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  1. AirMe

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    Wow. Name calling? Nimrod? There's civility for you.

    We didn't have to do a lot of things but we chose to be there for TOP. So because of that you chastise us. If we said "Nope, not going to fight." you would have probably been the first one slamming that decision too. And where did I even state that we were FORCED to? Read much? Signing Mandatory anything just gets you into trouble apparently. You could have just declared that your deal was satisfied after the first round a peaced out like a lot of others but you decided to press it thinking you could profit from it. You chose to attack US. CHOSE to mind you, because of your MANDATORY agreement and figured you wouldn't have to fight much because of the dogpile. The reason for lack of a counter attack was because most of our slots were already full and you can't declare from anarchy.

    Our charter states we will not pay reps to those who attacked us. Which is what Checkmate did.

    Well, you have your counter attack now.

    This isn't a counter attack really. It is an insurgent attack that can be easily repaired when all is said and done.

    Actually I wouldn't have ridiculed you for not following TOP because you have an MDoAP. Really the only ridicule you would have seen from me is if you had an MADP with TOP and not honored. The little o's are just that, optional. Though giving your past history and the controversy surrounding your formation, if you didn't support TOP there would be no doubt that people would come after you pretty quickly. So I don't really blame you for going with them.

    We don't peace out after 1 round while our friends are getting attacked. It's not how we roll. We commit all the way. And if you think we are profiting at all from this, you clearly have no idea how much damage gets taken. I only had 1 war due to my family and travel obligations and I lost over 500 tech. Extrapolate that over the length of this war and 5 or 7k tech doesn't come anywhere close to being a profit. If we wanted to profit we definitely would have gone about this a different way.

  2. AirMe

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    WTF are you on about AirMe? In our one and only conversation some 30 days ago I never mentioned TSO disbanding. If anyone has disrespected anyone here it's the collective governments of checkmate not having the courtesy to talk to me at all since CnG's opening offer. Our members take offense at your alliances trying to sparta their way up to the rep trough and voted such. Get over it and fight the war. Earn the reps you are trying to exact from us.

    As for the negotiations they are being handled the way they are now in private to make sure each negotiation doesn't turn into a cluster**** like the first set did. I believe it was your side that complained about that. If you wanted to deal directly with us, nothing is stopping you from making that request. Which I have no issue with and understand your concerns. No one is "Spartaing" their way up the reps ladder. Good term by the way I chuckled :P Without giving away sensitive materials, there are some people who wanted a lot more than was originally asked. The reason it was upped from 15k, to 21k was because of the change from direct to indirect. Cash really is no issue for all our nations lets just be quite honest about that so paying us in tech indirectly really doesn't effect you that much.

    As far as the disbandment claim, I based that off the inquiry about individual terms that was immediately followed by the question asking if they could go anywhere they wanted once they were out of the fight. So if I misinterpreted the request I do apologize but it was the opinion of the people in the room at the time that you guys intended to all surrender individually and then reform as a way to escape.

    We have been fighting this war. And will continue to fight this war but I am a hippie at heart and always desire peace. You only got attacked by us because you attacked our allies. You can't kick a wolf and not expect the rest of the pack to come to his aid. If you didn't want to pay reps you shouldn't have started the war.

    As I have stated, this isn't about continuing the war, we will fight as long as is needed. Personally I am more upset by the disrespect of the war declaration instead of you coming to us or C&G in private and telling us the offer was denied.

  3. AirMe

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    Another thing, you didn't HAVE to activate your treaty with TOP to offensively enter a war. So claiming you were forced to enter is bull. You entered optionally. We entered because it was MANDATORY. But then again you guys have seem to forget how a damn treaty works. "Hey its ok for TOP to vote on honoring mandatory treaties but as soon as someone else does it IT'S DISHONORABLE." Run back to peace mode.

  4. AirMe

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    Ok. Here's the deal.

    TSO enacted it's treaty with TOP. Face it AirMe, Ronin/Genesis/OSA or whatever weren't declared on. You declared, sent a total of 8 attackers on us at the beginning, and then demanded 21K tech? That's not respect. That's extortion. For what? You attacked US. We never really even countered you until you came up with these asshat reps for doing the least you could do for your allies thinking we're a quick an easy war. I don't see any declarations on any of the other numerous alliances that attacked your allies. If you look at the war screens under Genesis and Ronin, A damn good portion has you guys as the attackers.

    The war isn't over and you can pile on more reps if you want. You haven't figured it out yet? We DON'T care!

    We're not going to pay 21K and we're not going to pay more than that to you because we decided to counter attack your actual first attacks on us. Lordie lord blame us for actually fighting.

    GATO has taken 100x more damage than you guys. Their initial offer was 10K reps and in the end, they dropped even that. Then in you come saying "We want 21K even though we didn't do anything." You realize thats more than HALF of what all of CnG was asking from us for doing a fraction of the fighting.

    For the record, nimrod, we started out at 5k a piece in Checkmate. Then you guys claimed you had to disband because it was against your charter to pay reps directly. So we came to a compromise of 7k tech a piece in checkmate. So instead of looking at JUST RONIN, all of checkmate has made up the bulk of the counter attack on you. It's not our fault you back yourselves into a corner by putting a clause in your charter that makes it so you aren't allowed to legally pay reps.

    I am not blaming you for anything other than declaring on MK and =LOST= making it so we had to enter a conflict. We can continue to fight as long as you needed. What I have an issue with your is in your face disrespect which is kind of funny because this war started because TOP saw MK as disrespectful.

    So to FIX your numbers. Original reps were 5k tech for Ronin which is a drop in the bucket. Then you guys said you had to disband to pay directly and the offer was upped to 7k indirect. And we have had more than 8 wars on TSO. And it isn't our fault you guys didn't launch a counter on us. You should get some better war planners. For an alliance of 31 nations we have had at least 70 wars. So your facts again are skewed.

    Bottom line, you declare on ANY of my allies and we will defend them.

  5. AirMe

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    AirMe can not be blamed for making TSO attack, as he didn't. However, Ronin can be blamed for having their allies attacked, since it was Ronin's choice to ally with the alliances in question.

    So yes, I suppose you could indirectly blame AirMe for it.

    I also heard I was the cause of type 2 Diabetes. :smug:

  6. AirMe

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    Mr. Janova comes from a background where we were oppressed. We were taken advantage of and the only difference between your former home, MK, and Gremlins was that we didn't get into an actual war, we politically manuevered ourselves to getting what we wished for, secretly, WHILE helping your former home with the little Nowedge fiasco. Lets not forget Bilrow and his wonderful dummies in suppressing green, lets not forget Janova and his buddies attacking NPO in GWIII and maneuvering themselves so they were offered white peace. Gre did what MK did, only better.

    I will say that you guys did it differently. You also had a chance to make good friends who were able to help out. All we had was UJP and once that was gone we were on our own for a while. As for the noWedge incident, I do personally appreciate the help you guys gave but many people I considered friends turn their back on us in that situation which has left me a little bit bitter still because it never should have happened.

  10. AirMe

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    You had the choice of (re)founding Ronin. You also had the choice of signing a treaty with MK and =LOST=. You had the choice of keeping those treaties. You had the choice of upholding those treaties, and thus you had a choice to declare war. You had the choice of entering into peace negotiations. You had the choice of mandating reparations or letting only those that deserved them demand them. You had the choice of posting this blog. You have had many choices and seem to continue making bad ones. TSO had similar decisions to make and they have made their choices. However, there is no mistaking the fact that you joined this war of your own free will. (The only people who may have mandated or forced you into this conflict are your allies, with whom you freely chose to sign a treaty with.)

    It's great that you "were not going to enter", but the fact is that you did enter.

    I am pretty sure me being born has had an effect on everything too. I am surprised you didn't throw that into the argument you just tried to present.

  12. AirMe

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    The key word is "chose", meaning you had a choice. You alone are responsible for your actions, don't try to pin the blame for your will on someone else. The only case in which you could have been "dragged in" by TSO is if TSO hit you right out. However, it was not they who declared a state of war between your alliances.

    Man up and accept the responsibility for your actions, whining here will get you nowhere.

    We had a choice of who to attack in honoring our defense treaties with MK and =LOST=. Honestly though, our anger was directed at TOP, we much would have preferred to help there but we were a better match for TSO.

    If our forums come back with all the info I can produce government polls to prove that we were not going to enter the war prior to the preemption.

    EDIT: I always take full responsibility for my actions. Can you point me to where I haven't?

    Clarity: I am not complaining about anything. We know where we are and why we are in this war. TSO was chosen for our front because that is where we matched up the best. I am confused where you think I am complaining here?

  13. AirMe

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    Oh yea, they really dragged you guys in:

    I recall a wise man once saying you whined a lot.

    Yes, they did. MK and =LOST= were well aware that we would not support them if they went in for Polar or FOK. Just because we chose to attack TSO out of all the people who pre-empted our allies in MK and =LOST= does not mean we were clamoring for war. Next time try to put some context into the comments.

  14. AirMe

    Posted

    So wait, you're using the fact that TSO complained about reps being demanded by someone who didn't deserve it to demand more reps from them?

    Unfortunately it seems that your hegemonic aspirations are being helped by 'outrage fatigue', the same as people stopped complaining about Fark, or FAN, or Vox, or any of the other injustices that went on for months. You're 'evil' until you actually want to negotiate in good faith to come up with a reasonable peace settlement, not make terms so high they are designed to be rejected and then wave them around as a PR stunt.

    They dragged my alliance into a war that we weren't going to be in. Yep, clearly don't deserve them Bob. And our reps for TSO were never high to begin with. I have no hegemonic aspirations there Bobbo. Ronin has a minimal treaty web footprint and it will stay that way. You have more "hegemonic aspirations" than I do, in fact you have lived them. You sat back and bought tech for 18 months and feigned private support while the alliance I called home was in a daily fight not to get obliterated. When you have traveled the road I have traveled Mr. Janova, then you can come up with a new perspective on what it is that makes me tick.

  16. AirMe

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    Do alliances normally stop shooting when talks are underway? I've never seen that happen, at least with alliances I've belonged to.

    Now....

    About twenty-four hours before my alliance's front was closed, a general ceasefire was declared between Nordreich, Invicta, Olympus, etc. As I understand it, the reason for this was that terms had been reached but all the necessary signatures hadn't been gathered.

    If TSO launched attacks under similar circumstances, then you are probably correct to be annoyed. Otherwise, c'est la guerre I guess.

    There are no issues with the attacks themselves. It was the declaration descriptions themselves that I and others took exception to. Again, it goes back to respect and civility.

  25. Confusion

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    Yes, I understand that. My apologies If I have insulted you/your alliance, it wasn't my intention. But when you signed the Mutual Defense Treaty was it because you where going to defend them even if it meant going to Hell and back or because of the reps? Your alliance came in because of a Defense Treaty, you guys didn't get attacked thus you are not in your right to demand reps. Is it that hard to rebuild on your own?

    Yes, we would have defended our allies whether reps were in the cards or not. People do not sign or honor treaties depending on the size of reps they receive or will have to pay in the future.

    We are taking as much damage as C&G. And we wouldn't be in this war if it wasn't for TTItD. I'm not entitled to anything and probably won't even partake in reps for my personal nation because there are others in my alliance who have taken a crap load more damage than I have.

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