jimbacher

The point of this whole thing argument is we have not been given surrender terms yet. So we pull our nations out of pm and we still get pummeled for another two months. What is the point in that if the whole alliance will be pretty muched zied either way.

So if you are trying to end a war you don't give peace terms...seems logical. Where is NPO's incentive to agree to your pre-terms. You can't do much more damage anyways. Most of the non-pm nations will be zied soon enough.(Check my own nation out if you don't believe me.) And we are happy to ride zi too .

Where do I see terms anywhere. These are terms to "possibly" get terms.

Pm NS-----------------Pm infra-----------------Pm Tech 5040583.514----------889875.21---------------272008.12 Total NS----------------Total infra---------------Total Tech 7,484,085--------------1,130,983----------------528,720 %-----------------------%-------------------------% 0.673506984-----------0.786815726-------------0.51446535 Only 2.5 million NS of pacifica lies outside PM. Which implies around 5k average NS for non PM nations. If you think you can "drop" us to below 5 mill NS, it is not possible. I am not here to argue or anything, just posting stats.