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To put it simply... there has been a disagreement between government of both alliances and attempts to rectify the problem have been unsuccesful. Thats all I will say on the matter as it did not directly involve me.

Ok, I'm going to make a request that is completely unheard of in CN. please keep this thread respectful, no !@#$%*ing at either individuals (MP >_>) or alliances as a whole. You can do that whenever else you want, but not here. Thanks.

Sad to see this end. Good luck RDD.

[quote]Your point? Cry me a river. If they don't want you in your channel, they don't have to let you in. The converse is true as well.[/quote] Next time try reading the context of the post. I couldnt give 2 !@#$% if they banned me from there or not. I was just replying to somebody moaning about how undiplomatic we were for kicking a few people when PC had already taken it several steps further.

[quote]Yes, PC also kicked people from their channel for weak reasons. That also wasn't very clever. [/quote] To be more precise they banned anybody with the Echelon tag from their chan for the reason "I dont like you"

[quote]The only thing mediocre and micro is your respect for sovereign alliances. [/quote] Awww, and I was hoping for a penis joke to be placed there. I have to say though that the amount of !@#$%*ing in this thread is extremely high for the OWF... which is saying a lot. People need to get over grudges on this game, when somebody is !@#$%*ing at somebody just because they were a regular member in an alliance 2 years ago, you just know things have been taken too far.

One point. [quote] 1. We have never really had to deal with Caffine1 much in the past. We are, however, aware that he is not supposed to be Gov in Echelon per terms from Karma War; we now understand why. Poison Clan will no longer take queries, talk to or in other way interact with Caffine1.[/quote] From personal experienece I know caf can be blunt... but can you please provide any logs to show where he was unreasonable in dealing with this as I personally have not seen any. Other than that and the other blatant insults aimed at us to distract from your mistakes with this incident, I'm glad to see the decision to send reps. This is going to be my first and last post in this thread.. otherwise I'll probably end up saying something I regret.

[quote] I've been told by PC gov they would have probably paid had there been less hostility on Echelon's part. [/quote] Can you please point to any hostility on Echelons part? But its fine for PC to have banned anybody with the Echelon tag from their public chan...right? (although in fairness to them, it was quickly corrected)

[quote]It should tell you something when your alliance hasn't had a very successful negotiation/foreign affairs (from some people's perspective) history. Not everyone who opposes you can be wrong, you know. Get new, decent negotiators with more tact. [/quote] Thanks for the advice but next time when replying to me... try to actually reply to what I said instead of making a pretty much new/irrlevant point.

[quote]Being reasonable in negotiations is having a firm stance with a little room to compromise. If you truly believe SBA deserves payment, you shouldn't budge to 1/4th of your original offer. While paying out of your own pocket is a nice gesture, it would be entirely unnecessary if your negotiations didn't fall through almost instantly every time you speak to someone. [/quote] The fact that PC won't pay the 50 mil pretty much sums up the prospects of them paying 200mil. It just wasnt going to happen. It was better for us to attempt to get some reps for SBA rather than insist on the full amount and definitely get nothing.

The twitter was/is not Echelon related. [quote] Sort of amusing to see which people are claiming 100% reps is the only right thing when someone gets attacked for no reason. I wonder if there's any other similar situations where that could be applied.[/quote] Well the main thing here is PC's own rules say they have to.. whiwch is the main difference. Plus the fact we're only asking for 25% and..yeah.

[quote]The one that was made *by* a current member of Echelon. Unless, of course, Echelon is saying that they've let DrStrangelove1977 ghost them for over four months.[/quote] He is a member... but only a member. Since the last time I checked.. regular members do not do the decision making for echelon regarding the status of treaties/allies.

[quote]I think it is important to note that these are Raid Rules and are not part of the PC Charter.[/quote] So it is completely fine to ignore the alliance rules now.. just because its not in the charter?

[quote]Speaking of surrender terms, isn't caffiene supposed to stay out of the government? [/quote] Caf isn't gov. [quote]Out of curiosity, when this war kicks off you are you sure you won't be violating your recent surrender terms? [/quote] Our terms stop us from re-entering the current conflic, not to avoid war until the current conflict ends. If we were to declare it would be a completely new conflict.

Wikis : The most reliabe source of information since rumours. Seriously, there was enough pointers to raise question marks about this raid, it would have taken say.. 30 seconds to ask echelon?. You chose to ignore them and attack anyway and then refuse to pay even 25% of the damage that was done. Awesome.

And yes I'm willing to switch. Wouldn't have signed up for it otherwise

Marble/rubber http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=390640

Edit: Sorry, nevermind

Alright, thanks

So no tracking the MAC adress? (I know some games do)

Basically my friends computer has given up and died, but I see them pretty mcuh every day. If I took my laptop to their house and they logged onto it with their own internet connection thats completely seperate from mine, would that be ok and within the rules? (I thought it would be.. but always better to check)

Nobody in our alliance was complaining about it. So don't start acting like a sarcastic *insert word here that would probably get me warned if I actually typed it* Just saw somebody asked *shrugs*

[quote name='Krack' date='19 February 2010 - 10:34 AM' timestamp='1266575653' post='2191839'] I, too, heard this vicious rumor. I find it very hard to believe. [/quote] We had new nations with about 2k infra getting nuked.. so yes they nuked non-nuclear nations. Congrats on peace everyone I guess.

[quote]Remember that time when Echelon stabbed an entire bloc in the back? Yeah. [/quote] Wow.. one mistake years ago. Get the hell over it. I mean since then we have had karma war "honoured treaty even though we knew we were in for a beating" and this war which is pretty much the same. But I guess some people will never drop a grudge

1st nation: lost interest in a week 2nd nation: went nuke rogue (back in the days when you could get nukes at 15k ns) 3rd nation: crap resources 4th nation: didn't like the name i had Now I'm back.