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[quote name='Michael von Prussia' timestamp='1296342614' post='2610044']
I assume this was directed at me.
Basically, OOC - as in real life - while I oppose war, I see that it is sometimes justified, and in rarer cases necessary. IC, I suppose I look at it in a similar way. However, looking at wars [i]in Cyber Nations[/i] from an OOC perspective, I just see them as entirely pointless, so... why bother? I know some people seem to think that it makes CN interesting and find it fun or what not, and while I suppose it does encourage drama and politicking, I can't say that I find staying up to all hours of the night, being locked out of CN around update, and clicking buttons to destroy people's pixels to be enjoyable.
I play CN for the community and the roleplay, and I can have both just fine without war. Of course, I could have both without CN to an extent, but that's why I still play regardless: because I get some menial enjoyment out of pixel-hoarding. I suppose the only thing that's kept me out of a neutral alliance is the fact that when I've been inclined to switch alliances, I tend to pick alliances where I know at least some people, and GPA's never fit that bill (that and I have a really nice trade circle that's not on Green
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Anyway, if you enjoy war, all the power to you. Go blow each other up. If my nation gets dragged into it, so be it, but I'm not going to come onto the OWF and promote war, since it's not enjoyable to me. I also don't get why certain people, such as flak attack (picking on you since you were the first person to post the opinion in this thread
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That's fair enough. I wouldn't say you're ruining the game though, as far as I'm concerned the people who are 'ruining' the game are the alliance leaders who wield substantial amounts of power yet have no ambition to throw it at someone. Lone players rarely have much impact on how the game is played in the grand scheme of things. -
[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1296337505' post='2609932']
I suppose what they meant with the name "[i]Mostly Harmless[/i] Aliiance", is you don't need to worry about them doing anything, unless an alliance gets aggressively attacked and MHA thinks they have a sure victory. You guys ignored your treaty with NPO in the Karma War because you claimed to act based on what you think is right, but now you seem to think NPO getting attacked without needing a reason other than they still exist is what your alliance will fight for. There are far more dangerous enemies they should worry about than an alliance who already surrendered, payed record reps and moved on to trying to survive after their allies like MHA betrayed them for what now seems to have been nothing other than wanting to be on the winning side, who are always willing to disregard morals or support unprovoked aggressive if needed.
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...yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what they were going for with the name. Nice one. -
So do you think war sucks IC or OOC?
I ask because this is in the OOC forum and I'm not sure if you're speaking IC or OOC. -
[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1296336497' post='2609910']
Oh sorry, I'm a bit dumb sometimes
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That's quite alright, everyone has their moments(Especially me) -
[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1296335053' post='2609884']
But when your opponents do it, it's poor planning.
I don't get it.
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I was being satirical. -
[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1296334781' post='2609873']
[color="#0000FF"]I've interacted with Sparta and MHA both since early 2007. Trust me, I know them better than most.[/color]
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We're allied to them and have been for 2 years, but if you say so! -
[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1296334337' post='2609865']
[color="#0000FF"]Oh, there are people I respect, and some alliances I consider to be quite close to, but they are deserving of that respect and closeness. MHA and Sparta have demonstrated no virtues at all, and embody both the definitions of spinelessness and opportunism. You would have to be a fool to think anything else about them.[/color]
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If I am a fool in your eyes so be it, it doesn't matter to me or anyone else who knows better. -
[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1296333942' post='2609850']
[color="#0000FF"]Well, that's a load of crock if I've ever seen it. Respect, closeness, rubbish. But other than that, I agree completely. You guys are not stupid. Sparta and MHA are both useful puppets, and have no personal ambitions. Keeping them around and working for you helps keep you on the top. You'd have to be completely stupid to want to go after them, which you aren't.[/color]
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They may be alien concepts to you but not to us. -
[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1296332997' post='2609825']
Keep trying and eventually you'll come up with something witty to say someday, but I'll probably of already stopped reading your posts long before then if you continue garbage posting constantly. Have something of substance to say before responding to me next time.
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What would be the point in responding with something of substance to something equally devoid of substance?
You claim that we will come after MHA and Sparta when they're "no longer needed" clearly you have no idea how close we are with them and how highly we value them as our allies. We most certainly will not abandon them as I am sure is the case with their allies, so might I suggest brushing up on the foreign affairs of others before you make a fool of yourself again, tia. -
[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1296332550' post='2609820']
I am very disappointed in MHA to be supporting the clear aggressive actions shown against NpO and NPO, who were both not looking for trouble. When eventually someone decides its time for them to take MHA's top spot, I don't think anyone will care if they declare without a CB considering you know whats going on and support those who want to destroy NPO at all costs just so they can try maintaining full control over the cyberverse.
The side MHA and Sparta are fighting for will never respect you guys as anything more than a meatshield, once you aren't needed for that anymore I'm sure they'll come for you top spot. [b]Consider your MHA treaty with NPO was written so it can't be canceled, it still exists with you guys choosing to ignore that existence.[/b]
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Keep grasping Methrage, I'm sure you'll find those straws soon enough! -
[quote name='Bilrow' timestamp='1296332105' post='2609807']
The Foreign Division
Total Nations: 155
Total Defensive Wars: 106
Peace Mode: 72
Nations in War Mode: 83
Total Available Defensive Slots: 249
[b]Defensive Slots not Filled: 143[/b]
We Are Perth Army
Total Nations: 68
Total Defensive Wars: 84
Peace Mode: 10
Nations in War Mode: 58
Total Available Defensive Slots: 174
[b]Defensive Slots not Filled: 90[/b]
Colossus
Total Nations: 62
Total Defensive Wars: 62
Peace Mode: 19
Nations In War Mode: 43
Total Available Defensive Slots: 129
[b]Defensive Slots not Filled: 62[/b]
Total:
[b]Defensive Slots not Filled: 295[/b]
You were saying?
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It's strategy. -
[quote]Those of you who are not of Doomhouse and feel your faith again has any meaning or relevance to your governance here upon Bob. Now is the time to call to the righteous side. Stand with the innocent in this matter and make it known that such actions of bullying and attempts to end this beautiful planet of ours will not go without justice. In the end, we will seek to be more benevolent than we were treated when we were humbled in Karma.[/quote]
Oh hey look another desperate Pacifican, how pitiful. You call for others to come and assist you, yet your allies continue to sit on the sidelines/declare war on the smallest target possible. I guess this has always been the ethos of the New Pacific Order; getting others to fight your battles for you.
Have you no shame? -
[quote name='The MVP' timestamp='1296265076' post='2608266']
So the admitted setup of Polaris in order to enter in to hit Pacifica, admitted by your government and bragged about for being able to do it due to the political positioning, doesn't say anything to you? Do you just blissfully ignore the face of truth in order to protect it by a vanguard of lies to further your own agenda?
I guess you are right about the second part, you are neither.
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That's more like it! Although nobody admitted to setting Polar up (apart from Lennox), especially not my government. -
[quote name='The MVP' timestamp='1296264552' post='2608249']
Actually no I'm accusing Ardus of being the same opportunistic coward he was then as he is now.
And no I don't think you're unbiased don't try and act like you aren't.
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Okay, let's see some evidence of that. So far you've convinced no one(even the people you were aiming to convince), when that happens it's probably a good time to break out some evidence in favour of your point.
Of course I'm not objective, I am however correct. -
[quote name='The MVP' timestamp='1296263681' post='2608235']
I come off looking like a fool? Says who the hordes of Doomhouse/VE outcries? Of course you would, I would expect nothing less. Instead of giving you walls of text by which you will reject anyways no matter how coherent and well presented the argument is, I give you a quote from the horse's mouth. And it's still not good enough. This wasn't for you, and I knew how you would all react before I decided to make this topic.
Don't think just because you all have flooded the topic with negative comments that I would have changed a single thing.
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If I had no affiliation to Doomhouse I would've said the same thing. You've basically created a thread revolving around one quote from Ardus in which he admitted that he was an opportunist coward.
You are mocking someone for something they already admitted. Are you capable of seeing how absurd that is? I'm not responding to you because I'm trying to defend Ardus, I'm responding because the whole premise for this thread is terrible. -
[quote name='The MVP' timestamp='1296262749' post='2608210']
You're losing your touch. Make a valid point -> Accuse them for not being logical.
Oh silly me.
Ardus himself said it. You know what I don't get? You guys fighting tooth and nail denying it all. I mean the guy said it himself, you want the thread the link and everything?
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I don't really care what you think of Ardus. You're incapable of forming a reasonable argument for your case beyond "he said it himself" as such you come off looking like a fool.
But by all means carry on, don't let that stop you. -
[quote name='The MVP' timestamp='1296262275' post='2608202']
Just because I repeat something he himself admitted it's not true? Oh will the MK propaganda machine ever end? You flood every thread you don't approve of just to avoid truths. Go ahead what else is there?
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Actually I was looking for some kind of logical argument from you. Silly me. -
[quote name='The MVP' timestamp='1296201184' post='2607158']
So let me ask, does it surprise you at all that Ardus has ascended so high up on the ranks of MK? After all, his signature was put down on the MK declaration of war.
Was that a move an[b] opportunistic coward[/b] would make?
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[quote name='The MVP' timestamp='1296230711' post='2607486']
I'm many things but am I an [b]opportunistic coward[/b]?
Nope.
Is Ardus an [b]opportunistic coward[/b]?
Yup.
If GW II was enough for you all to rally to give Legion grief, why isn't it enough to give grief to an admitted [b]opportunistic coward[/b] who acted out of cowardice again dating back to the noCB? Oh wait, this thread is [i]opposed [/i] to you guys. Kind of like how I called VE out for being hypocrites was mocked out of my own thread and guess what everyone calls VE now?
I tell how it is before anyone else does. Ardus isn't a bad man, that would be giving him way too much credit. But is he an [b]opportunistic coward.[/b]
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Yup.
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[quote name='The MVP' timestamp='1296236052' post='2607576']
You'd rather have an [b]opportunistic coward[/b] leading you?
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[quote name='The MVP' timestamp='1296248078' post='2607896']
Bingo!
Ardus the so just and honorable [b]opportunistic coward.[/b]
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[quote name='The MVP' timestamp='1296257568' post='2608095']
How clever. As I nom your tears I await the oh so honorable, [b]opportunistic coward[/b] to deny what he truly is.
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Just because you repeat it ad nauseum doesn't make it true, and might I suggest investing in a thesaurus. -
[quote name='Bionic redhead' timestamp='1296237108' post='2607602']
[IMG]http://i56.tinypic.com/30c9fsw.jpg[/IMG]
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Oh good, [i]another[/i] motivational poster. We were running low on these, thanks. -
You people have an issue with just about everything don't you [img]http://fi.somethingawful.com/images/smilies/emot-bang.gif[/img]
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[quote name='HHAYD' timestamp='1296103539' post='2604442']
Pre-emptive attack on NPO in fear of NPO joining the war, yes, I know that. My statement was pointed towards people who assume that NPO still deserved to get rolled even if they didn't plan on joining the war.
Besides, I see Doomhouse's DOW nothing more than a statement of; "Because we don't like you, that's why."
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No, that's not what mpol was saying. You have not read the thread and as such I feel no need to continue arguing in circles with you. -
[quote name='Locke' timestamp='1296103305' post='2604400']
Yes, clearly MHA will realize the error of their ways and bow before his words; it is a most effective strategy!
No, Zzzptm's no fool, I don't think he he believes this thread would turn the tide of MHA's opinion away from war, if that is where they are inclined; his purpose is simpler.
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I don't really think he believes that either. You'll have to forgive me for my previous post, sometimes I struggle to find the correct words to get my point across and as such end up covering all other potential arguments before coming to my conclusion. I am well aware of what his main purpose is, I'm just having trouble wording it (It is almost 5am in Anubia and it has been a very long day) -
[quote name='Mirreille' timestamp='1296101783' post='2604172']
A few more efforts:
[IMG]http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu335/Mirreille/villains-fantastic_mr_fox.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu335/Mirreille/remodel.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu335/Mirreille/DoomedHoue.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/uu335/Mirreille/thethreelittlewolvesandthebigbadP.jpg[/IMG]
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I like these, especially the last one. I can see it being a popular childrens book in Francograd one day. -
[quote name='HHAYD' timestamp='1296101212' post='2604157']
So that make's it okay to punish someone twice for a crime?
Alliance: "For tech raiding one of our members, you must pay $9 million."
Raider: "Okay. I'm sorry for what I've done. Sending my cash."
Alliance: "No problem."
[i]-About two years later-[/i]
Alliance: "WE'RE GOING TO CURBSTOMP YOU!"
Former raider: "What did I do?"
Alliance: "For your past crimes."
Former raider: "But that was nearly two years ago, and you already punished me..."
Alliance: "Fine, because $%&@ you, that's why."
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You haven't read the FAN DoW yet have you? Perhaps that will give you some perspective.
War Propaganda
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He does have a point. In fact I would love it if everybody did decide to create their own radio show.