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[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1319903952' post='2834474'] If Varianz is responsible for the screenshots, why did Legion declare on Tetris instead of NSO? I don't follow. [/quote] Varianz claimed responsibility (or was outed and then had his petulant little outburst) after the war had started. The best bit is he claims Legion knew he supplied the screen shots but that his own government didn't. Makes you wonder what goes on over at the NSO.

[quote name='Krunk the Great' timestamp='1319901262' post='2834450'] Im not the accuser, I don't have to do a thing If you can't point to a post I guess it doesn't exist. (Because if it did, you could) [/quote] http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=106028&view=findpost&p=2825543 There you go.

[quote name='Krunk the Great' timestamp='1319899132' post='2834433'] Wow, Talk about baseless accusations. Legion attacked Tetris We attacked Legion because we have a MDP and that's what MDP partners do. Your fixation with Varianz can't be healthy. [/quote] It was Varianz who announced that he provided the screen shots or are we supposed to just forget that?

[quote name='Garion' timestamp='1319897940' post='2834428'] Legion's position is not an easy one. This far this war has proved to be a very nice PR and pride boost, but a tthis point the path is difficult: keep fighting against a tough opponent, with the possible involvment of other enemies? What will this bring? Arrange some sort of peace with them, probably disgruntling some members? Don't let this (partial) success overpride yourself. You are doing fine, but remember the world surrounding you and your allies. [/quote] A few days ago our Pro Consul announced that all we require from Tetris and NSO is surrender. There are no punitive reps standing in the way of peace. Bear in mind that I'm not gov but as far as I know this has not changed. It seems to me that NSO are the ones in a difficult position. They engineered this situation, granted it's not what they wanted but they created it. It's true that the perception of Legion has changed in the last few weeks but NSO's image is the important thing here. They have the means to bring this to an end but pride stands in their way.

[quote name='The Big Bad' timestamp='1319894705' post='2834407'] The fact they attacked a much larger alliance alone in defense of an ally and have stayed the course should tell you all you need to know. In fact you really could learn a thing or two from them. [/quote] I'm not sure what you mean here. NSO aren't some heroic band of warriors defending an ally. They provided Tetris with screen shots that Varianz obtained from a spy in Legion and hatched an inept plan to create a larger conflict. They're fools who have caused their ally Tetris to be left in pieces all over the floor. All I can deduce from their "staying the course" as you put it is that their stupidity is matched by their pride.

[quote name='Grey Fox' timestamp='1319893235' post='2834399'] How many times? NSO hasn't called in a single ally, and we've been outlining that we won't since the start of the conflict. [/quote] I'm amazed that you have the option. Why anyone would want to be allied to you is beyond my understanding.

NSO are the embodiment of failure. Failed plans, failed execution, failed PR. What the hell they're still fighting for I don't know. I suspect it's pride and their failure to understand that they have none left since Varianz decided to confess his procurement of screen shots from a spy in Legion and supply them to Tetris. NSO, just disband. You're a joke.

[quote name='Gibsonator21' timestamp='1319846157' post='2834100'] No. I think RV is being RV. [/quote] He's normally brash and superior but his latest rants are desperate and pathetic. I'm worried about him.

Does anyone else think RV's having some kind of breakdown?

The alliances left in this war deserve this war. Varianz supplied the screen shots, Tetris posted them.

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1319819094' post='2833672'] [color="#0000FF"]No, not really. I am simply speaking the Truth. Although considering it is so rarely spoken around these parts I can understand if it might baffle some of you when you finally here it. While I am sure Legion has every right to be impressed with themselves, as beating two alliances currently more worthless than Legion is just about the most it has ever done, it really is not that impressive. It is the alliance-wide equivalent of the one guy with a once big nation that is patting himself on the back for being able to nuke newbies, proclaiming himself a god of war. Nobody is impressed, and it only makes it you look stupid when you do it. That said, I do get a small laugh from you people cheering on Legion (which you all despise, whether you have the courage to admit it or not), exalting it as a competent and respectable alliance (which you all know isn't true, whether you have the courage to admit it or not), and all just because you dislike NSO so much. But why? Because we do not conform to your awful, awful standards. In an age where all of you complain loudly about the stale state of affairs, of how boring things are, and begging someone - anyone - to make things interesting for you, the NSO is one of the few to provide. Yet as soon as we do so we are condemned and crucified by the same people we try to help. Our only crime is not being the pseudointellectual fools that most of you are, instead daring to tell the Truth.[/color] [color="#0000FF"]Well quite frankly you don't. Being MHA's little "me-too" every war does not exactly qualify you to speak on the subject.[/color] [/quote] You're just misunderstood RV. Bless.

o/ Legion. How long before Tetris and NSO surrender?

[quote name='the rebel' timestamp='1319801879' post='2833516'] I find that hard to believe, seeing as you joined that tiny crusade against GoD became bankcrupt then surrendered, all that within a short time scale. So its questionable that all 16? nations you fought are all worse than those at GoD, but then again you could be cherry picking targets [/quote] He could, though it's not exactly hard to find targets to hit with virtual impunity. Most of NSO in my experience are inactive or just plain awful. I've only fought 3 with any fight in them, 2 are gov and the other (with an MP) has left NSO for Legacy. They talk a good one and they're in amongst other alliances that have spread the load for them but this war is in terminal decline for them.

It fills me with joy when you post TehChron. Impart your wisdom, tell us about the current war situation and how it will develop.

Confusing threads are confusing. There's a stats thread, political/blame type posts so this thread was started to keep it tidy. Now the stats talk is in this thread. I'm not sure about rolled but the stats are moving in one direction - Legion is winning the numbers.

What are the stats telling us now?

[quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1319565182' post='2832176'] It'll probably work better if you're not so laughably transparent. [/quote] There's no lines to read between. If Varianz still has a spy see my posts on the Legion forums. I don't want peace. Not even slightly. I want us to burn NSO to the ground whatever the costs.

[quote name='TehChron' timestamp='1319564926' post='2832171'] Polar aid can only cushion your infra repurchases for so long. You can only import so many nations from other alliances. Once the logistics even out down the road, we'll be back to where we were in the first round. I, for one, am looking forward to that point. [/quote] Good man. No peace. Lets fight.

[quote name='youwish959' timestamp='1319564081' post='2832163'] So what is it over there exactly that is making you think you are in a position to be demanding surrenders? [/quote] I'm not gov. I'm sure you can find gov in a channel somewhere and ask them. I like your post though sunshine, you sound like a man who thinks he's winning which is great. Lets fight on.

[quote name='Heft' timestamp='1319562817' post='2832158'] It's difficult to take this sort of post seriously when you yourself are puffing out your chest throughout the last page or so of the thread, and most of the war. At least my bravado has a rational basis. [/quote] You misunderstand, I'm not criticising you for it. I want it. And yes, I'm doing exactly the same. I'm not gov so I have no influence over Legion policy but if I can keep you at war just by baiting you all I will. I really don't want this war to end before it's gone right to the end. That you do too makes me very happy. Edit: It's best if the post makes sense.

[quote name='Varianz' timestamp='1319562622' post='2832152'] Did you just call yourself a !@#$ cat...? Might I suggest taking a break for a little bit? [/quote] I'd have got away with it as well......

[quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1319562650' post='2832153'] Not when he's the one saying it. I didn't understand the last sentence of that post at all. [/quote] Neither do I actually. I think there's a missing "out".

[quote name='Heft' timestamp='1319562313' post='2832144'] It doesn't matter what sort of surrender Legion wants to see, as they aren't in any position to request a surrender.[/quote] That's my boy, pound your chest, never give in. Make me a happy cat. EDIT: Word filter

[quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1319562168' post='2832142'] Man, you really need to work on how you word your posts. [/quote] He uses ten words where one would suffice I grant you, but come on, it's pretty clear what's being said now.

There's some drivel being talked in this thread. I think our Gov has explained. But just once more for everyone. We want the surrender of Tetris, the surrender of NSO. No more. No less. No reps, no punitive conditions. Just a simple acknowledgement that they have lost the war by saying "We surrender". IAA/BTT/NsO walk away as there is no longer anything keeping them in the conflict. A simple "thank you gentlemen, it's been fun, see you around". Can everyone understand that? That's what government have asked for/want. Me? I hope NSO never surrender. Really.