Acetone

If all we wanted was to hit Pacifica, we'd do what Doom House did: form alliances, plan for months, play our political cards, and strike when we were sure of victory. No, we are here for destruction, for chaos, for ar\m/ageddon. We are here to tear up faces, and we don't expect in the slightest to win. We are here because we are \m/. I couldn't care less about NPO's precious infra. I want to see things burn, and hearing you lot crying over it makes this so very much better. \m/>_<\m/

Ar\m/ageddon is upon us, and I feel just fine.

Up until this war, I had basically already stopped. I'd collect taxes and pay bills once or twice a week, when I remembered that this game existed. The only reason I bothered with that was to see how things would end, and let my nation make it to its fifth birthday (six days from now). After this war, I give it a few more months before I accidentally let my nation get deleted.

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1295747435' post='2592704'] It's starting to surprise me the amount of whining coming from the VE's, it's even more amusing since VE's side is the big side. Also Citizenkane, I made something for you: [img]http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/5043/ckcry.png[/img] [/quote] Love it.

[quote name='BamaBuc' timestamp='1295744410' post='2592658'] Haha, I understand getting mad when one ally attacks another, but \m/ isn't even treatied to you! Why would you take it so personally that they attacked your treaty partner in defense of their ally? -Bama [/quote] PC (some of it, anyway) and SLCB hate us, and they know we're on the losing side of this war. Now, they're looking for any excuse to Perma-war us, just like the good old days.

[quote name='d3filed' timestamp='1295729542' post='2592291'] Without any hostility, i just find it ironic that way back when PC helped \m/ in bipolar,(when nobody else would) with RoK disregarding the treaty. Now you're theoretically helping NpO & RoK indirectly against those that did come to your aid. I've already stated that i don't care for \m/ or it's insignificant existance, yet the whole argument taking place reeks of hypocrisy. [/quote] We don't have a treaty with PC. We have a mutual defense treaty with RoK. I'm not seeing what's so hard to understand here.

[quote name='Alterego' date='16 February 2010 - 07:34 PM' timestamp='1266348898' post='2185967'] Re-arming and re-entering the war are much different than having 26% troops but both would result in a ZI sentence from /m\ This term turns a nation from a POW into a lifer depending on the /m\ood of /m\ [/quote] [url="http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/FAN-1V_War"]Valhalla wouldn't dream of doing something like that[/url], right? Funny, your allies do it to the entirety of FAN over a few factories, and somehow we're the ones who you're 100% certain will attack someone over a slight infraction of terms.

Brief raid followed by peace =/= forcible amendment of someone else's charter, and calling someone out on false moral posturing =/= false moral posturing. Just sayin.

I laughed, and now I hate you. Welcome to the party GOD, OWF tears are on tap.

I clarified this already, \m/'s charter only states the rules for individual nations. A raid with two other alliances isn't covered, so it's up to the government.

They ended when Grub flat out stated he'd go to war with us. The racial slurs came in response to that and were apologized for.

Hard to say when there was never an honest attempt at diplomacy.

Every post you make saying we screwed up diplomatically. If you have no problem with us saying "!@#$@#$ Bring it", then the argument that we failed in diplomacy is worthless.

That's what \m/ said, and you seem to have a problem with that.

Gotcha. So, should I ever roll your alliance, I expect a 1000 word minimum poem hailing my greatness in rhyming iambic pentameter. Anything less and you will be considered the offensive side in the war for not practicing diplomacy.

So, you're asking us to brown-nose him. Any time someone is annoyed with us, we should try to appease them? When someone openly states multiple times that they'll go to war with us, we should kiss his feet? I know those three members screwed up, and we apologized for that. What else does Grub want, a cake?

That's really not even close to what happened. Grub came into our channel and said he'd declare war on us in 3 days. 3 members of \m/, none in government, insulted him. We then apologized and warned people that our members do stupid things like that. They were punished within \m/ itself. If Polar views that as war worthy, they're more bloodthirsty than we are.

"VI. Nation-on-Nation War: 1. \m/ does not promote or encourage single-nation war, but will allow individuals to fight in accordance with the following guidelines..." We never broke it. A group raid with two friends along for the ride isn't covered in our charter, it's at the discretion of the government.

Hard earned resources? You can't be serious here.

What is a tech raid victim? If someone raided me with four ground attacks and offered peace, even if he won all four I'd be right back where I was in less than a week. Raiding someone does minor damage, yet you act like every tech raid constitutes a full blown 7 days war with 6 nukes.

That's what he gave you. If you don't want to be raided, join an alliance. If you don't want your alliance to be raided, get some allies. If you want to help tech raid "victims", recruit them to your alliance and send them foreign aid.

TPF loses nearly one million NS before finally getting it's allies in the war, who declare under 30 actual wars on only 3/4 of TPF's attackers. \m/, Athens, Ragnarok, and GOD lose around 400k NS combined, and white peace is declared. Neither side suffers any further consequences, because neither side wants a global war to result from Supergrievances and others entering on the side of Athens. What exactly did TPF win?

Sal's idea needs to be on this: Sitzkrieg.

Halsa declared support. There isn't a single war between any Halsa nation and any TPF nation right now. Try harder.

I love how one member breaking the rules now counts as the entire alliance doing it. At least pretend you aren't just looking for an excuse to hate us.