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[quote name='sammykhalifa' timestamp='1330614779' post='2931280'] Did they go into Peace Mode because of the war against the Mongols? [/quote] I believe all the Kaskus PM nations went into PM within the last 2-4 days. Our guys? Not so much.

[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1330611250' post='2931234'] Always the opportunists. [/quote] It´s like you´ve never tried to fight us multiple times, always with the same outcome.

[quote name='Lord Caparo' timestamp='1330610983' post='2931228'] Latest news in, Kaskus finds Sardonic to be the only true speaker of GOONs, we find talking to Sardonic to be a very nice experience and therefore anything said by any other GOONs member wont be seen as the truth. [/quote] I would make some snide comment about how you say this from peace mode, but that seems SO cliche.

In other news, Kaskus manages a staggering 3 offensive declarations within the first 30 minutes of war.

[quote name='Timberland' timestamp='1330610135' post='2931219'] So i've been told I am, tell Indra Saputra to declare on me [/quote] Oooh! Oooh! On me too please!

[quote name='Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz' timestamp='1296130849' post='2605405'] Come get some [/quote] This. Seriously.. there are many of us in GOONS who are sitting here with only offensive slots used... right in the middle of your "strategic range"... Where´s the love? Come on already!

[quote name='Clash' timestamp='1285764215' post='2468207'] THEY. PICKED. THE. FIGHT.(/ooc) [/quote] There´s a very very big difference between discussing the issues on the OWF and declearing war on someone.

So tell me Kulomascovia... Is it the official oppinion of well known anti-raiding alliance Celestial Being that secretly aiding Nuclear rogues in full on raiding rogue mode is A-OK? Or is it just your personal oppinion as a "moralist" that the end justifies the means and that might makes right. As long as the rogues are hitting GOONS of course. Some "moralist".

[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1285029012' post='2459387'] I do rule a nation which embodies Libertarian principles, which was a nice observation on your part, just as your alliance embodies the principles of Sadism and Oppression was an observation on my part. So this is a fight between libertarian principles and your principles, with the two being incompatable. That's what this war seems to be about. [/quote] Huh, I could´ve sworn that this war was caused by that smaller guy that shares your "AA" declearing 3 offensive wars on GOONS nations followed by diplomacy on our part, to which you responded with 3 more offensive wars... Then again, I guess this kind of after the fact manipulation of history is only what we could expect from the notoriously bad rogue Methrage. Oh, and you might have won every singly air attack, but what good is that if we get money from you to rebuild every time we win a GA on you, or you loose one.

[quote name='Tautology' timestamp='1285021836' post='2459249'] If you don't personally like raiding or a good friend of yours tells you it's wrong, I recommend you consider it wrong. If you personally like raiding or a good friend of yours tells you it's right, I recommend you consider it right. If you don't fall into either of these categories, I don't recommend you take a moral standpoint. [/quote] But Tautology, what if both A [b]AND[/b] B apply? How will I ever choose between my friends then?

[quote name='Haquertal' timestamp='1285017892' post='2459184'] Quick question, if you are against aggression, then why exactly did you declare offensive wars against GOONS? On the topic of raiding, why exactly does any alliance care what any other alliance does? If tech raiders aren't hitting your alliance, you shouldn't care. [/quote] He actually edited that in. By his standards, any nation that performs "an unjustified initiation of aggression against another nation" can be attacked without needing any reason other than keeping said nation down.

[quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1283897763' post='2445765'] Using nukes offensively in tech raiding isn't something to be "discouraged" like using bombers, it's something that should be such a matter of common sense it shouldn't require a ban [b]because no one should ever do it[/b]. [/quote] Excuse me for questioning the bold, but why not? I mean, I can see the downside of doing it.. you kill off all his troops with it and he doesn´t rebuy so you can´t take more tech from him. But I´m guessing that that was not what you had in mind, so please tell me: Why not? [quote name='KingMinornut' timestamp='1283899687' post='2445801'] And where was the mighty black senator when goons were raiding black on black? [/quote] Same place he always is. Protecting the actual alliances from harm by sanctioning rogues, nuclear or not. You know... like you guys.

[quote name='acrux' timestamp='1283800020' post='2444171'] Not reading all this garbage, but did you just DoW a Tech Raid (big picture here) against yourself? [/quote] (Pretty much, but don´t tell them... they might wise up and try to run away)

In all the nations of the Order we salute these brave men who protect our skies! And it is not just in Taanstafl that we fight. In Carameli, brave pilots shot down 16 enemy bombers and 3 escort fighters earlier this evening. Truly, we are the masters of the sky!

Tbh, I wouldn´t mind them gaining some treaties and friends and whatnot. That just means that when they´re finally done and are begging for mercy... well we´ll have such a better time then.

[quote name='JT Jag' timestamp='1283793740' post='2444001'] As for the sanction debate, sanctioning is a function designed to hinder the attempts of dangerous nuclear rogue nations. "Nuclear rogues" are countries whose sole purpose in existing is to attack other countries, particularly select groups of countries or alliances, with nuclear weapons and with no concern for any retaliation and no attempt to solve the problem they have via diplomacy. Using these two definitions, the sanction of UOKMB is justified. Even if they are an "alliance", they are an alliance of nuclear rogues and have been sanctioned properly. It'll be fun to see you guys ground under our heel. <3 [/quote] Well said. If only more people would pay attention to this.

[quote name='Haflinger' timestamp='1283790188' post='2443894'] So what are they then, if not an alliance? Eight completely unrelated nations, one of which got nuked by GOONS first and will presumably get sanctioned on Black for retaliating? [/quote] Why, rogue nations of course. Rogue nations armed with nuclear weapons even.

[quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1283788531' post='2443864'] More sanctions? If so, you should be aware that a fair number of alliances consider an 8 nation alliance a "true" alliance, and not a rogue anything. Have fun explaining it. FYI: I don't think that UOKMB has a snow ball's chance in hell. It's another silly waste of resources going after GOONS in this manner. [/quote] Really ChairmanHal, why should Xavii have to explain anything because of someone elses standards? All that matters in this case, are the standards of Umbrella.

[quote name='KingMinornut' timestamp='1283787949' post='2443852'] You think we actually care about the end result? [/quote] From the way you shed delicious tears about the way we choose to wage war? Yeah, I kinda do.

[quote name='Locke426' date='05 July 2010 - 07:52 PM' timestamp='1278355912' post='2360410'] You're late. He was given $9mil in aid. All battles have expired or peaced out. And he's not even on the black sphere; he's on green. [/quote] Clearly he is in the early stages of the Blackening.

It seems like only yesterday we were posting our 2m growth post. Congratulations to GOONS and Umar! (And the other new govs)

[quote name='KOwens06' date='04 July 2010 - 08:37 PM' timestamp='1278272257' post='2359596'] Just go on IRC and go to any TE room except SF's and BC's and ask them how TE should be played. You will get the same answer as my post. [/quote] Ah, so what you mean is that certain alliances have arbitrarily decided how TE should be played. Well, why didn´t you just say so.

[quote name='lazaraus45' date='04 July 2010 - 08:30 PM' timestamp='1278271805' post='2359589'] could you link me to the this topic? [/quote] I was just thinking the exact same thing. Also, please link to a definition of a "fair fight", since you´re so adamant about wanting one.

Yay! Allies! Congrats to both of our alliances!

We saw that, but we can only hope that we can get some slots after OP tire of them. And then they´ll be in perfect range for new joiners or rerollers