Dr hairy Ballz

noooo less escalation, not more!

Yeah to me? I approve.

The wars over, I WON.

What the?... I don't even. He decided to buy 200 infra and lose the bet, over only one day? This is mind blowing to me. Where is the gentleman's honor? Where is the national pride? Where is mah money?!

I'm nobody please ignore all my threads and nonsense "research" which I have gathered. I went on a month long drinking binge and have finally got myself into treatment and am sobering up. B)

Next time please write out alliance names in full

Here is the deal, we are a TINY alliance. We ave no interest in playing this out anymore, don't feel the need to justify ourselves, and frankly you have twelve pages of this what more could we add to this discussion. By this point everyone has decided where they stand and dug in, our adding anything would only fuel this clown circus further. Not going to happen. But we appreciate your interest in Ordo Verde, PM me if you want to join our sexy alliance since obviously we are super important and bad $@! judging from all this!

Good god I am at a loss. Are you really that interested? GTFO mah alliance politics now please, ty. SRS BSNS: OV is not going to allow outside influence to affect our internal policy no matter what pressures are present. End of story on this one, you can keep talking but we will keep resolving, thanks.

NO! I went from saying if he desired it I am SURE he could have it. But he does not (you are referring to a long time ago) which is why elections were called immediately. I am not back peddling at all. I encourage you to re-read exactly what I have posted. And if you desire further clarification I am on #ov so come talk to me.

Sorry, also, what you are quoting is at least 6 months old. And yes, I can guarantee that from the data available.

Actually yes, Seth was Emperor during reconstruction, and freely gave up power after we could hold elections. He has acted honorably. I would not say that if I did not, from my experience, believe and have 100% confidence in him.

Is this joke? When are we all not drunk? srsly

The truth is, I can understand that point of view being outside of OV. But if OV were to merge, and again, IF, I would demand payment of OV's tech reps to all OV members only. And the other obvious point, my fight is for OV to remain OV. And OV members are free at all times to quit or join any alliance they desire. I love and will continue to love OV, but the reality is this: OV has had a helluva year and requires leadership. I think Sethb's heart lays in keeping OV its own entity, actually, I know he wants that. And I think if he were available and could help achieve that goal he would without hesitation, but the fact is shortly, he will not be. The other thing, if Seth wanted power OV is not where he would have come. Seth has had multiple legitimate opportunities to be an emperor or dictator and has ALWAYS turned it down at first mention. And I know from working with him intimately that he has no intentions of that, but again, you do have to take my word for it. Anyhow, I would like to move OV beyond this situation, to a bright future. -DHB

Well I am Gov., and while I have not been as active of late due to rl stuff, I do trust Sethb quite impeccably. Now, for disclosure I should say I have not had contact with Tito or Zenergy but I do wish to speak to them. There are a few things I can speak to tho: 1) Sethb had been a boisterous supporter of OV's sovereignty. 2) I believe Tito to be honorable. 3) Petar started this whole "argument" with the intention of restoring current gov to the ends that they hold elections. 4)As soon as the "coup" as you are calling it was effected elections were initiated immediately. I have read your argument that a "pro-VE" gov was to be installed, this is in fact no the case. I would, as a generalization, say that OV is pro-VE simply because of the support and help they have given us. And as a final note: To what ends would VE think it is a good idea to run OV, seriously, we are a tiny alliance with only a few members; do you see what they would gain from a puppet government because I do not. And I also don't think they would ever do that, but that is just me.

This issue should die, it is an internal matter. But I do appreciate all of your input on it.

I really don't think VE gives a !@#$ who runs OV. I believe they simply want to see OV stay afloat through this, and I for one am all for the resolution of it. Let's get this over with.

Well this is a strange turn of events to walk back in on.

I am LUKE FREAKING SKYWALKER!

orly? well, I see a new tangled web of crazy war coming.

Oh god, I can see where this is headed...

What kind of alliance is VE again? I might want in on some of that!

ORDO VERDE FORUMS You to can be as cool as we are, if you're hardcore enough!

ORLY? I have news for you sir.

Anyhow, I personally got my $@! kicked for quite a while until the other big alliances joined in the fight. Can't speak for anyone but myself: I was ready to be rolled if it came to that. The war was long and took vast sums of money to wage, factoring in the lost money and what each nation would have been able to do if the war had not occurred the reps seem in the area of reasonable. Oh well, this discussion is going to go around in circles forever. Nobody is going to change anyones mind on bob.

Maybe you were reading a different thread? Perhaps. I have yet to see ANY OV member complain about how much we lost, I do see NPO yelling about how much they have to pay us. And attempting to side track people by yelling "unfair" and other such bs. Bottom line, NPO lost. They get no say in how or what KARMA does with the agreed to surrender money. DHB OUT