iKrolm Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 (edited) How many (I think 2, right?)/where are the current mars bases in CNRP? (So I don't build one on top of someone else's...) Edited November 3, 2009 by iKrolm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 How many (I think 2, right?)/where are the current mars bases in CNRP? (So I don't build one on top of someone else's...) Good point we need a Mars map too for CNRP now and a Moon map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Well considering I doubt mars bases to be huge supernations I doubt we need a map Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Just go to the weaponry area of the website, it explains everything. Quite some extensive reading--for me anyway. Good point we need a Mars map too for CNRP now and a Moon map. Well considering I doubt mars bases to be huge supernations I doubt we need a map It would still be nice, in case those who possess these bases want to do an RP with them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Quite some extensive reading--for me anyway. It would still be nice, in case those who possess these bases want to do an RP with them... Its needed in case anyone decides to launch attacks from one colony/base to another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 No one can launch an attack from a space-colony. Even the super-nations of CNRP don't have the equipment for that. Interstellar or stellar warfare is still way more advanced than CN's Mars' & Moon bases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 No one can launch an attack from a space-colony. Even the super-nations of CNRP don't have the equipment for that.Interstellar or stellar warfare is still way more advanced than CN's Mars' & Moon bases. I meant one mars colony attacking another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 And my statement was directed at that: You wouldn't be able to get a significant amount of forces within space to mount any sort of threat, not to mention all the specialized equipment that you would need. It would be a large waste of money, tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKrolm Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Specialized equipment? You'd need transportation, some guns, plastic explosives, and O2 tanks. But having said that, I'd be just as cool if someone didn't come blow up my Mars base... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 (edited) I meant one mars colony attacking another. The most you can do is throw missiles at each other, and even missiles wouldn't be very efficient since there are no satellites orbiting Mars to guide the missiles to the target. Deploying soldiers with special climate body suits is extremely expensive, perhaps even more than the missiles. The most our max amount of tech level allowed is equip space shuttles with missile launchers or basic laser weapons. Even that is pushing it since it would require much more engine thrust to lift the extra weight off Earth and drag a massive solar panels or batteries. A ship with massive solar panels is very vulnerable, since enemy ships can simply throw a high explosive missile at those solar panels and boom, bye bye to the power source required needed to fuel the laser weapons. Edited November 3, 2009 by HHAYD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakwars Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 (edited) There is a series of books called The Lost Fleet that has very realistic space combat. The ships in that version of stellar warfare flash past each other at up to 0.2 lightspeed. And, they incorporate time delays due to the speed of light into the combat scenes. Their weapons are called hell lances. Hell lances fire a "lance" of charged particles (it might be energy, but i think it is particles) at the enemy. Edited November 3, 2009 by freakwars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 "There is a series of fiction books" Noted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biohazard Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 The most you can do is throw missiles at each other, and even missiles wouldn't be very efficient since there are no satellites orbiting Mars to guide the missiles to the target. Deploying soldiers with special climate body suits is extremely expensive, perhaps even more than the missiles.The most our max amount of tech level allowed is equip space shuttles with missile launchers or basic laser weapons. Even that is pushing it since it would require much more engine thrust to lift the extra weight off Earth and drag a massive solar panels or batteries. A ship with massive solar panels is very vulnerable, since enemy ships can simply throw a high explosive missile at those solar panels and boom, bye bye to the power source required needed to fuel the laser weapons. Actually, most if not all missiles would do poorly in space due to the lack of oxygen. The resounding explosion and damage would be minimal, at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahsir Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 (edited) Actually, most if not all missiles would do poorly in space due to the lack of oxygen. The resounding explosion and damage would be minimal, at best. High explosive warheads are almost pointless, shrapnel and liquid metal jet warheads aren't. Edited November 4, 2009 by Tahsir Re Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 High explosive warheads are almost pointless, shrapnel and liquid metal jet warheads aren't. I don't think shrapnel missiles would do much damage unless if your enemy base lacks armoring. In space wars, it will chew up ships' thin armoring, if any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Space warfare hasn't been allowed for close to a year now. There's no reason to let it be allowed now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 (edited) Space warfare hasn't been allowed for close to a year now. There's no reason to let it be allowed now. I'd think a basic space warfare should be allowed if long distance space travel is allowed. The space ships shouldn't be one of those ships in Star Trek or Star Wars. I am talking about a slightly enlarged space shuttle with few weapons equipped. Rail/coil or multiple laser guns would be off limit unless if the RPer comes up a way to supply those energy hog weapons with electricity. Plus, the space ships would have even weaker armoring than a standard naval battleship due to weight restriction, resulting in a situation where whoever fires first wins. A punctured hull in a naval ship is no problem as long as no water is leaking in. A punctured hull in a spaceship will spell disaster for the crew. Space battles will last much shorter since most of the space battleships have weak armoring while towing high firepower. Edited November 4, 2009 by HHAYD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 -snip- The only reason long-distance space travel is allowed is because it exists in-game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 (edited) The only reason long-distance space travel is allowed is because it exists in-game. Exactly, but a few missile launchers and maybe a low power laser weapon should be the max amount of weapons a space shuttle can hold. The armoring would be the same as the civilian transport, almost non-existent. In RL, you throw a RPG at a slightly larger space shuttle and it's going to cause some serious damage to the hull, fatal to the crew if it is in the outer space. An anti-armor missile or laser weapon would be an overkill. I'd seriously doubt space battles would last more than 5 minutes. I don't see why space battles should be banned if they are going to be extremely short and infrequent. Edited November 4, 2009 by HHAYD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 The most you can do is throw missiles at each other, and even missiles wouldn't be very efficient since there are no satellites orbiting Mars to guide the missiles to the target. Deploying soldiers with special climate body suits is extremely expensive, perhaps even more than the missiles.The most our max amount of tech level allowed is equip space shuttles with missile launchers or basic laser weapons. Even that is pushing it since it would require much more engine thrust to lift the extra weight off Earth and drag a massive solar panels or batteries. A ship with massive solar panels is very vulnerable, since enemy ships can simply throw a high explosive missile at those solar panels and boom, bye bye to the power source required needed to fuel the laser weapons. Although you could attempt to sabotage one another. Spy attempts and the like. That's actually what I was thinking of. "There is a series of fiction books"Noted. newsflash...a 'fiction' book written by H. G. Wells predicted war in the air, and the Atomic Bomb. Science fiction can become science fact. Space warfare hasn't been allowed for close to a year now. There's no reason to let it be allowed now. Actually, technically, the only thing banned was space-based weapons for use against targets on the Earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Although you could attempt to sabotage one another. Spy attempts and the like. That's actually what I was thinking of. True. Venting the ship's atmosphere into the outer space would be tragic for the ship's crew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 True. Venting the ship's atmosphere into the outer space would be tragic for the ship's crew. Uh, I was referring to the colonies/bases themselves, HHAYD... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 (edited) EDIT: Never mind. Edited November 4, 2009 by HHAYD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 newsflash...a 'fiction' book written by H. G. Wells predicted war in the air, and the Atomic Bomb. Science fiction can become science fact.Actually, technically, the only thing banned was space-based weapons for use against targets on the Earth. Just because one person made a very smart conclusion and also happened to write fiction books does not mean that every science fiction author is a genius. Should we be looking for raptors with WW2-era weapons to pop out of the sky? There was no specification other than space-based weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted November 4, 2009 Report Share Posted November 4, 2009 Just because one person made a very smart conclusion and also happened to write fiction books does not mean that every science fiction author is a genius. Should we be looking for raptors with WW2-era weapons to pop out of the sky?There was no specification other than space-based weapons. Obviously some of them will not happen...I was just pointing out that some are perfectly plausible future technologies. The one that was in those 'fictional books' sounds like it might be one of them.Won't know unless I read 'em, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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