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[quote name='Australian Warlord' timestamp='1293518883' post='2556041'] Just killing 30 seconds & saw something interesting. The top 8 in NEW has only been there within the last week. You also have to go down to 15th on their list to find the 1st actual NEW player willing to fight. So the question is, who's actually fighting here? [/quote] As a 60K plus nation myself I can tell that they are fighting for their ideals.

These NEW guys really screwed some @*#(% up.

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[quote name='Geoffron X' timestamp='1292969534' post='2548742'] iFOK is not in LEO! [/quote] No but FOK is.

[quote name='Dochartaigh' timestamp='1292968480' post='2548727'] not every war is going to be clear cut with the sides nicely lined up and all your ducks in a row. if you are waiting for that, then stop having your alliance and your allies continue to sign treaties. otherwise, it will never be clear cut and you will most likely end up having to hit an ally of an ally or go neutral. [/quote] NSO-ROK war was pretty clear cut IMO.

[quote name='Dochartaigh' timestamp='1292967020' post='2548693'] wait- i thought that ODPs did not matter? cuz according to PC and iFOK, any other alliance who defended DF would be considered bandwagoners, including those who were in NOIR with DF. so the official position of iFOK is that NOIR does not matter at all but somehow LEO does... as for attacking TPE- yep you should have. PC could have hit INT as i don't think there are any ties there. now lookie there, PC and iFOK could have entered this war with ease. this whole "united front" is a cop out pure and simple. [/quote] You need to do a little more homework. Except for TPE(again AFIAK) all those alliances are on the same side of the web. I don't really see NOIR turning into a oAP bloc for this. But NOIR does matter, PC is in it, so is Umb. I don’t think iFOK has ever said NOIR doesn’t matter.

[quote name='Dochartaigh' timestamp='1292966418' post='2548681'] treaty conflicts only occur if you hit the ally of an ally. i am not sure if INT or TPE is allied to anyone in PB. FARK is, but that is 1 out of 3 alliances. so this whole "zomg treaty conflict" argument is bs. [/quote] I've said it before; iFOK has treaty conflicts with Fark directly, and INT through LEO. If anything we could have attacked TPE but seeing as FARK/INT/TPE are a united front it probably wouldn't be such a good idea.

[quote name='Steve Buscemi' timestamp='1292965631' post='2548656'] You NPO guys really need to shut up. You did the same thing with the last NSO curb-stomping. When you criticize us, you only incriminate yourself. [/quote] I don't think they had any treaty conflicts if you're talking about the NSO-ROK war. There were clear cut sides AFAIK.

To people calling us cowards, iFOK is MDoAP'd with FARK and NEW. So if you have a better way of dealing with this I'd like to hear it. Otherwise put a sock in it; or better yet attack NEW.

[quote name='WarriorConcept' timestamp='1292814071' post='2545357'] This announcement is in line with our policies since this alliance has been founded. If FARK and INT are willing to offer aid then that's fine, but thus far I have not read anything about it except the possibility of a war. Instead of waiting around for diplomats from all over to work out their solution and post it up I decided to take matters into my own hands for those DF nations that are at war and want some help and protection from future raiders. And I don't require treaties to help those whom I feel are being wronged. [/quote] Using policies as an excuse is moot; any alliance is free to do whatever they want regardless of their 'polices'. I can't say the last time I've seen CB swoop down to save an alliance(Correct me if I'm wrong.). You've basically painted the picture that you don't think Fark or INT are capable of aiding their friends in DF(Or they don't care to.)-This is nothing more than a PR move and possibly a chance for you to increase your membership beyond 13 nations.

[quote name='Aurion' timestamp='1292813127' post='2545338'] It could also be that WC thinks NEW are being beyond retarded. [/quote] Which doesn't discount the fact that WC isn't the only one who thinks what NEW did was retarded. I'm questioning how sincere this announcement is. Aren't FARK and INT willing to offer aid to DF? Why does WC feel the need to jump in with no previous treaties to DF?

[quote name='Smooth' timestamp='1292811462' post='2545298'] As always, a very classy decision by our protectorate. o/ [/quote] This is obviously to avoid a war between PB/FARK/SF or whatever; doesn't take a genius to see through holier than thou bull crap. Why else would a VE protectorate be aiding against an iFOK ally?

Well I guess that's the least you could do if you really are their friends.

Well I no longer care what NEW did; I just want to nook some of the crybabies in this thread. [quote name='abdur' timestamp='1292775520' post='2544482'] What I am saying is that, knowing how much DF is hated. The least they could have done is make an official announcement. That is, if they REALLY wanted to protect DF. [/quote] Besides the point. You have to assume that DF's friends are going to protect them during the disbandment, 'official response' or not. If NEW wanted to ignore this fact at least they could have put their ducks in a row by running this past their allies before pulling this stunt.

May no CATLAND member suffer from megacolon like my girlfriend's cat was just diagnosed with today. It's bloody expensive to fix.

If I recall Nemesis and Umbra had the top blitz stats in the Karma war. I don't know what happened to Nemesis after that but it was quite a fall.

I don't understand. You say tech raiding contributes to the stagnation of the game because people get bored in big alliances? This is not the first time there has been tech raiding. If anything raiders are like natural selection; they weed out the weak.

Why would you need an onscreen keyboard?

Now usually I like long drawn out OP's but I'll spare you all this time 'round. Halloween is awesome and wouldn't a global war make it even more awesome? A global war with armies of zombies! Now I can't say if there's any tension SOS on PB to warrant a global conflict TETRIS right now. I honestly don't pay enough attention to that kind of thing New Sakura Order. So I haven't heard any underground rumour IAA doesn't like Arrnea or whatnot about who is going to attack who. Hopefully this can be a learning opportunity obigatory GOONS for those of use too busy getting into costume to know what the heck is going on. Put your reasoning in your post as to why or why not to a Halloween war.

Does that white liquid in a glass comment sound suggestive to anyone or am I just too durnk to be on CN? o/ TETRIS

Who is this CMEA??

I have no idea what this is about but I saw TETRIS mentioned in the OP somewhere and they have far more credibility than SOS Brigade. I think I saw INT mentioned as well and they have more credibility than SOS Brigade. IMO SOS Brigade doesn't deserve either of these alliances as treaty partners.

Concise and to the point.

[quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1288379838' post='2496540'] Are there designated catchers or is it cyclic in nature? [/quote] I would hope everyone gets a turn so no one feels left out. But then again it isn't my bloc.

These alliances are a natural fit in each other. Congrats!