CBray

[quote name='Peggy_Sue' timestamp='1284233113' post='2450046'] Shame on you, AlterEgo. Again. I am not classless enough to dump the log where I talked with a FEAR gov member and we agreed to treat it as an ODP ... FEAR was trying to help us in that regard. It was partly due to the fact that FEAR declared war on an MD-partner of ours ... ODN... thus breaking the FEAR-UPN treaty. You know nothing then take that and make an issue of it because you know most of the little boys that love to post their hatred on this forum will fall in line with you. [/quote] Could you tell / PM me the Gov member that you agreed this with, because all the current and former gov for the past couple of years have / had no idea that it was actually an ODP....

Trying to get someone to do your school homework for you? Shameless!

Congratulations to our allies at NATO! o7 Nato Keep on rocking

[quote name='Peggy_Sue' timestamp='1284048523' post='2447706']and FEAR and UPN have been treating the MDoAP as an ODP for quite a while now.[/quote] I'd just like to say I wasn't aware of this, I still considered it an MDoaP, perhaps UPN considered it a lesser treaty but I certainly didn't. Whilst we were ok with you sitting out due to conflicts of interest by having treaties on both sides had we been attacked and you had no treaty with the attacker we certainly wouldn't have been treating it as an ODP and I dare to say neither would UPN.

[quote name='xoindotnler' timestamp='1283978644' post='2446883'] I recommend to get a lock on your fridge, unless you like a empty fridge... [/quote] We always have fully stocked fridges with all kinds of beers, mainly European though, I insisted (Mutzig is the main Lager of choice)

I'd like to echo the statement given by Peggy Sue, although we may no longer have a legal tie on paper, we still consider them to be good friends and wish UPN all the best in the future. Don't be strangers Edit: Damn you Muddog, getting in there before me

[quote][b][u]FEAR the Organization Accords [/u][/b] [b]Article I: Sovereignty[/b] Both signatories recognize the sovereignty of the other signatory. Neither signatory shall intrude into the other signatory’s sovereignty. [b]Article II: Friendship[/b] Both signatories agree to not piss each other off, cause y’know, we’re supposed to be friends. If there are disagreements, they will be resolved in a gentlemanly fashion. Neither party shall condone acts of espionage or any other acts of hostility towards each other. [b]Article III: Intelligence[/b] Should either signatory receive information regarding the other signatory, they should share it. [b]Article IV: Defense[/b] If and when Organization XIII comes under attack, FEAR will give assistance in the form of, but not necessarily limited to, military support. Should FEAR come under attack, Organization XIII is encouraged to provide FEAR with support in the form of, but not necessarily limited to, military support. [b]Article V: Non aggression towards external entities.[/b] During the terms of this protectorate, Organization XIII agrees to not go to war unless attacked first. [b]Article VI: Aid & Trade[/b] Organization XIII shall give FEAR first preference in tech deals. Both signatories shall help each other in matters of Trade and Aid. [b]Article VII: Revision and cancellation[/b] Both signatories will review this treaty after 120 days, Should either signatory wish to cancel it before then, they must give 48 hours notice. If any clause of this treaty was violated, then it may be void immediately. Signed for FEAR; Grand Chancellor, CodArk2 Internal Chancellor, Mad Larkin External Chancellor, CBray Signed for Organization XIII; The Shadow, Muddog[/quote] Yeah so don't go raiding

Congratulations NEW, o7 I can't wait for the next fight alongside you guys!

It was an ODP not PIAT other than that still loving the daily updates.

o7 TNG o7 FEAR We can never have too many sexy parties!

Welcome to the best sphere on the planet Love all the new stuff o7 Paragon

[quote name='MConorDever' timestamp='1282754352' post='2430944'] But Seriously, 1,000 Players are dropping out of CN everyday and they're dropping out because there is no Fun or Action in CN, there's too much politics and rules People need to lightin' up and have a big war every few months ! [/quote] So there will be none of us left in 22 days? This makes me sad.

Congraulations to our Allies in Europa o7 Europa o/ VEN

What system you running? Is it definitely up to running it? Also what monitor are you using? Are you using a proper monitor or a HDTV?

ClashCityRocker and Mia stand out to me.

I downloaded it a few days ago just fine, and it is awesome for a free game! Lots of replay value.

I like this, I like it a lot. Keep them coming, it's a very good way to quickly check what's been going on during a busy day.

As I've always said, if anything is worth doing, then it's worth doing at the very last minute possible for added awesome

It was only 20k of tech, but after 3 months we'd paid about 7k, then got politely reminded that we had 1 month left (we were unaware of the deadline) so the past month has been a crazy dash for the finish line. I think we made it with a couple of hours to spare.

This is definitely worth the 40 mins it took to write An outstanding announcement Clash o7 I'd also like to echo the thanks to OsRavan and James I who have been most helpful throughout the process of rushing 13k worth of tech within a month or so.

This guy seems a lot like the 'Gov John Winthrop' we had the bad luck to have within FEAR for a while, he too got expelled from FEAR Did he constantly talk about matters of a sexual nature despite admitting to being only 14 or something of the like?

Congrats Europa o/

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1281135528' post='2403161'] [color="#0000FF"]I've been saying this since before it was cool, and I could care less if people think I am cruel for saying the truth. Having hundreds upon hundreds of alliances has entangled the treaty web beyond the ability of anyone to comprehend it, and has been stagnating and slowing political dynamics for years. Things were better back in 2006 and 2007 when there were fewer, and larger, alliances. Granted, this new one is not the sole cause, but they certainly are not helping. Each new alliance simply compounds our current problem. They would be doing this world a favor if they could just simply stop.[/color] [/quote] Maybe you have been, and like I said it wasn't aimed specifically at you (pretty sure I said that, meant to anyways, could've forgotten) but recently there seems to have been one heck of an increase in the old hands at this game shouting out new people and alliances because they want to try and make a go of it on their own. This alliance like many before it might not make it past a year, but then it might also be one of the larger alliances in a few years, you never know. Personally I'd let them screw up first, then tell them to disband, at least let them have a crack at the game. After all the game will be no fun when there's only one alliance here and 20 rulers because everyone else got a hostile reception.

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1281127550' post='2403049'] [color="#0000FF"]As much as I am sure this will blow your mind, Bob truly can survive without your alliance. So, why not spare yourselves months of wasted effort and just go back to where you came from?[/color] [/quote] I don't post on OWF often but I read most of the threads here, and I know it's the new cool thing in the play ground to hate all new alliances and tell them to go home because they're small and seemingly insignificant, but it's seriously beginning to grind my gears, and I'm sure it is with other people, all alliances have to start (or restart) somewhere, and sure some may only last for a few days, months or maybe make it to years, but give them a chance. Recently it's just been a mentality of "Oh hey here's a new alliance, lets destroy them here to keep CN for ourselves" whilst in the same breath complaining about how the number of nation rulers is diminishing. This isn't aimed just at you RV, I actually quite enjoy the majority of your posts, but seriously the whole "We hate new people / alliances / cookies" is seriously getting old, and fast.

That must have thrown a spanner in the works. Good luck to all the alliances involved.