dragonknight1000

[quote name='wickedj' timestamp='1290575436' post='2521848'] Two thoughts come to mind #1 what in the HELL happened, Mia you been TOOL for like six years(yea, i know..learn sarcasm) #2 theres now a deputy in charge? ruh roh [/quote] tbh, he was in the Hand of War position before the change and is a constant in the TOOL govt. (ever since long before I joined TOOL ) so he's no stranger to perma govt. I assure you

[quote name='Denial' timestamp='1290574191' post='2521821'] I must admit I wasn't aware TOOL still existed. You guys have been quiet. [/quote] you forget that TOOL's usually quiet on the FA front (they only speak when they need to ) this is rather sudden change (wth?) but nevertheless, GL to TOOL during this transition and I know Daks will do a fine job as LCC o/Daks

ouch, that's a big drop TOOL - who left or got deleted?

Tetris: winning green alliance and soon to be big contenders in the CN world cup - join the fun today (link available upon request or can be found on 2 pages prior to this one) edit: minor adjustment and warning to avoid Mack should you join >_>

[quote name='Gopherbashi' timestamp='1290390617' post='2519802'] A British accent makes anything more awesome. [/quote] at lest better also to LoSS: en garde

damn, I liked AoR good luck w/ future endeavors o/AoR

[quote name='President S O' timestamp='1289863883' post='2513859'] Congratulations to all signatories, especially Europa. Though, I am not keen on the flag. [/quote] you should see the one they used when the bloc was formed X_X on topic, congrats to BBF for this new development, Europa's good folks and now w/ great friends (also good to know Wolfpack's still going - I thought you guys have gone dead slient from months of inactivity here but that's your style ) o/BFF

V_V I blame Pollard/Mack for the lack of activity here don't be afraid, we keep you connected b/c we're Tetris

caption: 'I pray for a CATombombing run to rid the world of dogs and pet costumes' good read from MHA

@Jarkko: a TOOL/Tetris match or final should be quite fun to witness also can't wait for this to start, can't the other slots fill up fast enough.

page 3!? okay, NOW we need to get off our lazy asses and do stuff join Tetris and help out w/ the activity-boosting drives

[quote name='Bill Wallace' timestamp='1288883067' post='2501894'] Take a look at the various Green Team alliances. Most of these alliances are committed to a stable environment and once you feel you're ready to branch out on your own, there will be no shortage of friends in other alliances that will be committed to your safety through Green unity. As mentioned before, the GPA may be a good alliance to speak to if you haven't already. Good luck. [/quote] basically this, green team in general has stable and friendly alliances (GPA, VE, wF, Symphony and of course, Tetris ) so can't go wrong on green team (Tetris if you want the laid-back, we have 'Pollard' as our alliance head - how much more laid back can you get )

Tetris: with excess WIN and the only way to control the WIN is to join it

welcome to the 1k club (one I hope Tetris will reach eventaully) o/wF

[quote name='pachirisu' timestamp='1288408724' post='2496848'] You know what irks me? You claiming that all you wanted to do is to patch things up between both side yet you lean towards NsO during this whole debacle. I'm not referring to your stance inside this thread but your involvement during the whole drama, You maintain a position of neutrality on the front and kept urging both sides to reconsider their differences however some of your actions beneath that front disgusted me. You were involved during all these drama and your actions lean towards the current NsO group instead of trying to be a mediator for both sides. I do not know whether you were confused or misled amidst all these dramas but I sincerely hope that you were indeed confused or misled. If its neither of those two, all I can say is that I'm disappointed. I was than genuinely surprised upon seeing you resigning after 13 minutes of making a post which state you being 100% in agreement with my post on getting together and roughing it out when the situation had became a meltdown. I would really like to know what happened during that 13 minutes which result in a complete turnaround from getting behind the alliance and roughing it out to upping and leaving if there is one and hopefully its not the reason that I think it is. [/quote] Was I confused about the whole mess? of course I was - confused as to how the #^$% all this happened (the possibility of my siding w/ NsO was true at 1st and possibility in case reconciling was impossible and I was forced to pick a side, but later on - I switched to wanting to patch things up between the two (like I said, I did get Arrnea/Elrich in a private PM convo to TRY and talk it out and find the source of the issue: needless to say that was a total failure V_V). I also had quite a bit going on w/ RL at the time too so I can't remember all the details of the events that took place, but after the split or b/t the time frame - I gave up and run: I'm wussed out and the stress resulting from this whole fiasco was too much for me and I had to leave. I never meant to hurt the SOS that much when I left and I doubt you'll ever forgive me for it but I am truly sorry for all this though I could've got somewhere else besides Tetris - I felt they would be a okay place to think about what to do next (not b/c of the NsO crowd - I'll be honest, I'm just as upset at how they handled the situation as well >_>) I reached the point where I don't want any more part of this debacle so this post will be my last here, just so you know, I still care for most of the SOS members b/c before the mess started, I enjoyed my time there - that part's no joke and while you may not feel this way about the NsO (or me for that matter): I wish you guys luck in moving on from this and that's all he wrote.

have gaps in your CN life? let Tetris fill their in w/ blocks of join today

[quote name='Locke' timestamp='1288252120' post='2495048'] I'm not sure if you noticed, but that was about michaeru, not you. And I don't hold your actions made as a member of NsO (your status in that chan keeps me from calling you an SOS member) against Tetris. Just against you. I still haven't forgetten your kind words a la Diablofan on your way out either. [/quote] I'll admit, I may have said a few extra things when I left that was not in good taste and for that, I'm sorry. Typical of CN forum nature: all I tried to do at this topic was to get both sides to stop bickering and move on w/ their lives but ended being a target - guessed I should've known better >_>

[quote name='Locke' timestamp='1288232430' post='2494783'] He said so himself, it's kind of fact. Not to mention what was described here: [/quote] like I stated earlier, I was involved to an extent (for better or worse) but here's something else you guys just clearly ignored: I TRIED to patch things up between both parties as well, I tried to keep the SOS in general together before the impeachment attempt, when the vote time came - I knew the impeachment attempt wasn't going to help so I didn't take part. and while this whole mess occurred - I basically was going back and forth on the sides but I only wanted things to 'FORGIVE and FORGET' but when both sides can't agree and the mess that'd unfold was when I had enough of the drama. (I had planned on rejoining TOOL if I left SOS but Tetris had some awesome guys we both can agree on so there - not b/c of Elrich and his co. it's my own choice) know what, I no longer care either, the past is the past so it should stay there or in private (the OWF trolls don't need the extra bait >_>) label me a rouge, traitor, scumbag - doesn't really matter - just do me a favor and leave Tetris out of it, this mini-cluster$%&# is only b/t SOS/NsO and me: NO ONE ELSE, got it?

[quote name='Locke' timestamp='1288214319' post='2494443'] But...my tone was perfectly low. I was just stating a fact; DK1K participated in the planning stages of NsO and their actions, and we provided you proof. [/quote] I was with them when they planned it and nothing more (I was making plans to join Tetris regardless whether Elrich and crew were going there or not once I realized nothing else could be done and I didn't like where things were heading - so do be so kind as to not make this anymore problematic than it is: how many must I say we should let the past go before it'll sink in?), but I also tried to patch things up b/t the 2 opposing (Arrnea/Elrich can vouch for that - given all the good that did) b/c I originally DIDN'T want the split up to happen, not at all (it was basically too late once a 'certain' member started the impeachment attempt a few hours after being against it....damn V_V) edit: to clarify what Pollard stated, they only lurked in the channel and wasn't involved in the events that occurred b/t SOS/NsO - you can keep up the trollfest if you still insist on holding grudges but at least keep our allies/your allies and all other non-involved parties out of this.

[quote name='Logan' timestamp='1288198069' post='2494310'] Dragonknight is not a member of NsO. Also I would rather see everyone take Dragonkitten's advice and go your separate ways, this doesn't seem to be helping anybodies case here. [/quote] thnx for that good friend (also Dragonkitten...why Logan? V_V) [quote name='Locke' timestamp='1288199211' post='2494325'] May as well be, with the help he gave them. You've got the logs. [/quote] I don't remember which logs you're referred to, but I won't deny that I was involved to an extent (though I wasn't in the Skype convo about the discussed impeachment), why do you think I've said we all @#^$ed up, I also meant I screwed up, at the time I was trying to get the story straight, figure out who's right or wrong and the truth is no one is: we're all victims from days-weeks of mistrust, miscommunication and this...is the result we got. Were my choices right? I don't know but atm, I don't hold any regrets (except for one: wishing I'd done more to prevent this but RL is SO damn demanding - you know this factor as well as I do), as stated, we can't change the past, all we can do is just put the grudges to rest b/c let's face it: holding such grudges is never a good thing. why am I getting involved, I have just about as many friends in the SOS as much as I do in NsO and It's just saddening to see the two go at it like this when we used to get along so much before why did this happen? we've make our bed and now's we're lying in it, so like I'll say again - enough's enough, let it rest for ALL our sakes (you too NsO)

[quote name='Cataduanes' timestamp='1288160206' post='2494114'] Sweet jesus this is getting silly now guys [/quote] this current llamaing wouldn't have happened if they only read my earlier post and let it end >_>

[quote name='Ginryusama' timestamp='1288148466' post='2494005'] This sounds amusing. You guys only failed for creating your cheap copy of SOS. The charter was amended, iirc, by the help of your current chief/empress or whatever, so did you mean she was a dumbass too? [/quote] I'm not calling anyone in particular a dumbass, I'm just using that to express the point that we could've paid more attention to it >_> stop trying to twist my words.

since my earlier post were ignored by the SOS/NsO posters, I'll post this again: [quote name='dragonknight1000' timestamp='1287973766' post='2492457'] to those left in the SOS - here's something you may have overlooked: NONE of us (both SOS/NsO) wanted this to happen, some did all they could to fix it (myself included) while others were occupied tearing out one another's throats. We can't undo what occurred, all we can do now is just 'forgive and forget' and move on b/c I for one have enough of hearing this crap >_> We all #^@!-ed up one way or another (stupidity runs in the DNA :v) - that is certain but whining about it isn't going to change anyway so it's best to just let it die please. Granted, I don't have a lot of room to talk here but that's my 2 cents. [/quote] and to concur w/ Jens: the SOS charter at the time [i][b]was[/b][/i] flawed (and we're all dumbasses for failing to notice that V_V) though tbh, none of this would've happen if both parties of the argument were more open and communicated w/ one another, as TVtropes put it: [url="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PoorCommunicationKills"]Poor Communication Kills[/url] (thnx for the time waster, Kagami ) but alas, it wasn't so >_>

we lost more lines than planned so time to bump up the pile join us today

for anyone joining the thread: these 3 posts gives the tl;dr (more or less) as to what the BSing all about: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=93728&view=findpost&p=2492083 http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=93728&view=findpost&p=2492111 http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=93728&view=findpost&p=2492379 Though it also happened b/c both sides had some...trust issues (which escalated last month and the result isn't pretty) to those left in the SOS - here's something you may have overlooked: NONE of us (both SOS/NsO) wanted this to happen, some did all they could to fix it (myself included) while others were occupied tearing out one another's throats. We can't undo what occurred, all we can do now is just 'forgive and forget' and move on b/c I for one have enough of hearing this crap >_> We all #^@!-ed up one way or another (stupidity runs in the DNA :v) - that is certain but whining about it isn't going to change anyway so it's best to just let it die please. Granted, I don't have a lot of room to talk here but that's my 2 cents.