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[quote name='Instr' timestamp='1294398921' post='2567172'] Please stop arguing. This thread is about my unrequited love for Confusion. I am crying many tears as we speak. [/quote] Sorry. When is the honeymoon. And confusion! You never told me!

[quote name='Hiro Nakara' timestamp='1294398409' post='2567170'] No it's more a case of people just not rolling over and allowing G6 RE or TPC to dictate how this game is played. The protection over DR has worked a charm don't you think? All that bravado and saying we will play how we want has really worked great. DR is being rolled, your being rolled, your protection means nothing at this point in time. As I said to you before you will get rolled for this and it happened. Why be upset? You brought this on yourselves by upsetting the general populace of TE. [/quote] No I'm happy. This is the round that will be known as the time it took half of TE to fight us. War memories and such. The round isn't even halfway over yet However, rolling over LE was hardly what we were doing. We had little time to act. We could either A: wait to see if they blitz us which requires enormous activity. B: joint effort to try to get on the offensive. Logic is more likely to choose B, which even at that is hard to say worked. A lot of LE nations declared on us quickly. Some people of ours were put into anarchy during the blitz. Really, its the Warriors over active sense of justice and morality. Before Warriors declared I believe LE had lost 10000 NS during the blitz and regained 2000 or so NS during the fight. G-6 lost 10000 NS on the blitz and simply never regained it. You think we don't account for fighting ability. You guys open your stat books and do simple math and when the numbers aren't even it's automatically a moral infraction and something has to be done. The Warriors are dictating more how TE should be played than us. As for the other war we just expanded it, but it wasn't generally lopsided. TPC being blitzed. G-6 and RE low on money. LE extremely well prepared. DF and DR had peace until now. I'm not arguing against the war itself. People play how they want including teaming up to take us on. I'm arguing that we did nothing unfair. No curbstomp was planned. We did what was necessary at the moment. We attempted to even up the fight in numbers because you guys get butthurt when your numbers don't add up but you still got butthurt. We didn't want to overdo it and get smeared all over because we knew what we were facing. If anything we were going for the whole quit acting like TE has rules thing.

[quote name='memoryproblems' timestamp='1294397595' post='2567159'] I was not masked on their forums at the time or on their alliance affiliation, if that elaborates. As for preparation, in TE either your at war or your in preparation for war. Not really any other stages that I can think of. Provided that you say that you were 'untouched', you should have had two weeks of preparation. [/quote] I don't care if your weren't physically in the Warriors alliance. You are part of the warriors. You posted in the forums about the whole cease fire issue. Obviously there is other stages. Before we hit warriors they weren't at war or preparing for it. I believe thats what we call building up. Where I said we rebuilt. Used some of our war chests to buy back infra and such. Either Warriors never left build up, or they just suck if what you say is true.

[quote name='memoryproblems' timestamp='1294397028' post='2567154'] Why would I be upset about the blitz? I was not involved with tW at the time. Also, I am a little confused about your 1 day of preparation statement, it had been longer then that since the first war was peaced out, and you were on the offensive? [/quote] You not involved in the Warriors? Yeah right. You were all over it. We rebuilt after the war and LE became a threat. Being untouched by the Warriors, we were prime targets. So we got messages of the war declare date. Got in 1, possibly 2 collects depending what each nation was doing. Collects were probably not full since many might not have bought back banks and stuff. So that is where 1 day of preparation to fight LE/TFK for G-6 came into play.

[quote name='memoryproblems' timestamp='1294396621' post='2567151'] More then anything what tW found objectionable was your interruption a good war that was fairly balanced. The TPC/GDA/NAC vs. THP/DF/Abyss war was going along well and was a very evenly matched war before you felt the appearant need to become involved in it when you could have easily simply started a completely separate conflict. Now tell me, we didn't do anything like that, did we? [/quote] We could have attacked you again, but seeing how bad the warriors war sadly scared off many of our members into inactivity. So we went from stage A to stage B and did this

[quote name='memoryproblems' timestamp='1294393429' post='2567127'] While OP and GR/NTO are alliances which we have alot of respect for, I wouldn't say that we are on each others "top-friends" list, there is really little to no history of our respective alliances rolling to war with one another. I can not speak on behalf of Clash in this matter, but as of my knowledge, In the past day we have made no request was made by the Warriors to [u]any[/u] alliance requesting that they enter the conflict, much less enter to 'take heat off from us'. I'll pretend not to hear your snide insults and forget to tell you about the G-6 nation who offered peace after some cruise missiles. Ooops, guess I just told you about it after all. Perhaps I picked weak targets (not that my 1600 NS is going to enable me to take on the cream of the crop), but I've yet to face the challenge of a defensive ground attack in 28 hours of war. [/quote] I see your mad about the previous blitz still. We can't help it that we get declared on by half of TE and run out of stuff to fight with considering we only had 1 day preparations for the war.

[quote name='memoryproblems' timestamp='1294394156' post='2567131'] hey now, quit crying. Seriously though, I thought I had elaborated on that point, you decided to mess with a war that was pretty even, [b]AND[/b] when you were done, you had even taken a sizable advantage for yourself in members and NS. We figured... why not swap the scales, you obviously felt it ok to take those odds for yourself so we didn't think that you would have a problem fighting against them, but obviously the GR/NTO and OP declarations have changed that a little more then I would have enjoyed to see. [/quote] He's calling you a hypocrite I think But in fair base. You declare what we did wrong then did it yourself. That is unfortunately textbook hypocrisy.

[quote name='Instr' timestamp='1294387984' post='2567089'] Reading comprehension: 5-man blitz just means that we couldn't get any more. Expect more people to show up as people read their target lists. This is a fairly easy business. Sue for peace with LE; LE messages us to peace out, we peace out, you go back on your merry way. LE, of course, being curb-stomped by a fake DOW versus alliances already in combat, may want their pound of flesh before you're let go. [/quote] Reading comprehension: That's exactly what I meant. We couldn't get a lot for our blitz. Thus others joined to help. The fact that I got my target solo in a 44 man alliance (compared to our numbers) and immediately after the blitz, started to get my ass kicked by him is something to consider if your so worried about morals.

To be fair G-6 was formidable enough to deserve all the attention it's getting. Especially with friends willing to help. We just went into the LE war lacking enough power, thus why we brought friends. Not some evil scheme. LE had power and was essentially the strongest alliance at the moment. So we attempted to go offensive rather than be defensive but everyone got butt hurt. As for curb stomping. Kind of like your guys declarations. "This isn't a curb stomp because we are only sending so many people in." That kind of sums up the LE and others thing. Fresh out of war, with many nations not ready we used the power we deemed necessary. It was a really close war with LE not even losing a lot of NS. They were thoroughly prepared for war. Unlike G-6. I think before the Warriors and Tetris declared, G-6 had lost more NS than LE. Edit: And I'm not saying it wasn't to much power. I have no idea if it was to much power because we never got into war really. But judging by LE's actions it would have been a tough fight. My opponent: I blitzed solo and took around 80 (i guess that seems light, maybe looking more at 150, I don't know. I don't seem to pay attention to stats a lot, 3 succesful GC's, 4 bombings, and CM's) infra. He bought 20+ planes and the infra back, swapped his improvements out etc. That is thorough preparation for war. I feel that the move we made was about accurate to what happened regardless of the combined NS makeup.

[quote name='Wabooz' timestamp='1294381699' post='2566977'] No it's about who is morally right and who is not. Get with the program [/quote] Ha, another body in the pile won't hurt right? Edit: I hate the fad of calling everyone out for crying. Nothing can be said without someone inevitably getting butt hurt over it. Hasn't anyone's parents ever taught them sticks and stones.

[quote name='Clash' timestamp='1294380642' post='2566936'] Self-fulfilling prophecy. He's the one who got you into where you are now. Quit listening to him and start [s]doing[/s] doing things on your own. [/quote] You mean into war? What's wrong with warring a lot. War isn't about who is right. It's about who is left.

Your missing Japan. Might as well make DR Japan rather than puppet states. Since they are here for there own reasons. Edit: Actually I cancel that, it'd fit better to have G-6 be a mix of Japan and Nazi Germany since we previously attacked Warriors (America) and it is a reason of theirs to join the war I also read the disclaimer of European and cancel all statements

I prefer the rape and pillage before the era your talking about. Do you guys by chance have a princess?

[quote name='Clash' timestamp='1294297012' post='2565555'] Go tell that to believeland. That guy really needs to get out more. [/quote] Don't really know him

[quote name='Clash' timestamp='1294294856' post='2565513'] Awww son, don't cry. Maybe your infra will grow back? [/quote] I'm merely a pawn. Similar to you. We share the same fate, but I'm not oblivious. This round has been one of the most active and interesting in a while. Forum activity, wars galore, IRC activity. All good has an evil. Or else nobody would truly fight. They would only be duels. Welcome to TE.

[quote name='Clash' timestamp='1294294099' post='2565496'] At least we weren't hiding behind any treaties, right? Not a ceasefire in sight... yet. [/quote] The whole idea of anything is to start war. It doesn't matter how it starts. Quit playing morals and close your mouth. You have just did everything you vowed you would never do. To me, this is progress for the new age of TE.

Best round ever.

Best round ever.

[quote name='lookoot' timestamp='1294237263' post='2564365'] ah everythings clear now ,it looks like G6,RE,TPC and DR have joined forces this round ,the rest of us have to be at there disposal for whenever they feel like a curbstomp or playing out some of there weasel moves i feel a lot better now knowing the rules this round ! the lunatics really are trying to take over the asylum [/quote] Your making me blush. Stop it

[quote name='Clash' timestamp='1294225688' post='2564278'] Confused, son of the [url="http://www.fallacyfiles.org/strawman.html"]straw man[/url]. LE can take care of themselves really, though I think if we add up the NS it's probably well stacked against them. That's the only way you and the Confusionettes like dogbite and Adude know how to fight these days. It was hitting THP, an alliance already at war for several days now, that was the real weasel move. That was a TOTAL attempt for the curbstomp, that's all it was. Just as your toys over at RE and them hitting DF was equally cheap and classless - and probably a cross-round payback move for DF hitting them last round. Ironic (and hugely hypocritical) that you talk about LE not having been at war this round for your straw man rationalization - then orchestrating wars against alliances who are [u]currently[/u] at war. You boys sure do know how to hold onto them grudges, amirite? [/quote] You have a very large mouth.

[quote name='Vol Navy' timestamp='1294209533' post='2564154'] This is just treaty induced curb stomps. Aka all wars in SE. [/quote] If you quit trying to bridge the gap between SE and TE you wouldn't have these problems.

[quote name='Vol Navy' timestamp='1294208927' post='2564137'] Nope, not luck, just the end of TE's consequence free, even wars for fun as it's now officially SE. [/quote] Pure chaos does not relate to SE.

[quote name='Clash' timestamp='1294126090' post='2562861'] This is the punk part. [/quote] We're all rebels at heart

[quote name='lookoot' timestamp='1294048702' post='2561796'] why should they be protected ? [/quote] [quote]No, they're old friends, and we're willing to go bat for them. There isn't much to it, really. Confusion.[/quote]

[quote name='Machanidas' timestamp='1293943918' post='2560557'] commander chew of Hillshire skimmed over his inbox too http://tournament.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=1000870 [/quote] He's 0 days seniority in the alliance.