StalinsRevenge

Just like socialism and all the different kinds that exist in it, Vladimirism at that point is a new thought idea of Francoism

he is just speaking the truth don't stress to much over it, just another old system beloved by you guys that's dieing

apparently OK has might in smallness, like Jarheads

while it would be nice for something to help smaller nations... like making new nations perhaps start larger to fit in better with the times or more aid being able to be send, larger nations really should not be punished for getting big themselves.

Francoism promises Order and a place for nations to develop but in reality you have given up your freedom to stroke the ego of a cow, wait in line for tech and trades that never come, and assist allies in unjust wars that have even larger ego's then Pacifica itself. OOC: I guess they are a little similar

Its not that, Farkistans war machine is really just paper tanks and GI joes, thats why thy need allied assistance to take on this micro menace

Would be interesting to see real screens of the talks. Most larger alliance think they where being fair when they where really screaming threats and talking down to the party they had problems with.

I love the responses, and the OP, but ya the response is the best, love the debating.

Your side has won, its just going to take a year or two before that becomes known.

The reason so many are getting away with fraud is because alliance don't want to deal with it as much as they used to, heck I was flat out blamed for 3mil being stolen when gov set me up with the seller.

I am speaking for myself, I'm pointing out what you can't do, and that is because you nor your comrades can really speak for anything other then pacifica. You have stuff to loose, you can only be political.

Maybe in the past, but you only value government now, All I ever saw was membership getting the blame for everything that went wrong. Heck even your allies are nothing to you, you call them the same things their enemies do when they are not looking, there was even open talk at times about attacking them beyond just simple joking, because your not dumb, you know whats building up.

The greatest trick the devil pulled was convincing the world he did not exist, and in this case the devil is the true intentions of people.

At heart we are all enemies, because there is only one #1.

brave that your protecting them and staying close to them, as much as Ivan just wants to have fun running his alliance in peace that wish is probably not going to stay granted forever.

What jarheads did still got them off guard, it went from a curb stomp to screaming for allied help to deal with all the little countries that don't even know whats going on (and are now 300 or more future NPO hating players), it just adds to their stress that has turned them into a mad ape that continues smashing everything because they don't know how to handle a CN that is no longer supporting their philosophies, which alliances realize has made the game revolve around them and not truly bring "order". As for the orders allies, most are the people who change sides and turn on their allies when they see are side in a war that will instead favor them. Don't believe for a second pacifica that IRON or MCXA and the other people you have surrounded yourself with are truly as close as Polaris was, they are just waiting to take you out. Your alone now

until somthing is done to fix the real problem all future global wars will be unjust wars just more people being removed by alliances keeping the status que

Really, your organized, and by organized do you mean blaming membership when things go wrong, accusing people who got ripped of on a deal set up by gov for it going wrong, or a trade circle because there is nobody on red to trade with. NPO as a francoist alliance could be more organized than "free" alliances but that would mean them having to be one.