Agostinho Neto Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 (edited) Nevermind, i declare this topic null and void. Here's the deal: When dagestan collapsed, Azeri troops pulled out. The territory is unclaimed and without a government. Edited March 11, 2009 by President Aliyev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comrade nikonov Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 We condemn this imperialist action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agostinho Neto Posted March 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 We condemn this imperialist action. Indochina does not retain the moral basis to judge our actions, nor the aknowledge of the regional situation to judge an internal affair of the Union of Transcaucasian Republic. There is a treaty between Azerbaijan, Dagestan and Nagorno-Karabakh which guarantees independence of each republic. Our troops have taken control of Dagestan because they were already stationed by the accords. Unlike many other countries, we will not let the situation escalate into nationwide rioting and some crazy lunatic dictator to take control of Dagestan and trigger a regional conflict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comrade nikonov Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 OOC: We all love regional conflicts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Seb Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 The UESR condemns this action and demands Azerbaijan withdraw. OOC: JED has made it clear many times the territory goes back to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agostinho Neto Posted March 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 (edited) The UESR condemns this action and demands Azerbaijan withdraw.OOC: JED has made it clear many times the territory goes back to him. We will not withdraw from Dagestan to let it invade by someone else, Dagestan belongs to the Dagestani people and nobody else, we signed an accord with Dagestan, an accord known as the "Union Defense Act", and we always respect pacts and treaties. We will not let any other nation invade Dagestan because this is not the will of the Dagestani people. Our troops were already deployed on the territory according to the Union Defense Act, to prevent foreign countries to occupy the region in case of unrest or state dissolution. The Republic of Dagestan never ceased to exist, but the Azeri military is in charge of law enforcment and emergency service. We ask other nations to not interfere, we know what to do and what not to do. Edited March 8, 2009 by President Aliyev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDCJT Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 (edited) The United Kingdom condemns this act of imperialism, especially of a territory that had once belonged to us. We thus invoke the Augustus Doctrine and request that Azerbaijan withdraw its troops from the region. Edited March 8, 2009 by JEDCJT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agostinho Neto Posted March 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 (edited) The United Kingdom condemns this act of imperialism, especially of a territory that had once belonged to us. We thus invoke the Augustus Doctrine and request that Azerbaijan withdraw its troops from the region. Like we stated earlier, the Union Defense Act signed between the Dagestani Republic and Azerbaijan never lost its effect, therefor we still guarantee the independence of the Republic of Dagestan. We invite the leaders of the United Kingdom to discuss the matter in Baku. We confide in the good relations always existing between our countries, especially between the First Republic of Byzantium and the Azerbaijani Republic. Edited March 8, 2009 by President Aliyev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDCJT Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Like we stated earlier, the Union Defense Act signed between the Dagestani Republic and Azerbaijan never lost its effect, therefor we still guarantee the independence of the Republic of Dagestan.We invite the leaders of the United Kingdom to discuss the matter in Baku. We confide in the good relations always existing between our countries, especially between the First Republic of Byzantium and the Azerbaijani Republic. The Prime Minister and Emperor will attend. However, our position still stands. We do want to maintain good relations with Azerbaijan, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 We support the United Kingdom in this matter and urge Azerbaijan to withdraw it wont be able to fight the UK should tensions rise to that level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agostinho Neto Posted March 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 (edited) We support the United Kingdom in this matter and urge Azerbaijan to withdraw it wont be able to fight the UK should tensions rise to that level The Azerbaijani Republic does not need to fight to agree a solution on a common issue, violence is not in our style. We guarantee the Independence of the State of Dagestan as a soveriegn and independent country, which is recognized by the United Kingdom itself as stated in the Declaration of Independence of the Republic of Dagestan and Chechnya Edited March 8, 2009 by President Aliyev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDCJT Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 The Azerbaijani Republic does not need to fight to agree a solution on a common issue, violence is not in our style. We guarantee the Independence of the State of Dagestan as a soveriegn and independent country, which is recognized by the United Kingdom itself as stated in the Declaration of Independence of the Republic of Dagestan and Chechnya That was officially recognized by Nova Roma, which no longer exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agostinho Neto Posted March 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 (edited) That was officially recognized by Nova Roma, which no longer exists. The Republic of Dagestan and the Republic of Azerbaijan have signed a Union Defense Act to prevent foreign countries to invade us, but the collapse of their state institution was unexpected. As the Dagestani Government dissolved, the Azeri troops already on the territory have taken control of the situation. We did not invade dagestan, we were there already, helping Dagestan to defend their borders and coastline, due to the Airspace Violation occured a few weeks ago by Estovakia. So our fast response cannot be considered an imperialist action, because mantaining pulic order and state institution is part of the accord signed between the Republic of Dagestan and the Republic of Azerbaijan. If the recognition of the Independence of Dagestan by Nova Roma is no more recognized by the United Kingdom, then why do they still recognize a claim on Dagestan, it shouldn't be linked to the United Kingdom anymore, the same goes for Azerbaija and Nagorno-Karabakh. However in the former Roman provinces in the Transcaucasus, Azerbaijan is the only one who aknoledges Byzantine origin, thats why we never ceased to recognize the government in Byzantium. Edited March 8, 2009 by President Aliyev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDCJT Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 The Republic of Dagestan and the Republic of Azerbaijan have signed a Union Defense Act to prevent foreign countries to invade us, but the collapse of their state institution was unexpected. As the Dagestani Government dissolved, the Azeri troops already on the territory have taken control of the situation. We did not invade dagestan, we were there already, helping Dagestan to defend their borders and coastline, due to the Airspace Violation occured a few weeks ago by Estovakia.So our fast response cannot be considered an imperialist action, because mantaining pulic order and state institution is part of the accord signed between the Republic of Dagestan and the Republic of Azerbaijan. If the recognition of the Independence of Dagestan by Nova Roma is no more recognized by the United Kingdom, then why do they still recognize a claim on Dagestan, it shouldn't be linked to the United Kingdom anymore, the same goes for Azerbaija and Nagorno-Karabakh. However in the former Roman provinces in the Transcaucasus, Azerbaijan is the only one who aknoledges Byzantine origin, thats why we never ceased to recognize the government in Byzantium. We were merely making a correction. The statement was made by Nova Roma, not the UK. That, and the region used to be under our jurisdiction. We reserve the right to make a claim over it, as specified through the Augustus Doctrine. Besides, how do we know the Dagestan people supports this? Perhaps a referendum should be opened as to let the people of Dagestan decide their own course of action? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agostinho Neto Posted March 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 (edited) We were merely making a correction. The statement was made by Nova Roma, not the UK. That, and the region used to be under our jurisdiction. We reserve the right to make a claim over it, as specified through the Augustus Doctrine. Besides, how do we know the Dagestan people supports this? Perhaps a referendum should be opened as to let the people of Dagestan decide their own course of action? The Dagestani People is not responsible of the State Dissolution, thats why we decided to not annex Dagestan, byt to guarantee its independence. Compared to the land of the United Kingdom, the territory of Dagestan is very small, but it's important for its people. However, the Oversea territory of Dagestan on the east side of the Caspian Sea wasn't originally claimed in the Declaration of Independence of Dagestan, nor by Nova Roma.. if for the United Kingdom is ok, we will withdraw our personnel from there to hand it to Byzantium. Edited March 8, 2009 by President Aliyev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDCJT Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 (edited) The Dagestani People is not responsible of the State Dissolution, thats why we decided to not annex Dagestan, byt to guarantee its independence. Compared to the land of the United Kingdom, the territory of Dagestan is very small, but it's important for its people.However, the Oversea territory of Dagestan on the east side of the Caspian Sea wasn't originally claimed in the Declaration of Independence of Dagestan, nor by Nova Roma.. if for the United Kingdom is ok, we will withdraw our personnel from there to hand it to Byzantium. So...what about the referendum? As far as we are concerned, this is the only way the Dagestan people can voice their wishes to the rest of the world, so to say. As for the last part, we will certainly consider it. Edited March 8, 2009 by JEDCJT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agostinho Neto Posted March 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 So...what about the referendum? As far as we are concerned, this is the only way the Dagestan people can voice their wishes to the rest of the world, so to say. As for the last part, we will certainly consider it. Our plan is to held new general elections within the next week, just like only the goverment collapsed, and not the whole state. We offer this solution: To set a quorum, if the quorum will not be reached within 72 hours, then the Azerbaijani military will withdraw and cease the recognition of the Republic of Dagestan as its people have no interest in self-governance and national sovereignty anymore, it would be a waste of resources and personnel for us to defend a territory without a national institution. If the results will meet the quorum, we will withdraw from the oversea territory of Dagestan. If the results will not meet the quorum, we will withdraw from the whole territories previously claimed by the Republic of Dagestan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDCJT Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Our plan is to held new general elections within the next week, just like only the goverment collapsed, and not the whole state. We offer this solution: To set a quorum, if the quorum will not be reached within 72 hours, then the Azerbaijani military will withdraw and cease the recognition of the Republic of Dagestan as its people have no interest in self-governance and national sovereignty anymore, it would be a waste of resources and personnel for us to defend a territory without a national institution.If the results will meet the quorum, we will withdraw from the oversea territory of Dagestan. If the results will not meet the quorum, we will withdraw from the whole territories previously claimed by the Republic of Dagestan. OOC: So...you'll be making a poll, then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agostinho Neto Posted March 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 OOC: So...you'll be making a poll, then? OOC: I'll be making a general election with candidates and political parties.. considering the size of dagestan, 2 parties will be enough. The poll will remain opened for 72 hours, so lets suppose the quorum is 15 votes, if in 72 hours the poll will count less than 15 votes i will withdraw from dagestan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian the Mighty Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 For the record Slavorussia doesn’t recognize the Augustus Doctrine as a serious doctrine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperator Azenquor Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 (edited) Vaule expresses our support for our allies in the United Kingdom., and we request that Azerbaijan immediately withdraw from Dagestan until negotiations with the United Kingdom regarding the area are complete. Vaule's Ambassador to Azerbaijan, His Excellency Sir Vladimir Zhukovsky, is recalled to Vaule for consultations. Edited March 9, 2009 by Imperator Azenquor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agostinho Neto Posted March 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 Azerbaijan will not withdraw from Dagestan until the elections will express the will of the people, if the polls will not reach the preset quorum, then we will withraw. Dagestan has been independent and sovereign for months, and as the United Kingdom doesen't recognize it anymore, we don't recognize the United Kingdom's claim because dagestan was not part of the United Kingdom, but part of Nova Roma. For the record, the Azerbaijani Republic never accepts orders from foreign countries, but always finds equal accords with serious and sometimes long diplomatic talks. We are talking about the national identity of a land that has been ally of Azerbaijan for nearly 2 months. Unlike many other countries that are sticking their nose into this common internal affair of the Azerbaijani Republic and the United Kingdom, the Azerbaijani Republic, and i'm sure also the United Kingdom, didn't even think about using war to resolve this issue. War is for those who fail in diplomacy, diplomacy is for those who win in politics and honor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperator Azenquor Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 Vaule's government has requested that the Azerbaijani Ambassador to Vaule, return to Baku until this situation has been resolved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agostinho Neto Posted March 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 Vaule's government has requested that the Azerbaijani Ambassador to Vaule, return to Baku until this situation has been resolved. Ambassador Polad Bulbuloglu returned to Baku, but expressed disappointment over the international pressure and the interference of countries not even involved in this minor territorial dispute, anyone should care its own internal affairs, and let diplomacy do its work. Some national leaders make it look like prelude of a regional war, on our side, this is just ordinary administration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumeragi Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 Altin Urda kindly requests that Azerbaijan get out of Kazakhstan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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