silentkiller

[quote name='Kyaris' timestamp='1300419451' post='2668702'] First you come out of peace mode... I wager after a day or two you'll be in range of me. [/quote] Doubt it. Most of my strength is in tech which is hard to destroy And we should probably stop derailing the thread.

[quote name='Kyaris' timestamp='1300419214' post='2668698'] Two days. Minimum cycle time for PM. See you soon. [/quote] As soon as I figure out how to get in range.

[quote name='Kyaris' timestamp='1300418661' post='2668691'] The greatest selling point we have for getting newcomers to venture to digiterra and join our alliance is that their nations, in their infancy, get to grind ancient nations into dust. It's what brought me, and I got delivered what I was promised. [/quote] I really have no idea why you think GOONS attractiveness to new recruits has anything to do with viability of turtling as a war tactic. In any case I am sure I'll be seeing you in a week or two. Keep a slot open

[quote name='Kyaris' timestamp='1300415861' post='2668640'] No, see, what I'm pointing out for everyone reading is that you're losing those wars. Badly. You're turtling up and dropping the occasional nuke, the same thing every single NPO does in war because they don't know how to fight. [/quote] Tell me you are joking. Please? Edit: nvm saw your nation creation date. Carry on.

Apology accepted.

lol what a PR stunt

Thank you for telling us how we feel master.

joke thread? :S

[quote name='Lamuella' timestamp='1299250985' post='2652456'] so now "what someone says they saw" is equivalent to "facts"? All right: I saw silentkiller crying in a corner and stabbing himself in the leg with a salad fork. Hey, it's a fact, I said I saw it. [/quote] And here I thought I hid myself pretty well while doing it

[quote name='goldielax25' timestamp='1299247684' post='2652429'] Your warchests for top nations are pretty pathetic, not surprised they were so quick to heed the call to peace mode. [/quote] Love statements without any actual backing by facts. Also lolpeacemode

[quote name='flak attack' timestamp='1299245778' post='2652413'] If you want to try and make up for them entering the war, I suggest bringing your own alliance into it. You might want to watch your own house there. I fought an ~85k/15k infra NPO nation with only about 250m in the bank. [/quote] Every FAN I have come across save for one has had a terrible warchest. The one nation who did have a decent warchest probably ignored orders to buy a MP at 1kns

With the terrible war chests FAN has I am not surprised they needed help. Two of their starting top 10 having <500mil in the first week of war? Pathetic.

More casualties for me Good Luck with the rebuilding guys and know that your help in this conflict was appreciated. o/

No quotes from Cortath? Garbage.

[quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1297723496' post='2633472'] I'm going to bribe Gandroff to order you into PM for the rest of the war so I can catch up. [/quote] You better not come out of peace mode. Seriously.

[quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1297709181' post='2633122'] Yes. You're going to lose, so you're going to surrender. That's how war works. The terms won't necessarily involve a 'pay-off', though I imagine they probably will unless you want to get beaten down so far that you're fighting a FAN-style resistance. [/quote] Anything that helps me get casualties is good in my book!

[quote name='kwell' timestamp='1297369583' post='2628228'] As Allies of NPO come to her defense, while NPO's top 74 nations hide in peace mode. Friends don't hide in in pm when their allies are fighting for them. There is no strategy in this cowardly tactic. This is tossing allies into the flame to watch them burn. NPO, consider yourself lucky that your allies came to your aid, hopefully they have seen your true character this time around. Who needs enemies when you they have friends who will toss them into the flames to save your own skin? This is the difference between the new hegemony and the old hegemony: the new hegemony values its allies and has burned for them time after time while the old hegemony was in power. NPO's past actions have driven them into this political landscape. Don't pity them for they deserve this. What I fail to understand is why NPO's allies let their upper tier suffer the wraith of the combined forces DH, CnG, among others when NPO is hiding every nation above 39,500 ns in pm. This shows that NPO values its allies as meat shields who they can toss into the flames as they sit back in pm. I argue that they should be held to the same standard as they held Fan: 2 years of war. If memory serves me correctly, NPO told fan that every nation must fight 2 rounds before peace can be discussed (or something to that affect). FAN spent over two years while you held them captive. I proclaim why shouldn't NPO be held to their standard that they set? Bullies become bullied. Its time to come out and play, your allies have taken enough damage in your defense as you sit back and watch. Face the consequences of your past. Your past reflects your present and your future. Coming out of pm is the first step. Time to prove to your allies you aren't just using them. **My opinions are my own opinions, not Umbrella or Dh. Have a problem with what I have said, I have 3 defensive slots available, take your pick. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT : D [/quote] You can always sell your infra if you want war. As to Peacemode, Make us

[quote name='Zero-One' timestamp='1297026109' post='2622611'] Where did you get that? NPO were chomping at the bit to jump in as soon as the conditions are favorable to them. You would be a damn fool if you thought NPO were sitting innocently in the corner signing kumbayah. Spare us the dribble. [/quote] I thought we were getting attacked because we were being opportunistic cowards who were going to avoid the war?

[quote name='Azaghul' timestamp='1297023811' post='2622535'] Not had a constant of propaganda against us and our allies? Not allied others hostile to us?[/quote] Sir Paul's tabloids are as official as MK's sigs on our reps. [quote]Where did you get that from? Nothing in Archon's declaration of war contradicts my points here.[/quote] Was what Archon posted the main reason for war or not? You don't seem to think so. One of you is a liar. [quote]Can I read his mind? No. But the actions of NPO say plenty. Allying people hostile to us. Creating a constant stream of propaganda against us. It was very obvious to everyone that you were opposed to us. [/quote] Yeah why did we ally ourselves with alliances that stood with us during Karma war. The horror! And we tried building relationships with "non-hostile" alliances but their masters/treaty partners would have none of it.

[quote name='Azaghul' timestamp='1297021847' post='2622497'] Just because something isn't in the DoW doesn't make it false.[/quote] So Archon's op was basically a lie to hide the real intentions for the war. K [quote]As Mr. Muz said, GPA is neutral to the core and never has and never will be a threat to any alliance. On the contrary NPO is very much not neutral, brags about getting revenge in the past, and clearly had us in their sights. [/quote] I love how everyone is able to mind read Cortath these days.

[quote name='Lamuella' timestamp='1297021837' post='2622496'] wow, you really are skipping around from point to point on this, aren't you? I was talking about the treaty between =LOST= and GOONS. You know, the one I wrote and the one you're presuming to interpret. [/quote] Yeah allright. http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=98284&view=findpost&p=2622379 I love how you ignored the DOOMhouse article though.

[quote name='Jocko Homo' timestamp='1297021474' post='2622481'] You guys already tried that remember? Oh yeah, I forgot, you always try to rewrite history in your favor so I guess you have to act like you didn't do that. [/quote] Yeah man totally. [quote name='MrMuz' timestamp='1297021494' post='2622483'] Don't drag GPA's name into this. They're clear neutrals, they've always been neutral and always will be. They have never ever attacked any alliance that didn't rogue them and they don't have a single defense treaty with anyone. It's different from non-neutral alliances which may dodge a war today but attack in a different war next year. Argue with other points if you like, but a neutral alliance can't be accused of opportunism. [/quote] I love how the party line has changed from "they were going to attack sooner or later!!" to "they were not going to take part in the war"

[quote]Sorry, but that doesn't follow. The Treaty of the Purple Star says "Should one signatory alliance come under attack, it is the obligation of the other alliance to come to their aid militarily", not "Should one signatory alliance come under attack, the other should consider itself to also be under attack".[/quote] Article 3: MY HAPPY HOUSE If one of the signatories is directly attacked, the other two are obligated to defend them, unless the defense comes as a result of a chaining obligation. If one of the signatories is attacking aggressively, the others have the ability to join in too. From DOOMHOUSE treaty. MK/Umbrella/GOONS have been claiming that an attack on one of them is an attack on all three. So I guess the same principle works with our Legion treaty? [quote]if you mean that seriously, thank you. If you mean that sarcastically, thank you. [/quote] Yes I was serious, considering it is much better than mine

[quote name='Azaghul' timestamp='1297020839' post='2622458'] Conquer and destroy we shall! Two points: - We wanted a war, that was the main reason for entering. - This would have been the 2nd or 3rd war NPO avoided entering because things weren't stacked in their favor. This strike stopped that. We stopped your clear opportunism. [/quote] - Someone forgot to tell Archon apparently. - Lets kill GPA someday shall we? Those opportunist cowards!

[quote name='Hombre de Murcielago' timestamp='1297017446' post='2622374'] You seem unable to get beyond your fundamental misunderstanding of how treaties work. We were quite obligated to help GOONS when they were attacked. [b]Perhaps your wrongly assume that there is a "non-chaining" clause on this treaty?[/b] Your whole "forced" argument is ridiculous. I'll agree with your steadfast commitment to free will in that no one can "force" you to do anything. However, under the wording of our treaty, and the mutual understanding of intent with which it was signed, =LOST= was very much required by the laws of that treaty to enter on this front. [/quote] Chaining has nothing to do with this. Chaining would be a concern if say GOONS was defending/attacking someone due to one of their treaties. But eh whatever you think you were obligated to enter then so be it. Have fun with the war I am sure the Legion members will.