denkimon

I find your insult to my comment ironic to say the least. Why do you feel so? My point is simple. Just because you disagree with someone does not automatically make it trolling. RV states disgust with the posts from 'your side', how is that being a troll? Perhaps you should ask yourself instead why RV feels this way, and whether or not such feelings are warranted. I'll just throw it out here too- I'm not here to win some battle of wits on the OWF because..well why bother? I've seen plenty of 'facepalm posts' from my side as well.

[quote name='Hellbilly' timestamp='1298637848' post='2644688'] Whats NOT expected is someone with whom we have NO problem with, who is in the SAME coalition as we are, in an alliance whom I personally liked and respected, to [b]troll[/b] us. [/quote] I do not think that word means what you think it means.

[quote name='the rebel' timestamp='1298596078' post='2644301'] new math [/quote] I agree! Look at this: GPA: 12 peace (4.6%) GOONS: 40 peace (12.9%) GOONS are infra-hugging hippies more than the GPA! And as one of those GOONS in hippy, I can assure you COMPLETELY that it's because I am afraid. Terrified. I tremble at the thought of losing my infra. That is completely it. I am NEVER coming out of peace mode. /You people are so ridiculous. [quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1298614801' post='2644520'] NSO continues to be my favorite of all the alliances attacking us. [/quote] Ya, I actually kind of like their competence at war, irreverent arrogance and delight in destruction. Reminds me of this other alliance I know.

despicable act ODN. you are so classless you fit right in with those GOONs punks.

[quote name='Haflinger' timestamp='1298134513' post='2638450'] With 22 more currently over 20 days inactive. Yeahhhh. [/quote] Representing about 2.5% of our NS. Yeahhhh. [quote name='Haflinger' timestamp='1298150079' post='2638604'] 22 nations is roughly 16 and a half days' worth of recruiting for you guys. If you lose two weeks' worth of recruits each week, well, math is obvious. [/quote] Which obviously means GOONS will simply vanish without a trace in about six months. But seriously, you all go ahead and keep cherry-picking whatever stats you can fit into your cognitive dissonance.

[quote name='Electron Sponge' timestamp='1298091658' post='2638055'] To which I respond that your alliance has foolishly overextended itself and cannot hope to outlast those who you oppose, given your cultural handicaps and lack of diplomatic acumen. You have chosen your allies foolishly and your enemies even more so. Biting off more than you all can chew doesn't begin to cover it. See you in a month or two bro [/quote] To which I respond that you are probably right. After we are run off planet bob with our collective tail between our legs, we will return months (years?) later and show you all by spewing off nonsense becoming our irrelevant selves...

[quote name='The Crimson King' timestamp='1297315676' post='2627725'] Way to go, you missed the point completely. See what was once again being argued is that you were somehow "piled on". This has been a common theme in the GOON sympathy cry since you were countered. Now obviously if you are claiming that you were piled on that means, by definition, you feel that a disproportionate number of nations declared on you compared to the slots you have open or nations in the ranges targeted. See it does not matter if we targeted the entire aa, or just 35 k or 45 k or whatever. If you want to claim that you are being piled on it means that in whatever range we declared we would have committed a vastly larger ammt of nations than what you had available in that range. So the question once again comes back to one of simple math. There is obviously a benchmark somewhere as far as number of nations counter declaring on you that we have somehow surpassed thus taking this out of the realm of a counter and into the realm of a curbstomp or pile-on or whatever other terms you plan on using. Obviously you are aware that your nation count in the ranges we targeted vastly outnumbers that of most aa's, and that there would need to a "pool" of aa's required ot hit that range, so your argument that you got countered by 12 aa's is useless (To illustrate this point...if 20 aa's the size of Sanitarium declared on you would it be a curb-stomp...of course not). So therefore the number of aa's is a straw man in relation to the argument that you are making. The real question is how many nation would you consider overkill to counter 270 nations with 100% of their slots open given the considerations I outlined in the first post. Once you provide that answer, which will define the point where a counter changed to a pile on in your eyes, then we can compare it to what was actually sent against you to see if your claims you are being piled on are correct. It is really not that hard a concept to grasp. Actually, by your own statement that we failed to provide enough nations to counter all of your guys, you are in fact proving the point that you are not being piled on like your alliance keeps claiming it is As far as your activity levels I was not commenting on goons at all. In fact it is quite the opposite. When mounting a counter we would have to assume 100% activity levels for your nations since it is impossible for us to know which are and are not active, therefore we need to hit everyone (which subsequently raises the number of total nations we need). On the other hand WE need to consider the activity levels of the nations we would be sending in and compensate the gross figure for an inactivity level so that we net the correct ammt of nations for the counter. [/quote] good to know that when 12 alliances declare on us, it's only PART of 12 alliances that declare on us. As in, the PART you need to use in your mathematical garbage. I mean really? You really believe this? How long did you spend contriving this utter crap? Well anyway my (personal anecdote of wartime domination / peace mode joke / 12 v 1 reminder) completely neutralizes your argument. Also Schatt sucks.

[quote name='Kilkenny' timestamp='1296968740' post='2621358'] Boom Boom Artillery Boom!!!!! Time to have some fun....onward to 3mil Casualties!!!!!! [/quote] yes. that's it. someone gets it. have fun other side. we're waiting...

Well I thought you usually make the propaganda before you surrender, but that's pretty good timeline

[quote name='Fernando12' timestamp='1287440903' post='2487220'] say what you will, your alliance and my alliance are on a path that leads to a bloody battlefield. most of that blood will be yours. [/quote] Does FAR know you're running around the OWF directly threatening alliances with violence? [quote name='KainIIIC' timestamp='1287446657' post='2487278'] Principles. Some of you used to have it. Funny, that.[/quote] Oh we have principles. They are just different from yours.

Man the more the hate squad posts, the more I like being in GOONS. I mean you all can't actually be serious can you? You type this stuff with a straight face? Anyway...good fight FnKa. Best of luck to your members.

[quote name='Timeline' timestamp='1286966006' post='2483471'] I will quit when I see fit, not when some noobie from goons wish me to stop nuking there poorly defend nations, as for my blood pressure do not worry, I am fighting goons there's nothing to worry about. [/quote] Poorly defended? Noobie? Hey now that's hurtful. In fact I think we rather enjoy stringing you along as much as you enjoy ranting here... Everyone wins!

timeline, calm down.

typical GOON cowards, having allies.

[quote name='DeadAnimal' timestamp='1285985149' post='2471784'] I do believe you confuse our distaste of a specific group of people with the distaste for an entire AA. This group at one time happened to be in tR. Now you are mostly in GOONS. Hence the label 'ex-tR members. I really didn't think it was all that complex or odious. [/quote] What ever did we do to you? And not just to you personally, but to those who were once in tR and hate us so much? Ya we're not angels and we didn't get along, but...it goes to this level? I don't think I need to list all the crap your side pulled compared to...So why the simmering hate on us? It seemed we had all moved on, but I guess not? The irony of course is than quite a few ex-FnKa members stayed with tR or came to GOONS and can't stand you derpwads either. Meanwhile not a single member of our 'side' ever saw your perspective. Well anyway if you could only see our boards and realize how happy we are (though knowing you, you probably can). We moved on but ya we don't like you either. And you went and handed yourselves to us on a silver platter with all the arrogance and derp we've come to love you for. And you shall burn for it. Enjoy your war FnKa, I know I will.

don't like potato? inconceivable! /hi potato, long time no see...

Just for fun, here's my old perspective on the tR / FnKa issue: [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=87552&view=findpost&p=2340299"]linky[/url]

[quote name='SilentFury' timestamp='1285885168' post='2470265'] dont be so sure.. yankees you dont no what goes on here [/quote] True enough. nobody knows what goes on- especially in your head.

Welcome to the fray FnKa. Hugs all around. One thing I've noticed: Old and Busted: "Do something about it" New Hotness: "We don't like you" CB (I've often wondered when this would finally happen. I love it). Meanwhile a summary of one of the new narratives: Triple team update Blitzes? Good Strategy Bigger Nations teaming Smaller Ones? Good Strategy Going into Peace Mode when your alliance attacks? Good Strategy Getting help from allies in wartime? COWARDS!

looks good, congrats guys.

[quote name='Homeboy' date='16 June 2010 - 09:21 PM' timestamp='1276752095' post='2340366'] Whoa whoa whoa, we have been established for quite sometime with the same range of numbers for quite sometime. [/quote] ya you're right i guess- if they don't stay in TPE they don't count in the end. i suppose the few notable TPE exits inflated that in my mind, as did all the moving around between the alliances mentioned. in my defense, i did add the '?' mark and was including all three alliances in the number.

What this comes down to is the fact that a lot of important people on both sides of this issue ended up not getting along, and one side decided to leave. I’m gonna go with clearly things could have been handled better by all parties. In this sense, I wish you all best of luck, and hope that we all can just move on. My only real issue in all this is this idea that the ex-moonies in tR gov were the sole problem. OK you don’t like some or all of them, fine. But tR gov was always made of members from both merging alliances. Clearly the 35 or so (?) of you that left for TPE, Gondor and now the new and improved FnKa could have BEEN the tR gov had you all voted and most importantly not repeatedly resigned once in office. Instead, from my perspective as an active but non-gov tR member, it felt more like a good third of our alliance was never even interested in making a new alliance out of two old ones. The publicly silent but well-coordinated en masse departures at the same time to the same alliances, coupled with the nuke roguery, would seem to confirm this. It is an understatement that the merger was a bad idea but the silver lining is that everyone wins in the divorce. You all get to be in the new improved FnKa, or wherever else you may be, free from those in tR you don’t like, and so you are now happy. tR is happy too. We got rid of a bunch of unhappy members, a good portion of which were inactives, aid thieves or ghosts, not to mention those inclined to spying and nuclear roguery, etc. Meanwhile we keep lots members from both sides of the merger who are actually committed to the alliance they are currently in as opposed to the one they used to be in.

[quote name='KingEd' date='21 May 2010 - 01:42 PM' timestamp='1274478122' post='2307285'] I don't know what's going on in tR nor do I care at this point...it's your problem to solve, not mine. [/quote] actually it is your problem now. you'll see. best of luck, and i mean that sincerely.

these guys are weird

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