Heard any good rumors lately?

[Rayvon]

A few members proclaiming things does not make it clear that they have a structure, considering that all we have is their word that they speak for whatever alliance they claim to represent.  There is nothing else to back that word up.

Then do you require someone who is not MQ to declare it since someone who is doesn't qualify as a subject expert on themselves? Is this where the legitimacy issue is on hold for you? I don't recall any other alliance requiring someone who is not of their own AA to declare their legitimacy for them. Afterall, in any other case, it's just their own word that they're representing an alliance.

[HM Solomon I]

Then do you require someone who is not MQ to declare it since someone who is doesn't qualify as a subject expert on themselves? Is this where the legitimacy issue is on hold for you? I don't recall any other alliance requiring someone who is not of their own AA to declare their legitimacy for them. Afterall, in any other case, it's just their own word that they're representing an alliance.

 

No, but the word of only a few nations on an AA with 50 nations doesn't strike me as conclusive proof, especially considering they have no charter or other fundamental agreement indicating that these few are the ones with the legitimacy to act or speak on behalf of the others.  That is the reason why charters are so important.  

 

Since we have nothing other than their own word that indicates that these few are in fact the ones that the others have agreed to let speak for them, we have no objective way of evaluating their claims.  

 

As far as declaring legitimacy by an outside party, that is done all the time.  Every protectorate treaty implicitly recognizes those whose sigs are on the agreement as the legitimate representatives of the protected alliance (and so therefore does really any treaty).  However, the only protector of MQ that's ever been identified is MK, which doesn't exist by its own admission (since they chose to disband), and it has no other treaties.

 

In the absence of some charter or fundamental agreement or outside recognition of legitimacy through a treaty of some kind, there is no way to verify that these few are indeed the legitimate representatives/leaders of MQ, which makes it hard for an outside observer to really believe them.