Vesalius

What do you think will be the eventual cause of the next major war? What sort of internal programs does the Corp have going? Were you to pick one alliance to really get to know better, who would that be? How are the general activity levels? Also, I'm liking the new flag, and the new sphere.

Very nice. You've found yourself some rather amazing allies their ARES, congratulations.

[quote name='SpectreTehDestroyer' date='09 June 2010 - 11:14 AM' timestamp='1276100027' post='2330233'] Well congratulations on your existance, but why would you pursue a protector like Kronos? Good luck. [/quote] This is most definitely not the place for your petty insults, take them elsewhere. Congratulations Mayzie, I'm loving this more and more everyday. You have a lot of potential with this.

Congratulations guys, and very good show to Val.

Absolutely not. If someone is attacking my member, I'm going to have them trashed. In the mean time, I'll find out what originated the attack and why it is happening, and deal with it appropriately. One of the biggest purposes of an alliance is joint military protection. You attack a member of Kronos, you will not leave the ordeal in tact. Period.

Admiral Ackbar came to mind as soon as I read the OP. This has provided me with much lulz, good show and good luck.

[quote name='Lord Curzon' date='23 May 2010 - 06:32 PM' timestamp='1274657510' post='2309593'] Hopefully [i]time [/i]will cement your relationship even further. (You see what I did there Vesa?!). Congrats guys, and good luck to you both. Kronos are a great bunch. [/quote] I do see. I DO. Thank you all for the well wishes. VE is a great group, it's about time we finally rolled this out.

[center][img]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100126180044/cybernations/images/6/6d/VEflag.png[/img][/center][center][img]http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z310/Snowbeast21/Kronosflagdark.jpg[/img][/center] [center][quote] 1. Sovereignty Kronos and the Viridian Entente are sovereign alliances. Both signatories recognize such and agree not to infringe upon the other’s sovereignty. 2. Mutual Defense If one signatory is attacked, the other will defend them as if it were an attack on them. This clause is optional if those attacks are a result of chaining treaties. 3. Optional Aggression If one signatory wishes to launch an attack or any sort of aggressive action against another alliance, then the other is encouraged but not required to join them. 4. Intelligence If either signatory becomes aware of information that could be of benefit to the well being of the other signatory, they are obliged to divulge it. 5. We’re Friends. No Really. Though verbal and written insults may be encouraged and occasionally relished, the signatories agree not to partake in aggressive actions towards each other. This does not include consensual sparring. <3 6. Cancellation If we decide we hate each other while this treaty is still active, then the canceling signatory is required to provide 48 hours of prior notice before the treaty is considered null and void. This will be followed by a period of petty insults aimed at the degradation of each other’s dignity, followed by “remedial relations.” [/quote][/center] For the Viridian Entente: [img]http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r160/qinqe/VE/AS6veGreatSeal.gif[/img] [i]Impero[/i], Lord of the Entente [i]Solaris[/i], Duke of the Entente [i]TypoNinja[/i], Secretary of State [i]Goldielax25[/i], Secretary of Defense [i]Audran[/i], Secretary of the Interior [i]Kayvaan Shrike[/i], Secretary of Economics For Kronos: [i]Noj[/i], Patriarch [i]Vesalius[/i], Harbinger of Light [i]Lazarus Long[/i], Harbinger of War [i]De Caelo[/i], Harbinger of Prosperity

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='18 May 2010 - 09:34 PM' timestamp='1274236430' post='2302799'] [color="#0000FF"]Just because an alliance can do something does not mean it is acceptable, just, and tolerable. PZI is one thing that the NSO does not do, nor do I see us ever condoning it.[/color] [color="#0000FF"]That is the definition of PZI. [b]War until peace is achieved.[/b] And often it won't be easy to get. So yes, you can skirt around it all you like, but your EoG list is essentially a PZI list. OOC: Writing a four act play about pedophilia and drug abuse was the term you gave to Methrage. Seriously, what kind of self-respecting person would take that term?[/color] [/quote] Perhaps you could define warfare for us then? I was under the impression that "war until peace is achieved" is the general idea behind all warfare, but this obviously proves me utterly wrong.

[quote name='Scorponok' date='17 May 2010 - 01:21 PM' timestamp='1274120443' post='2301345'] Hows this then? [url=http://j.imagehost.org/view/0343/anothergo_edited-1][img]http://j.imagehost.org/0343/anothergo_edited-1.png[/img][/url] [/quote] Mayzie: Use this one. >_>

Either alliance has a valid CB on the other at this point, it really doesn't matter. If there's anything this situation has shown, it's that the government of both ERA and TSP are utterly incompetent. I'd actually love to see them declare on each other, so we may have a shining example of how not to wage war. Or, perhaps, you should both declare on your own respective alliances. Your efforts might be more productive that way. It would certainly be more entertaining.

[quote name='shadeslayers09' date='16 May 2010 - 10:00 PM' timestamp='1274065209' post='2300844'] -snip- [/quote] There goes any sympathy for your cause. Not only did your government hand over the signatures (an act perceived as approval here), but it was a triumvir of your alliance. Congratulations, while exposing his further idiocy with the falsified logs you simultaneously destroyed any credibility your argument had.

What's that? 170 new tech sellers you say? I agree with this.

Congratulations to Avalanche, I have quite a bit of respect for you. This is a great step forward.

Looks like ERA has some quality leadership there, only genius could make remarks such as Andover did. Good luck.

Good decision. Ragnarok will be better in the long run because of it.

My god, this is hilarious.

[quote name='white majik' date='23 April 2010 - 01:04 PM' timestamp='1272045824' post='2272164'] Wow.... Its really been a year. Even though most (I see you DC and Laz) of the founders arent around any more, I know Kronos will thrive. Ves, you have really came into your own over the past 6 months and you have done Kronos so much good. Ill be awaiting our second bday o/ Kronos <3 [/quote] Thanks Whitey. Go nuke something for me.

Aye, Hera is much more frightening. I would like to personally thank everyone for the well-wishes, we've already made a significant difference in activity and we've barely gotten started. We have the ability, and we will commit the time. A special thanks to Umbrella as well, they have been there for us from the very beginning and I could not be more proud to call them my close friends. The same goes for Valhalla and GOD, they are excellent allies and excellent friends. Kronos will grow again. Or, as Noj said, we'll just nuke everything in sight. I'm looking forward to either path. Lonewolfe - I have a surprise for you.

[center][img]http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z310/Snowbeast21/Kronosflagdark.jpg[/img][/center] Over the last few months, Kronos has been through some rough times. We’ve lost many a good member, and have been on a decline in that sense for quite a while. Most of the founders have moved on, whether to different alliances or to other callings elsewhere, leaving the alliance in good standing but as a lover who has been away on a very long trip and is no longer the same. It is high time we take a stand, and reverse this downward spiral before it is too late to save this community that we have all put so much of ourselves into. As a result, we have passed reforms to our charter that streamlines our government, and facilitates our ability to carry out the internal programs necessary to begin growth and fight stagnation. Our charter is now as follows: [quote] [center][size="3"]Charter of Kronos[/size][/center] Preamble: We, the founders of Kronos, hereby forge this charter to serve as a guide to our future generations. We create this document so that they may know our intent and understand our principles. May they forever remember that we came together, as equal nations, and created this bond to promote prosperity, brotherhood, strength, and sovereignty. Article I: Application & Membership Any ruler may apply for membership to Kronos, so long as said ruler has released his pledge to any and all former alliances and is not currently engaged in wars with, or condemned to ZI by, an alliance. Clause I: Process To apply for membership to Kronos, a nation's ruler must present himself to the official forums of the alliance, located at "http://www.cn-kronos.com/". Upon arrival, ruler must fill out the proper documentation, as specified, and present it for review. Ruler must then present himself to the official IRC channel of the alliance, located at "#Kronos", and speak with a designated government official, notifying them of his intent. Upon review, the government will determine whether or not said ruler meets the alliances initial requirements, as listed below, and either approve or deny the initial application. If the application is approved, the ruler will be given an applicant mask on our forums and begin an interview process to last no longer than 7 days. This interview will be conducted by the general membership of the alliance as well as by the government, and is to serve as a method to better understand the applicant?s intelligence, motives, passion, maturity, and history. At the end of the interview process, the general membership will be convened to vote on the applicant's eligibility. If said applicant receives a super majority vote, defined as greater than sixty-six percent, in their favor, their application will be approved and they will be masked as an initiate of the alliance, allowing them access to all benefits that come with said position. Upon joining Kronos, applicant agrees to follow the ideals and policies set forth by this charter and by that of the government, and understands he is releasing partial sovereignty of his nation to the alliance for the better good of the alliance as a whole. Clause II: Requirements All applicants must meet the following requirements as determined by the alliance: • High level of activity on IRC • High level of activity on the Forum • High level of maturity • High level of intellect • High level of passion In addition, said applicant must also successfully pass a thorough background check to be conducted by the Harbinger of Prosperity. Clause III: Membership Ranks Kronos will use the following ranks to establish it?s memberships hierarchy: • Patriarch The elected leader of Kronos. The Patriarch has supreme power over all matters not specifically allocated elsewhere by this document. • Ancient Consists of any ruler in the general membership of the alliance who is not a government official, but has served the alliance for a period greater than 60 days, has met and maintained the requirements of membership, and has been promoted by the Council. Those in this body are eligible for election or appointment to a government capacity, as designated in Article III of this charter. • Elder Consists of any ruler in the general membership of the alliance who has been promoted by consensus of the Council from the rank of Initiate. After having been in Kronos for a period of no less than 60 days, an Elder is eligible for promotion to the rank of Ancient. Those in this body are eligible for appointment to a government capacity, but are not eligible to run for election. • Initiate Consists of any ruler who has been accepted into Kronos having met all the requirements of membership and been approved by the general membership, but has not met the eligibility requirements to be promoted to Elder. An initiate may be promoted to Elder at any time once they have been accepted into the ranks of Kronos. Those in this body are not eligible for appointment to a government capacity, nor are they eligible to run for election. • Applicant Consists of any one not of the general membership who has petitioned an application for review by the council and is interviewing for membership to the alliance. Article II: Government Structure The government of Kronos shall consist of 3 main divisions, each serving the alliance in it?s own unique capacity, however shall work as one when needed. Each member of the government is allowed to staff his division as he sees fit, however these staff members hold no increased power in alliance decisions and are not members of the council. Clause I: Patriarch One member selected from the membership as described in Article III of this charter, that shall serve a term of 4 months. The Patriarch is responsible for the executive procedures involved in running the alliance, and is the final voice on all matters that are not specifically allocated elsewhere in this charter. These responsibilities include, but are not limited to the declaration of defensive wars, attending negotiations on the alliance’s behalf, the appointment and removal of the Harbingers, general management of the membership (including the demotion of members) and the acceptance of peace not involving reparations larger than 5% of alliance’s stock of the resource. An order given by the Patriarch that does not violate this charter must be followed in a timely manner. At any time, the Patriarch can be removed by a supermajority (67%) weighted vote of the membership, or by a unanimous vote of the Harbingers. Clause II: Harbinger of Light One member selected from the general membership by the Patriarch, serving until removed or until he feels he is no longer the most qualified for the position. The Harbinger of Light is responsible for all facets of foreign affairs that are not specifically allocated elsewhere by this charter. The Harbinger of Light has the power to appoint assistants at their discretion. The Harbinger of Light can be removed at any point by a supermajority (67%) weighted vote of the membership or by the Patriarch. Clause III: Harbinger of War One member selected from the general membership by the Patriarch, serving until removed or until he feels he is no longer the most qualified for the position. The Harbinger of War is responsible for all facets of the alliance military affairs that are not specifically allocated elsewhere by this charter. The Harbinger of War has the power to appoint assistants at their discretion. The Harbinger of War can be removed at any point by a supermajority (67%) weighted vote of the membership or by the Patriarch. Clause IV: Harbinger of Prosperity One member selected from the general membership by the Patriarch, serving until removed or until he feels he is no longer the most qualified for the position. The Harbinger of Prosperity is responsible for all facets of the alliance internal affairs that are not specifically allocated elsewhere by this charter. This includes but is not limited to the running of elections, aid programs, alliance tech deals, recruiting, training of new members, maintenance of nation guides, mass-messaging of alliance members, timely promotion of alliance members, and inter- and outer-alliance trade. The Harbinger of Prosperity has the power to appoint assistants at their discretion. The Harbinger of Prosperity can be removed at any point by a supermajority (67%) weighted vote of the membership or by the Patriarch. Clause V: The Membership The membership consists of all accepted members of the alliance. The membership is responsible for the upkeep of the community of Kronos, and is expected to participate in all votes unless prior notice of inactivity is given. Absence from three consecutive votes is grounds for demotion. A supermajority weighted vote of the membership is required for the removal of government members and the declaration of an offensive war. A majority (51%) weighted vote of the membership is required for acceptance of a new member and the signing of a treaty. Article III: Elections Elections are a vital part of the alliance, and are a way of giving a voice to all rulers who have pledged their nation to the alliance. Clause I: Weighted Votes For the purposes of all decisions that go to an alliance-wide vote, a weighted system will be used. The system shall be as follows: * Patriarch, Council, and Ancient: 2 votes per member * Elder: 1 vote per member * Initiate: 0 votes per member * Applicant: 0 votes per member Clause II: Timeline Each Patriarch will serve a 4 month term, as designated in Article II. One week prior to the end of the Patriarch’s term, the Harbinger of Prosperity shall open nominations for 48 hours, in which any Ancient member may notify the alliance of his intent to run for the Patriarch’s position. At the close of nominations, each candidate shall create a Candidacy Thread, where he will give his platform and answer questions from the general membership. After 48 hours from the opening of discussion, the Harbinger of Prosperity shall begin the election, allowing each ruler to cast his weighted vote for the candidate of his choice. The voting period shall last 48 hours, and upon closing, the weighted votes shall be counted and the winner announced. The next 24 hours shall be spent familiarizing the candidate with his new post, facilitating a seamless transition of power. Article IV: Founding Principles The following are hereby established as the values of the alliance henceforth. Clause I: We are Family Family fights, family protects, family nurtures. We promote open and honest discussion inside our walls and encourage our members to voice their opinion in an open and constructive manner. However, when a discussion has ended, we will move on and have a beer together. Clause II: We are Courteous We understand that those outside our family are to be treated with respect and in a courteous manner. While we may not agree on a topic, we will maintain a high level of professionalism and not insult, berate, or troll - ally or enemy. Clause III: We are Sovereign At no point in time will we succumb to pressure or control from any outside force. Any attempt to violate our sovereignty will be seen as an act of war and will be handled as such. Clause IV: We are Forgiving We do not believe in the issuance of any form of permanent or eternal ZI Clause V: We are United An attack on any ruler?s nation in the general membership of the alliance is considered an attack upon our alliance as a whole, and will be treated as such. Any attack upon our alliance is considered a threat to our sovereignty and will result in the launching of nuclear weapons at our discretion. Clause VI: We are Reserved While we will allow our general membership to tech-raid if they so choose, they are not to raid any member of another alliance that consists of more than 15 members, or any alliance with 15 or less members that is under a protectorate. Any ruler in our general membership who chooses to raid, understands he does so at his own risk and we are not obligated to protect him should he bite off more than he can chew. Clause VII: We are Disciplined Each member, by joining the alliance, agrees to follow and honor this charter above all else. Each will follow the orders of his leaders and follow proper procedures when presented with a conflict or problem. Claue VIII: We are Guided Our morals act as our compass and will guide us as we navigate the future. Our leaders, at no time, should compromise the principles of the alliance, as doing so will be considered treason. Clause IX: We are Fair In times of peace and in times of war, we value an ethic of reciprocity. As such, we shall not violate the sovereignty of any alliance by imposition of governing influence or of any standard requiring the cancellation of treaties or the destruction of wonders or improvements. Article V: Amendments & Addendums Any nation's ruler, of the general membership, may propose an amendment or addendum to the charter for discussion by the alliance. If, after lengthy discussion, the alliance views it as a favorable addendum, it will go to an alliance wide super-majority vote. If the addendum is passed, the council shall add it to the charter. Article VI: Mergers and Disbandment At any point, should the alliance come to a point where it, as a whole, is considering to merge or disband, it shall go to a super-majority vote before the entire alliance, using the weighted system. [/quote] We have concluded our first elections under this charter, and our current government is as follows: [center]Patriarch: Noj Harbingers of Light: Vesalius Harbinger of War: Lazarus Long Harbinger of Prosperity: De Caelo[/center] In the midst of all of the debating behind this reform, Kronos also passed it's one year mark of existence. As of April 08, 2010, Kronos is one year old. Setting aside the irony of a time-based alliance passing over it's own birthday, this is a monumental achievement. The first half of this year was an amazing time for Kronos. Following our involvement in the Karma war ( Umbrella, Valhalla), we experienced a prolonged period of activity and growth, culminating in the merger of our protectorate, Synergia, into our ranks. Following the departure of the members that would later make CoUNT and the events that ensued, Kronos began a steady decline in both statistical growth and community growth. The next few months saw the cancellation of a few treaties, and the inception of new friendships. After losing nearly all circulation in the BBW, we were rather... unpleasant to be around. Involvement in the Cluster**** War was, well... a cluster****. Now, with these changes, we will seek to reverse the internal stagnation brought on by the recent war and the departure of some close friends. We will grow to our former best, if not much, much better. To that, we give our word. Thank you to all of our friends and allies, we could not have made this landmark without your assistance. Your efforts have been noticed, and you know we'll always be behind you as mush as we possibly can. There shall be much rejoicing on our [url="http://www.cn-kronos.com"]forums[/url] and in our IRC channel (#kronos), to all those who wish to join us. Tl;dr - Charter reforms that streamline gov, new gov, and 1 year birthday.

I definitely want nothing to do with VE or Asgaard. Both full of pompous idiots.

Wait, what? I hope there is better reasoning behind this then some PR stunt. Good luck to you if there's been an incident.

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='16 April 2010 - 12:29 AM' timestamp='1271395732' post='2262361'] [color="#0000FF"]The Citadel is a recognized alliance. Also, GOONS started the war. He fought back. This is a tech raid. Raiders are cowards and whine when the target fights back. So their coward friends (that's you, Umbrella) help them. If you can't handle the consequences don't raid.[/color] [/quote] Reading comprehension is generally considered a decent skill as well. Though imagination works well in its place.

[quote name='Methrage' date='16 April 2010 - 12:16 AM' timestamp='1271394960' post='2262324'] I'm not roguing them and I had less support in my war with GOONS until after they sanctioned me, now most feel they deserve whatever I do to them. [/quote] I have a feeling that most of those who have expressed that sentiment would have felt the same regardless of your roguery.

[quote name='Methrage' date='16 April 2010 - 12:11 AM' timestamp='1271394656' post='2262308'] lol, [b]I'm not whining[/b] but pointing out what has been done. Also a lot of people seem to support me that this use of sanction is wrong. [/quote] I would beg to differ. A lot a people seem to support the fact that you are rogueing GOONS, not that you have been improperly sanctioned.