TheThirdMark

Oh hai thar!

Not suprised by these actions committed by NpO. We all know they are a lousy bunch. So happy trappling VE, bring me a rugg.

Radiation alarm just went off. Better close windows and doors in 24hours.

Happy hunting.

[quote name='Lexenstar' timestamp='1294344060' post='2566136'] If I remember correctly it is up to the alliances themselves to run inter-alliance treaties, deals, and agendas. Therefore no warning or banning would be permitted I would assume. Seeings no rules where broken within CN itself. [/quote] Mentioning the sheir fact that there is actually anything outside CN is a bannable offense (many have been banned/warned before for it). This stolen protectorate gets broken/cancelled cause of something someone did completely outside CN. Not that I care much about it, but its weird how admins can have such double moral standings.

In short, you step out of this treaty cause of a perons OOC lifestyle? According to Admins this could get your entire Alliance warned/banned.

Sjakiliv! Thank you for showing us the way. We will hang the traitors by the end of the day (with some kebab). Good luck with your future plans within Valhalla. Im sure they will appreciate you for who you are.

Wait wut? FOK finally grew the balls to kick out that idiot of a Dictator, to install another idiot? What has come to FOK, the once so great Alliance.

[quote name='Havamil' timestamp='1281316856' post='2405748'] kinda sounds familiar eh? considering you are aiding a rogue as you speak, nice [/quote] Lol. Then tell me. Who is the rogue in my aidscreen? Then again, im used to failhalla telling nonsense.

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1281316509' post='2405726'] [color="#0000FF"]It doesn't matter. RoK attacked someone we made clear was being treated as a member until evidence could be provided. It is not an obscene request and as I said, it is one that would usually be granted. But the simple truth is RoK wanted war. There was never a hope for peace at all.[/color] [/quote] In all fairness. Someone within your group of Space Rebels made the effort of logging in on CN, going to the Rogues Aidscreen and send the money. It would have been a very small effort to check the warscreen first. After all, he did log in to the game and its only the previous tab. Then looking at the clear information every Red Flag should have gotten out, every Alarm Bell sound. Its rather obvious to each and everyone within this game that both RoK and NSO were more then willing to go to war over this ''small'' incident. RoK because they simply dont back down, NSO because, lets be real, they just love War 'N Drama.

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1281315915' post='2405686'] [color="#0000FF"]No, we requested the information several times. We were met with threats and grandstanding from RoK. Heft, then sent the aid. But remember, their denying us the information and their disregard for diplomatic procedure predates any of the aid drama.[/color] [/quote] Blehh why do you have a good answer on my simple questions. You know, hate is hard to reach when someone is diplomatically enough to rethink their words. You should have been in the IRC querry and this shenanigan would have been avoided. Then again, some acts deserve a war. Though not the way this is turning out. Kicking a Tiger in the balls is funny. Specially when you havent given the idea about the lose claws a good thought. Though when that tiger brings an entire family the fun is gone, the love is dead.

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1281315104' post='2405609'] [color="#0000FF"]You're leaving out the part where we told RoK to hold on the attacks until we could get this thing investigated. They said they'd get us the logs we requested, and it seemed like they'd wait as well. Imagine my surprise when I log on to see they had sent us no logs, and they also attacked.[/color] [/quote] Hmn, perhaps somewhere in the line where they wanted to send you that data they found out you were directly aiding a rogue in his assault on said Alliances? And that they felt it was their time to tell you: We dont care. ?

This DoW is like the frosting on a pie when you have already eaten the pie. You could have made it clear that you all would stand by your protector, something both obvious and admirable. But another DoW on top of, what, 5 others is a bit to much.

[quote name='Blue Lightning' timestamp='1281314001' post='2405514']This is something that a 10 minute conversation would sort out if both sides were looking for a reasonable diplomatic solution. Clearly that isn't the case here, so it's not really a surprise that this insignificant incident has been blown way out of proportion. [/quote] You mean, something like this? RoK: Ohaithar! We seem to have a bit of a situation. NSO: We dont care. RoK: There is a rogue attacking one of our protectorates. NSO: We dont care. RoK: We are bound by treaty to step in and take care of this little problem. NSO: We dont care. RoK: The rogue involved can either pay the Reps (yes, a massive and extreme 6M as we all know an amount nobody can afford). NSO: We dont care. RoK: Or get a single ZI out of it. NSO: We dont care... But... We will aid him in all his actions he will make as if he was still a rogue. RoK: Why would you do so. It will be an act of War, are you REALLY willing to make this escalate? NSO: YES. RoK: Well we prefer a normal way of communication so we advise you not to do so. You know about our sentiment in this situation. NSO: We dont care. *5 minutes later* ''Aid, Aid, Aid'' *10 minutes later* ''Hell unleashed etc etc'' *50 minutes later* ''NSO hereby officially cries and asks each and every crybaby to come here and cry with us like a pack of incontinent wolves''. Feel free to correct me if im wrong.

Someone, a rogue in this case, is at war. That someone, in this case a rogue, joins an Alliance (happens to be NSO). That Alliance, in this case NSO, didnt check that someone's, in this case a rogue, warscreen. That Alliance, in this case NSO, was contacted about the recent history. That Alliance, in this case NSO, insisted on letting this escalate. That Alliance, in this case NSO, committed one of the most clean Acts of War. And now you start whining about it? Thank you for showing your roots.

Well its clear NSO wanted this war by on purpose letting this small problem escalate. Starting to whine about Alliance size is a real dumb thing since the smaller Alliance spit in the bigger Alliances face and ''expected'' a continuation of communication. NSO was offered a very easy way out where each and everyone could continue their normal way of life but instead choose to go to war over a rogue. Most Brilliant move this year so far.

Good luck showing the true Force!

The ''Look at us, failing in holding up any Doctrine at all'' shows the fail in a certain Alliance.

Wait a sec (to lazy to check 15 pages of madness). You say the leader of MK has no control about what his members do in OOC time outside the game, yet the same time you accuse him of being OOC? Strikes me fishy.

The Royal Divian Fallus has won again. Good Luck to all other FOkkers. (seriously, we gonna need it...)

May I congratulate everyone participating in this war? No? Well, still gonna do it. Good luck with the peace and rebuilding and dont feel ashamed to drop by and clear out FOK's pub to talk about the great days.

We had fun, good luck in the future.

[quote name='RustyNail' date='24 February 2010 - 01:25 AM' timestamp='1266971333' post='2200091'] This disgusts me and I for one, wash my hands of FOK. I truly thought better of you all. [/quote] So its safe to presume that we will see a ''Sadly to inform''-topic tomorrow? Put your money where your mouth is etc.

[quote name='sha the merciless' date='23 February 2010 - 09:05 PM' timestamp='1266955506' post='2199405'] Oh hey TOP! Thanks for all your help. Yeah, i've been meaning to call, but we've been too busy $#@*% ! on you every chance we get. So like we was saying, thanks for all the help over the past couple years, we'd like to repay it with a DoW. It's the least we can do. Your friends at FOK. [/quote] How sweet We [b]both[/b] take another FA route. No one to blame, happens and nothing really bad with that. TOP declares a war on a direct partner of FOK, without reason, hoping FOK would a: Dishonor a treaty b: honor a treaty. You can pick a and b, dont care, the outcome is the same. [b]YOU[/b] started hostilities. Then to make sure the !@#$ would hit the proverbial fan you, in all your wisdom, decide its smart to directly aid a Stated Enemy of FOK. There you go. [b]YOU[/b] gave your started hostilities some fuel. No hard feelings for the rest, but when no other choise is left, what to do?

Well we had a good time Wolfpack.