ShawnNL Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Great University The great university is a central location for scholars within your nation. Decreases technology costs -10% and increases population happiness +.2% (+2 for every 1000) of your nation's technology level over 200 up to 3,000 tech. I only have 1 national wonder (Stock Market). Most people recommend to buy the SSS as your 2nd national wonder. I have 2700 tech now. Is it better to buy a "Great University" instead of a SSS? And if yes, how many happiness points will I receive if I have 3000 tech? 2nd question: Nation Map Does anyone know where I can change my position on the map? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom of Royalty Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 (edited) SSS should be better, you need to do the maths to work out by how much.... With a university you get +2 happiness for every 1000, so with 2700 tech, that would be (2*2.7) +5.4, that would be an extra $3.024 extra per citizen net (28% tax rate). With 3000tech it would be +6 happiness = $12gross = base $3.36 extra net. Give or take that may equal about $3.50 extra as according to some people happiness is a bit more than 2$ each.. To work out SSS on the other hand calculate your gross income *0.02, that will give you what you get extra per person. You will probably find the SSS is a fair bit more than the Uni 2nd question - Edit My Nation, next to capital city, click the little icon "move capital city" Edited October 22, 2007 by Kingdom of Royalty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnNL Posted October 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Thanks a lot for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDave Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 (edited) +6 happiness, if you have all income improvements should give you almost $7 in tax - over $24 gross income The +6 gives 12 to base income and modifiers should more than double it. (I think the exact figure is $4.2 per happiness) Edited October 25, 2007 by TheDave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 Make sure you mind that % income modifiers that affect how much income you get per happiness. With all % income improvements, you get around $4.16 per happiness point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom of Royalty Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 (edited) Intresting.. Based on if it was $4.2 that it would be an extra $7.05 which is pretty good.. vs say around 350*0.02 = $7 for the SSS.. So maybe the Great University would be better.. Having a quick look though I worked out the modifer would be an extra 100% at most (96% for bank, school, foreign aid, and harbour) are there any more factors which would affect it? Edited October 25, 2007 by Kingdom of Royalty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicman657 Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 You forgot Universities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom of Royalty Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 Im upto 96% now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 (edited) Intresting.. Based on if it was $4.2 that it would be an extra $7.05 which is pretty good.. vs say around 350*0.02 = $7 for the SSS.. So maybe the Great University would be better..Having a quick look though I worked out the modifer would be an extra 100% at most (96% for bank, school, foreign aid, and harbour) are there any more factors which would affect it? Max banks: 35% Max schools: 25% Max univsersities: 16% Foreign Ministry: 5% Harbor: 1% 1.35 x 1.25 x 1.16 x 1.05 x 1.01 = 2.08 (approx.) x 2 = 4.16 per happiness 4.16 x 5.8 = $24.13 increase in income from 200 technology. So technically, Great University has an edge over SSS only under certain circumstances. If your nation doesn't have a lot of technology, then Social Security System is the way to go. However, if you have a lot of technology, then Great University has a slight edge, and allows you to purchase more technology for a 10% decrease in price (though, buying more than 3,000 technology is a bit overkill unless you really want to inflate you nation strength). Edited October 25, 2007 by SpacingOutMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom of Royalty Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 Ah I was going wrong with thinking all improvement income percentages stacked with eachother. Intresting information, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 Ah I was going wrong with thinking all improvement income percentages stacked with eachother. Intresting information, thanks No problem. That's why it's kind of frustrating when people say always take the +$ options in events when sometimes the + happiness is better... it all depends on the nation's situation and circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sayton Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 yepp i myself get about 4.152 per happiness.. i think great univ should be AFTER everything though. .whatever ur call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted October 25, 2007 Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 yepp i myself get about 4.152 per happiness.. i think great univ should be AFTER everything though. .whatever ur call Well, the OP has almost 3,000 tech already, and it benefits his nation more, although it is only a $0.05 difference. In this case however, I don't think $0.05 is much of a difference. You plan to buy more tech past 3,000 (if you don't do tech deals for some reason), then go for GU. Other than that, you actually have a balanced choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnNL Posted October 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Thanks for sending me a p.m about my topic Kingdom of Royalty, appreciated. (didn't know my topic was still alive ) Interesting info. I think I go for the GU, I could use the extra money even if it is just $0.05 Thanks for the help guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacingOutMan Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Anytime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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