early in the war ( Of course we got our teeth kicked in but we tied them up for a while ) in defense of IRON. It was enough to blunt and befuddle the early stages of the grämlins offensive, though to grämlin's credit, we are still recovering months later. EEjack

[quote name='Believland' date='16 July 2010 - 02:36 PM' timestamp='1279305368' post='2374807'] Just send them a message about the tech deal. 3 mil for 100 tech. Enjoy [/quote] Deal made, money sent. Thanks for trading. EEjack

[quote name='Crymson' date='14 July 2010 - 07:25 PM' timestamp='1279149905' post='2371757']Maybe you're unaware of just how horrid he is in conversation, though I doubt it. More likely you're just in denial, as you seem to view him as a Cybernations deity. Rest assured that TOP isn't the only alliance he treated like garbage. I think you'll find that the vast majority of people who have spoken to him at the government level have found him to be unapproachable and insufferable. Of course, I doubt you'll ever believe that such is what he's like. [/quote] I can vouch for this. While my dealing with Ram was fairly limited during my time at Citadel he was abusive, threatening and extremely cocksure about his own place in the cyberverse. While he may or may not have completely orchestrated the Karma war it was his stated opinion that he did indeed do so and Old Guard only survived the conflict due to his 'sufferance'. Honestly, I am still perplexed how good solid folks and leaders like SynthFG, MatthewPK, Chill and Oman Nams gave way to such a boorish and inept leader. I keep expecting to find out this is a joke and someone just forget to tell the punch line. EEjack

Long term steady deals 3M for 100T. pm for details. http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=140213 EEjack

[quote name='flak attack' date='07 July 2010 - 09:00 AM' timestamp='1278507639' post='2362370'] "Because Grey Council doesn't have a Declaration of Neutrality like all the other neutrals, they aren't neutral" -EEjack, July 6, 2010 [/quote] It depends...is it commonly accepted, or is it like grämlins paperless treaties and not commonly accepted? ( don't know anything about neutrals since...well, they are neutrals. it is kinda of like being the waterboy at a football game. ) EEjack

[quote name='Matthew PK' date='05 July 2010 - 09:06 PM' timestamp='1278378374' post='2360621'] EEJack, I am pretty certain that you are smarter than this. Why would you take the "not having treaties means you are always an aggressor" position? It's demonstrably based on the "legality above all else" mentality. It is, has been, and will continue to be possible to act defensively (and necessarily) without a piece of paper authorizing you to do so. [/quote] Simply put - the norm, the 'common law' as it were, is to put treaties on paper for most to see. Since grämlins do not follow 'common law' they simply have no justification that is commonly accepted to attack anyone. Therefore any attack grämlins make is aggressive. You may feel that grämlins are above this common law, but obviously, based on this discussion, the commons do not agree. EEjack

[quote name='Thorgrum' date='04 July 2010 - 09:24 PM' timestamp='1278293075' post='2359843'] No matter how loud or often people attempt to rewrite the way the gramlins entered this conflict the facts will never change. The ending, you'll get no argument from me they $%&@ed up largely because the brain trust at gre put thier eggs in the Ramirus basket and well, he's a smart guy he just lacks the requsite humility to make that final leap to brilliant. [/quote] Honestly I don't know from ramirus ( other than to know he is not as smart he as wants to believe he is ) - I dealt with SynthFG and MatthewPK and that nice fellow from Filipino Heroes. Sadly that alliance disappeared. However, yes, I personally believe Grämlins were the aggressor and they abused/confounded/worked around the normal political mechanisms to achieve advantages. I do not think they were wrong do so, but it difficult to avoid the sneaky, underhanded, behind the back vibe that goes along with 'secret unwritten' arrangements. If folks knew the entirety of the treaty web, perhaps the whole of the war could have been avoided. Grämlin obfuscation may have actually escalated and exacerbated the conflict. Certainly it brought in OG and Zenith and Filipino Heroes and escalated Fark's role directly. What confounds me is individually, grämlins fought with great integrity, yet as an organization chose to use hidden politics. Thorgrum - my beliefs are based in what I experienced and the folks I spoke with on both sides, yours are colored differently and I apologize if I came across as anything other than respectful of your views. EEjack

[quote name='SynthFG' date='04 July 2010 - 06:56 PM' timestamp='1278284151' post='2359730'] Similarly when Zenith looked like they were going to be more trouble than Gre needed in matching up against the soft sub 50k NS underbelly, FARK had no problems in answering Gre's request for assistance due to the strength of that relationship at the time, again to there credit I didn't see Zenith crying about paper when they did, [/quote] That is because Zenith rocked. Though to be completely fair - everyone knew about the relationship between Old Guard and Zenith so Grämlins could predict what they would face. The inherently sneaky backroom only dealings of Grämlins meant Old Guard and Zenith had no idea what we were facing when we protected IRON from Grämlins' aggression. The paperless treaty system means Grämlins is always the aggressor since they have no treaties that anyone else recognizes. It also means folks can reasonably surmise that Grämlins bought Fark's assistance against Zenith. A little bit of paper completely removes both of those thoughts. EEjack edit: werds are tough.

[quote name='Thorgrum' date='03 July 2010 - 03:48 PM' timestamp='1278186516' post='2358879'] A lot of Gramlins who fought early in the war have moved on. I was one of them, and as we know the victors write the history, this war as it drags on it will be remembered largely for how it ended. Within it were a lot of alliance to alliance stories. Old Guard and Zenith were competent warriors who threw themselves at higher tech nations to keep us pinned down so Iron could fight on against other opponents. It was an honor fighting you when I was at GRE, hopefully in the annuals of Bob the historians will accurately portray the Gramlins from start to finish, although I find it unlikely. cheers [/quote] Old Guard will remember the Thorgrums a lot longer than this 'new breed' of Grämlins. You guys fought hard and without malice and we felt every shot you guys took. Whoever got the grämlins that moved on got folks I would stand next to in a scrape, rather than go toe to toe with. EEjack

I wander away for a while and the grämlins I fought against who were straightforward and forthright, seem to have been replaced with a poorly built knockoff. What a shame. EEjack

o/ Harvey the Hamster

Isn't that how some folks are defining rogue nowadays?

When Old Guard was tasked with hitting Grämlins the consensus was that we were running head first into a brick wall without a helmet. And Zenith said - oh, goody, can we come? Grämlins was the brick wall we expected, Zenith was the battering ram no one expected. We tip our soiled and tattered caps to both. EEjack

o/Zenith Words cannot express the gratitude Old Guard feels, nor the awesomeness that is Zenith. EEjack

Very tasty looking brew. You never really know your allies until you do some thing awesome with them. Not only are you guys rock solid stand up dudes but you got beer chops as well. o/ Zenith o/ Beer EEjack

[quote name='Lord Zymeth' date='22 February 2010 - 11:53 PM' timestamp='1266900834' post='2198538'] Elaborate? I'm just trying to prove a point. I'm not pulling on anyone in particular's tail, just trying to see things the way other people see things. Not purposefully trying to be disrepectful or whatever you want to call it, I'm just trying to findout what's going on... [/quote] From the thread you pointed out.... "Dang, your good. Besides how did you know that I was in the Legion and "just left" besides telling that was my last alliance. " In response to a simple, did you just leave Legion question. It is argumentative, pointed and sarcastic. You could have said..."Yes, I just left Legion" but instead you choose to be confrontational. You need to be more conversant if you wish folks to pay any heed. EEjack

[quote name='Lord Zymeth' date='22 February 2010 - 11:33 PM' timestamp='1266899638' post='2198499'] Sample posting of what I'm sorta talking about... http://mostlyharmlessalliance.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9589 [/quote] Based on the posting you pointed out and here you tend to be obnoxious and aggressive. Perhaps you ought to try being nice. BTW - I still have no idea who you are. EEjack

[quote name='Duncan King' date='22 February 2010 - 07:58 PM' timestamp='1266886723' post='2198214'] GRE originally wanted a haiku out of me and Fark wanted a beer review. I figured I'd combine the two for my own amusement. [/quote] And a new artform is created. The Beirku. [center]Rodenbach Red [img]http://www.hallofbeers.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/rodenbach.thumbnail.jpg[/img] malty chewiness sour red ale from flanders bold head frothing white [/center] o/ Peace and Beer EEjack edit: poet failure fixed