jimbacher

Careful, Sponge gets stronger anytime his name is uttered...

LULZ, just so you know, I personally don't give a damn about terms. I left NPO to fight for TPF during this war because they wouldn't let me post on the OWF. I am at 4 infra and 0 .04 tech(down from 8k infra), and yet I still think your sore #$$ is funny. I could see the writing on the wall awhile ago as well Grub, you aren't the only person here with half a brain(funny because most of OWF has less than that). Maybe you guys should have entered the war on the other side then(Again just take out your !@#$ on me and not the NPO or TPF since I alone and smacking a hornets nest with a stick), since if that is the way your membership feels you guys may as well. There is still time Grub go and do it(and I mean declare war on me not everyone else ), you might manage to knock away my last 4 infra, I know that would make you happy. EDIT: Nothing that I say here should be construed to be either the views of the TPF or the NPO. These views are those of myself and have no sponser

Well I think helping out during that war would have involved me not attacking MK, I could not find it within myself to do such a thing .

I like how everyone complains when NPO has radio silence, then you complain when some of their members come here to post what they have been thinking. I was in the NPO when you guys got rolled and IIRC we(as in most of the general membership) were very upset at what was happening to you guys. Some people actually left NPO during this time(presumably to fight for Polaris), while many of us contemplated doing this. Honestly Grub, some of this hate coming from you seems a little rediculous(Yes, now you are going to blame me for rolling Polaris I know it, but I never did ).

OMG you are so cool, posting like 20 numbers and all. OK, so how much can those nations you put up send out in aid in a month? That doesn't seem like 350+ 1 billion $ warchests.

lolz, added that to the sig

Were they given 6 months to pay off these terms, I was under the impression it was 10 cycles.

Yes, but the phoenix was meant to be that way .

Yes you are right, 300/450 is not > .25 ... Please go back to school.(also the number is 300k + 8 billion so its much more than 300k) .

Yeh ok let me go see how long it takes 5 nations to pay off 8 billion in reps. EPIC PHAIL.

Read this post you people. 8 BILLION + 300k tech >300k tech.

Yeh, except for the fact there were timetables associated with paying the sums of tech and cash that were not reasonable. Try to make a coherent sounding post next time.

Wow, fricking despicable terms. Not because of the harshness alone, but because they would not be able to even pay them. Good luck with this NPO.

NPO acted with their version of the stability of Cybernations at heart too, and yet their are all these alliances questioning said motives . How dare somebody question your motives, that must be just as bad as getting beat on by 5000 nations.

I'm gonna have to agree with this. Until I see that NPO has gotten terms(which they haven't unless I'm mistaken) which include this doctrine becoming null and void(which they would probably still accept), it doesn't mean squat.

Happy birthday....Nukes for everyone

Especially when you consider there will be reps on top of that. Lets say there is one banker in pm for every 6 at war. That would mean at most, each member could expect 3 million per aid cycle. Much less when you consider reps as well. And don't bring in billion dollar warchest arguments, most members don't have them. Also, you can only send 18 million in aid a cycle at the most anyways.

I find this funny that some of you don't think the NPO upper tiers have suffered enough. There are now only 37 NPO nations above 50k NS. That isn't a hell of a lot. Some statistics shown below. #PM--250-------------PM NS--4578022.932-----------PM Infra--797102.9-----------PM Tech--250409.33 #Total--765-----------Total NS--7,041,917-----------Total Infra--1,047,016---------Total Tech--501,057 %--------------------------%---------------------------------------%--------------------------% 0.326797386-------------0.650110323-------------0.761309187--------------------------0.499762163 515 nations outisde of peace mode account for a total of 2,463,894 NS. That means that the average non PM pacifica nation has a WHOPPING 4784 NS. Fact---you want reps, you need banks to pay them off. I understand some of you want to really hurt pacifica, but as you can see this has already been done. The average non peace-mode pacifican has 485 infra left!!!.

If you wonder why the entire first page is peace mode, it is probably because you sufficiently destroyed their non-peace mode first page such that they dropped from the first page.

What is this thread about again...Last 2 pages completely off topic. Oh yeh, how bout those pre-terms given to the NPO that make about as much sense as giving them peace once they hit 5 million NS. Does anyone from Karma(officials) have anything to add, like maybe what the terms kinda sorta maybe might look like, and when possibly Pacifica might see them?

Seeing how there are several hundred members of the NPO and only a few posted, I'd say that most of them listen to their leaders quite well.

Well, I value my first amendment rights to freedom of speech. I wasn't kicked out, but I did have a yelling match with bilrow that ended not so well lol. I then decided to self-zi, give my tech to the order and be gone. Apparently that info I posted violated opsec though, and will lengthen the war for my former brothers somehow. I loved Pacifica too .

Can anyone tell me for a fact karma wants to end this war? Here are some Pacifica stats straight from the alliance page Pm NS-----------------Pm infra-----------------Pm Tech 5040583.514----------889875.21---------------272008.12 Total NS----------------Total infra---------------Total Tech 7,484,085--------------1,130,983----------------528,720 %-----------------------%-------------------------% 0.673506984-----------0.786815726-------------0.51446535 The vast majority of the NS of pacifica lies in peace mode. There is currently no incentive to leave peace mode since the majority of nations out of peace mode are already ****ed.

So you speak for Karma as a whole then right? Also, how long after members leave PM would we get terms? I'd rather be zied for a year and have no reps to pay, then have to pay rediculous reps with no nations still capable of making said payments.

Yeh and yours is not? You are assuming we get terms when nations pull our of pm.