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Best of luck to OSA members in their new home.

[quote name='Rush Sykes' timestamp='1330611161' post='2931231'] Ok guys, the line to pay reps to GOONS begins over there! On a scale of 1 to stupid, this action was Fernando. [/quote] You made my day.

[quote name='Charles Stuart' timestamp='1330556958' post='2930819'] Oh the hypocrisy. I am sure NPO would have preferred to have had the same mercy shown a year ago. [/quote] You're really not that smart, are you? Or are you deliberately being obtuse?

[quote name='BloodFury' timestamp='1330546185' post='2930720'] Well, if GOONS can't fight, what is stopping you from honoring your MDoAP with MONGOLS? [/quote] Because he knows his alliance won't get anywhere near as lenient of terms as they did from Non Grata.

[quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1330480149' post='2930316'] Actually it proves that I have a history of working with my allies and arriving at diplomatic solutions, or are you going to try to justify \m/'s government calling grub racial slurs and generally making a bad situation worse for themselves? Are you going to blame us for what happened to \m/? We weren't allies, we owed you nothing. [/quote] To be fair, it wasn't our government who called him racial slurs. If it was they would have been relieved of their position on the spot.

[quote name='ktarthan' timestamp='1330477935' post='2930277'] Thanks, I needed a laugh. [/quote] Are you my daddy?

[quote name='BDRocks' timestamp='1330476427' post='2930265'] 16/22 in Anarchy but only down <50k ns. Putting up a decent fight. [/quote] They are indeed. We haven't fought against a competent alliance since NSO and it's a rewarding experience.

[quote name='MitchellBade' timestamp='1330452818' post='2930068'] Oh no please, [i]you[/i] continue trying to spin this story. I made popcorn. [/quote] Hard to spin something as simple as the Mongols sending war aid to someone they had no official protection over and then getting rolled for it when they came up drastically short in diplomatic efforts. I'm not surprised that certain individuals have chosen to make this about the practice of tech raiding itself. That, however, isn't the issue here. Let's not pretend that it is for the sole, and half-assed, reason of taking political pot shots. If you were in the same position you would react the same way. And if you wouldn't, that testifies to the quality of leader you would be. Which, to clarify, would be a very poor quality.

[quote name='MitchellBade' timestamp='1330410535' post='2929818'] You read Schatt's topic and still think you're right? Just how bliss is this ignorance that you folks wallow in? [/quote] [i]whoosh[/i] I'll let you try again.

[quote name='trimm' timestamp='1330409901' post='2929811'] Why don't you go take your air of superiority and go shove it somewhere pal? Argument over my foot. Who the frak put you in charge of deciding when the debate is over? Last I looked, folks didn't need to be in the same alliance or have a treaty to do something. Moldavi Doctrine for the win and all that? [/quote] It doesn't even matter what you just spouted in this post I just quoted. I didn't even read it. There's nothing left to debate. You're certainly welcome to keep going WHAT IF or BUT WHAT ABOUT and YEAH WELL THIS COULD MEAN all day but we're right, you're wrong. Deal with it.

[quote name='trimm' timestamp='1330409379' post='2929805'] Did MONGOLS make a strategic miscalculation in aiding a GOONS raid target? So it would seem. Did GOONS really have a justification for rolling MONGOLS over the fact that GOONS decided to raid someone who happened to have some friends willing to help rather than a total n00b? Color me unconvinced. [/quote] Their friend wasn't a member of their alliance or officially under their protection. Argument over.

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1330409231' post='2929802'] I'll take it as a "never". Also, pro-tip: "shut up" replies never work and just make you looks like someone who hasn't anything valid to say. [/quote] You can take that however you want. Allah knows you always do.

[quote name='trimm' timestamp='1330408664' post='2929794'] So, if I understand you correctly, this whole war essentially comes down to GOONS saying, "If you fight back in a raid 1 vs 1, ok. But if you go get help, then we'll come down on you like a bag of hammers, just because we have somehow concluded it is in our best interests to do so." [/quote] I think what this all comes down to is a third party deliberately and knowingly interfered in a situation where the outcome for such interference wouldn't be good for them if they refused a universal diplomatic solution. Which they did. So here we are.

[quote name='Vanilla Napalm' timestamp='1330406910' post='2929773'] Eh, dude was part of \m/. T'was in the charter. [/quote] I wrote the damn thing, even. [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1330406995' post='2929774'] And since when \m/ respected their own charter? [/quote] Oh shut up. Please.

It'd be nice if you busted out some brains and then put them to use.

[quote name='Merrie Melodies' timestamp='1330404540' post='2929742'] +1 power up for Schatt Raiding alliances need to be consistent, that lack has given Schatt his opening here. All tech raids are wars, all wars are tech raids, it really is simple. [/quote] Honestly, I agree.

Can I get an Abortion Disco tee shirt?

Well this is fantastic. Thanks. Waiting for the inevitable foot-in-mouth response from ChairmanHal.

[quote name='Londo Mollari' timestamp='1330363514' post='2929323'] Nobody cares. That's the whole problem. [/quote] I care. I care deeply.

[quote name='trimm' timestamp='1330320075' post='2929048'] Yeah, because this isn't a total overreaction to the situation. [/quote] It really isn't.

Congratulations, Mongols. You've sealed your fate through your own incompetence.

[quote name='Lord Caparo' timestamp='1330309974' post='2928983'] So you acknowledge that you instigated this? [/quote] The Mongols (and now by extension, you) wouldn't be involved in the raid of that nation if they hadn't sent him aid. Now that they sent him war aid, even going so far as to label it 'Mongol Aid', they have committed an act of war against GOONS. We requested 18M in reparations and the Mongols have outright refused to pay. As a result of their provocation we will have to take extraordinary action because of their inability to conduct diplomacy despite our own attempts at it. Why is this so difficult to understand?

I'm willing to wager we have had as many TGEs and TAEs as we have UNSCs.

[quote name='Lord Caparo' timestamp='1330307154' post='2928952'] If i read it correctly, the aid sent was for the exact amount that the raided nation sent to the other nation when it attacked BTA. So why ask them to pay 300% rates? [/quote] What? We're not BTA. We actually want the cost of damages done covered.

[quote name='death from above 82' timestamp='1330305227' post='2928925'] Bitburg is a little frustrated- he has done everything you ask. My guess, this was going to be the outcome since the beginning. [/quote] Apparently you don't understand that if you paid the 18M the situation would have been resolved.