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[quote name='Matthew PK' date='06 April 2010 - 08:35 PM' timestamp='1270604120' post='2251023'] I intend to continue fighting IRON/DAWN as soon as there are nations in my range. I will do so, or be ready to do so, until they surrender or the matter is otherwise resolved. [/quote] I might be wrong, but I believe his question was what will you do to IRON and DAWN [i]after[/i] they surrender.

[quote name='fallin' date='05 April 2010 - 10:06 AM' timestamp='1270479995' post='2249111'] Pardon my ignorance, but could you clarify what you're trying to imply with the picture above? [/quote] [OOC]I think that is Neville Chamberlain, the British Prime Minister at the start of World War II known for his policy of appeasement.[/OOC] Edit: Added OOC tags.

[quote name='Lennox' date='02 April 2010 - 10:04 AM' timestamp='1270220648' post='2245357'] This is an even bigger dick move than Sparta demanding 15k tech. [/quote] I personally have been very unhappy with the reps we demanded. I have been vocal on our forum against taking any reps from TOOL, Legion and TOP. Alas, I seem to be in the extreme minority in Sparta when it comes to reps. Anyway, this thread is not about Sparta, but Gramlins, and we should not derail it any further.

[quote name='Lusitan' date='02 April 2010 - 09:47 AM' timestamp='1270219660' post='2245341'] Well, they were asking around 5k tech if I recall. Then the terms were pulled back because they did not reflect the reality anymore, or so was said. Considering nukes were still be exchanged, I can only see the number going up. [/quote] Extending the length of the war by yanking out an already agreed to proposal and then demanding more reps due to the increased length of the conflict is a jerk move. Especially considering that Gramlins have suffered minimal damage in this last phase of the war.

[quote name='Tick1' date='11 March 2010 - 10:03 AM' timestamp='1268323750' post='2222156'] I haven't personally read this whole entire thread seeing as I just noticed it about 10 minutes ago, but quite frankly I don't see how you can claim that SBA is treated to you when the holy admin doesn't recognize alliance acronyms. Therefor since Echelon is not allied to the alliance SBA they should have no problem with us raiding them. Echelons ally is stated as Spacebattle Alliance within their treaty, which is not the alliance that Poison Clan has raided. Yes this is a loop-whole in the political system, I also can careless about the alliance that we've raided. So please have your so called treaty partners switch their alliance affiliation to the proper name or they will continue to get raided. [/quote] By your logic none of FCC's or LoSS's treaties count because their members fly acronyms in their AA's. Yet, I somehow doubt you would be using this argument if you accidentally tech raided one of their nations.

Ivan, I'm curious, because even after reading all this I'm still not sure what the main issues are, if you were offered the following peace proposal: - NSO agrees not to re-enter the conflict or aid any alliance for the duration of the conflict No beer review, just a written guarantee to stay out for the rest of the war. Would you accept? Why, or why not?

[quote name='Ejayrazz' date='24 February 2010 - 08:47 PM' timestamp='1267066281' post='2202437'] Sorry to bring up old arguments, I am tying this all together without instantly jumping the gun, but did or did not Moldavi and Fark come to an agreement? Cause I see they did, and Ivan is stating in post 101 he was never offered white peace? [/quote] I guess the answer to that would depend on which definition of 'white peace' you use.

[quote name='Killer Monkey land' date='19 February 2010 - 10:24 PM' timestamp='1266639898' post='2192936'] You really think Zenith and OG are doing so well that this little cease fire will turn the tide? [/quote] I think it's the principle of the matter that counts.

[quote name='Killer Monkey land' date='19 February 2010 - 10:07 PM' timestamp='1266638854' post='2192908'] I do believe you, I just think it is a crappy way to bully the membership to accept the peace terms. [/quote] It's not bullying since Zenith could have easily foregone the ceasefire and did a vote during open war. I'm sure a rejection of peace during a time of open hostilities would have earned them no additional ire from the Gramlins, Fark and FH. If Zenith truly and earnestly wishes to end this war as soon as possible then the ceasefire is for their benefit, as they don't have to suffer 48 hours of losses while adhering to their charter. Gramlins simply want to make sure this is not some sort of ploy by Zenith to stall the war while they recuperate.

[quote name='Chief Savage Man' date='12 February 2010 - 12:04 AM' timestamp='1265954684' post='2177031'] Sparta wouldn't have posted the sigs if it didn't seem clear to them that they had accepted the terms. After all, as we can see here, all it takes is one post for the party who disagrees to clarify the issue. There is no motive and no reason for this supposed crime. [/quote] Finally somebody posted something sensible. I'm surprised it only took 11 pages.

It's Polish, roughly translated it means: "Where there is unity there is also strength".

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