(Cortath @ Jun 29 2009, 10:44 PM)
"Yes, that is precisely what I think.
What did you offer? You control nothing. Do you have an advanced war system? A vast and strong military? An advanced military intelligence system? A large and deep network of diplomats? Is it your orators and rhetoricians to win the hearts and minds? No. All I see are your attempts at pithy one-liners.
But you are correct, you offered more. A tool, although a very specialized tool. And I say that with a certain amount of respect. When you have a nail, a hammer is a darn good thing to have, but it's not good for much else. Your problem, personally, and what your alliance will have to face, is what to do when you're only a hammer and you soon find out that there was only one nail."
DHB:
"And we get to see NPO's fascist mindset once again, wonderful. Some people and alliances care for more than what you have proposed, I suggest you bite down hard and re-evaluate your alliances view of the world."
How exactly should I break this down for you...
Fascism - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
Then read what Cortath wrote.
Cortaths argument is that Seth has nothing to offer Karma militarily and therefore would be of no use and thus has no say in it.
My response points out the hard line thinking that you must be using to take that view and retorts that some (like OV) care for things far greater than the number of soldiers ones nation has.
Good to go now?