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  1. 1 hour ago, Lucius Optimus said:

    @Tevron I seem to remember a micro confederation from not that long ago apply sanctions to the most heinous raiders in just the way thats being described here. 

     

    It was an interesting application of the mechanic to be sure. It was done for the opposite reasons though. It was done to provoke a conversation rather than a conflict with Doom because they were well aware winning a straight fight wasn't an option when faced with such numbers. 

     

    I'll note that no war was ever officially declared on those fools over their using the sanctions that way. 

    I'm all for sanctioning rogues. At the time DBDC was taking rogue actions. There's a reason they didn't just get lifted by GATO at my direction immediately. I told steeldor to approach the sanction requesters for a diplomatic resolution. After dbdc declared war on the world they basically blurred themselves into a rhetorical grey area imo.

     

    Note: VAMO.

  2. 1 hour ago, Smitty256 said:

    You say that sanctions aren't a response to raiders, maybe they should be. Especially if they are chronic raiders and especially if they are raiding aligned nations. Because the fact of the matter is that they are chronic raiders. They will raid until either they get bored and go do something else or they get called out for it, in which case they will probably just gaslight you.

    I think that's a totally fair position to take, but I don't see how sanctioning a raider is gonna provoke anything but war between sanctioners and the raider alliance. Like if orange (as an example) sanctioned the NG nations that had partaken in shark week, I would totally see NG responding with war against those orange nations, as sanctions are way way way more damaging then a couple of GAs.

    Having been sanctioned not once, but twice in instances that involved war, I think I can tell you that it would be a disproportionate response to sanction a raider, and thus jeopardize all of the aid and trade circles they have with their whole alliance. There's a reason we don't even use sanctions during wars - or do you think we should weaponize sanctions broadly?

  3. 10 hours ago, Smitty256 said:

    Doom can raid and plunder any alliance they want without consequences

    If only. The main consequence has always been a bunch of bickering on the OWF. Gotta hand it to JA that he manages to fight and type on the OWF, that's much more than most can say who whine about Doom. UCR also put their money where their mouth was here, which shows that they have a lot more stones than people who can only cast them verbally.

     

    I think most people aren't complaining UCR snapped back at all. Some people are under the impression that you shouldn't defend your allies because they raided. Depends on the situation for sure, but I could see why DS would defend DW after the AA was sanctioned. Sanctions are not a response to raiders but for rogues and Al may be handsome, but he ain't a rogue. Sanctions have always been an act of war when used in this way. As well, are the literal wars!

     

    As for moral high ground, the do-nothings have taken it all already. World peace and all that jazz.

  4. 2 hours ago, Velocity said:

    I am unreservedly dismayed at the utter lack of memes in these war threads. This absence is far too draconian for my tastes... I petition for the meme departments of each respective alliance to go into full meme production immediately! 
     

    I’ll even give you all some inspiration with some memes for all sides!
     

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    Planet Bob looks an awful lot like Ohio. I agree that people should lighten up! Too much salt ruins any dish, good or bad.

  5. 10 minutes ago, lilweirdward said:

     

    Everyone complains about everything. Some people were complaining about the very fair and harmless non-war between DS and Kashmir for not expanding enough lol. We're all old and want things to happen, but not in a way that isn't ideal to our specific causes, so we do what all old people do: we complain. Not sure why anyone cares about the complaining, much less why so many people - especially those in leadership of bigger alliances - seemingly do things based on what other people might or might not complain about.

    I just thought of it as reflective of FiringLine's point, that JA seems to hold two contrary opinions simultaneously.

  6. 4 minutes ago, firingline said:

     

    Weren't you just screeching about DS fulfilling their treaty obligations and defending Doom Wolves?

     

    Which is it? 

     

    It's sort of like how people complain about people never doing anything, and then DW, UCR, DS, and DT all do things and people are in every single thread just complaining about it. It's no wonder the biggest alliances don't do all that much.

    Except for CLAWS, they are the secret masterminds of every single thing that happens in the game.
    Or NG.

    Depending on which side of the web you're on you check under your bed for a different boogieman.

  7. 6 hours ago, dane0 said:

    30 more members than GATO

    20 more members than KoRT

    40 more members than NATO

    50 more members than DT

    50 more members than VE

    50 more members than ODN

     

     

    Yet all are larger than us on this web 🤷‍♂️

     

    Might be strength, but that still doesn't explain VE being larger than us.

    If I had to guess it's because the circle sizes were from an earlier version when NG was ranked like 20th or whatever.

  8. Just now, Jason8 said:

    And since @SirWilliam had to post a potato for an image... Here's the text.

     

    The GIFs in Public Accords

     

    CLAWS and Kashmir agree that not posting GIFs in Public is a tragedy, but too many GIFs is also a tragedy.

     

    CLAWS and Kashmir agree to:

    1) Allow each other's alliance members to post GIFs in each other's public channels

    2) Realize that during a GIF war, assistance may be requested, be it economic, military, or other forms of aid

    3) Allow each other's alliance members to use external emojis in each other's public channels

    4) Give 72 hour notice of cancellation if the GIFs become too much.

    Twas hidden under the spoiler tags ;)

     

    Allies become allies, and former enemies become friends! What's not to like! :)

     

  9. 5 hours ago, thebird said:

    No one else offers infra removal services so we have to do it ourselves.

     

    If someone else was up to the task, I'd cash app them 3m & 50 tech faster than you can say "but wait mr. bird te doesn't have aid except for that one round, also the aid caps are actuall[....]"

    I was just trying to remove some infra from FringeLine who had just blockaded me for 24 %, sabotaged my collect and incited govt propoganda, but instead I have three of these infra removal agents at my door! Surely some of them could pay visits to one another instead because it's downright inefficient to leave all this infra in the Empire untouched.

  10. If this is the terms that both parties signed, then that's what they signed and should post, even if it looks and is silly - that's both parties responsibility. But this might have just been another treaty innovation like bringing back reps or taking the snake eyes tech deal idea and making it permanent.

     

    Glad to see peace. Hopefully productive dialogue follows from the second term.

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