Leerjet

[quote name='Balder' timestamp='1334616226' post='2954483'] Yes, this makes sense. Your clairvoyance must serve NG well. [/quote] It obviously was a joke, now thats something you can never understand.

The next big micro of course! http://www.cybernations.net/stats_alliance_stats_custom.asp?Alliance=Northern Emergence Pact

Here I was thinking this was a protectorate announcement from GOD on this guy http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=245296

News feed of the day: Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention. I've just been handed an urgent and horrifying news story. I need all of you, to stop what you're doing and listen. "Shocking disasters have struck the planet Bob, the SWORD alliance has now seemed to have merged into Kaskus, thus improving their strength by the dozens. I'm leerjet and that is your news for the day. Go $%&@ yourself San Diego.

This whole thing makes me want to swallow rocks and try to piss them out.

[quote name='Muddog' timestamp='1334348162' post='2952387'] Let's be honest, they were already getting their ass kicked, there is only so much damage that you can do to them. One the other hand you can continue to damage yourself both pr and total cost of this pointless war. [/quote] We don't need PR to be boosted from our enemies...C'mon now. If our allies are happy, I would think our leadership was happy.

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1334346679' post='2952379'] The stupidity of 5 alliances declaring war on 20 nations is already under discussion elsewhere [/quote] If thats what you were able to manage from my statement then you're clearly a $%&@tard. You're just mad because you realize kaskus/mongols will now get what they deserve...an ass kicking.

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1334344757' post='2952355'] I guess that's why you guys declared 5 wars last night. [/quote] Just picture a couple hundred little kids going into a candy store all for 10 willy wonkas candy bars, then this will all make more sense to you.

[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1334343783' post='2952347'] Kaskus/Mongols aren't out to destroy or take anything away from GOONS, so what are you defending GOONS from? Defend GOONS from not having the ability to extort money from Kaskus/Mongols? [/quote] We are defending GOONs in the current war at hand obviously. Not everything needs a symbolical placement on it. [quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1334343322' post='2952344'] So the DH plan is to intentionally kill off those 2 alliances, something we havent seen attempted in years. [/quote] Oh yes, you have it all right! Which ego are you right now? (rhetorical question) Obviously the one that can't read.

[quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1334342776' post='2952337'] They got Umbrella to announce a DoW for one guy. If Umbrella had so little to offer as you claim why get them do embarrass themselves publicly by announcing a DoW to fight one guy that could have been in range of a goon had he done a small amount of bulking up? [/quote] This I believe was due to the amount of NEW nations and others coming into Kaskus and assisting. Which pretty much has put an end to the amount of nations hopping on over to Kaskus. [quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1334343212' post='2952342'] You might still be here, but people won't forgot what you guys have done here and how Pandora's Box operates. Any incompetent alliance can sign a lot of treaties, it doesn't make them entitled to anything like GOONS thinks it does. That you guys are enabling a weak alliance to abuse other alliances due to having a lot of treaties will reflect very badly on all of you guys and will lose you guys a lot of respect. [/quote] How we operate? In that, we defend our ally in times of need? We're terribly bad people. (note my sarcasm) They are entitled to know that they have their allies in times of need and that we will be there for them, but I guess you don't have any treaties where you're certain your ally will be there for you. Do you want GOONs to apologize for having allies? lol

[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1334342655' post='2952336'] When GOONS needs all of you guys in order to help them try extracting reps, its them who lose all respect. If you guys want this to end, you need to do something about GOONS, not Kaskus/Mongols. I think Mongols have said they are willing to give $3m, which is the amount they gave to one of GOONS tech raid victims, which is more than generous considering GOONS deserve nothing. [/quote] If that's all their willing to give, then war will continue on...No need to drag this into a 20+ page thread about how they need to offer less reps when clearly all MONGOLS will give is 3mill. Neither side wants to budge, so war will continue on. They will have died and meanwhile NG, GOONs, Umbrella, FOK, and VE will still be here.

[quote name='Methrage' timestamp='1334342180' post='2952333'] GOONS have even said themselves it would of been impossible for them to fight and win this on their own, hence they asked Umbrella for help. When that wasn't enough, now they bring in the rest of Pandora's Box. [/quote] Whats sad to say is you guys actually thought Umbrella could do something....Who were they able to attack? Maybe one. Had all of Kaskus been upper tier this would've been done long ago, but they weren't and now they are all mid tier and lower tier, so of course Umbrella isn't going to be enough. PB was brought in to bring this to a close, as we all know this has gone on way too long. If MONGOLs/Kaskus don't want to surrender, then thats their choice, and they will lose and eventually have nothing left, while other hand, we will have barely lost anything. If they're smart, they will offer a reps amount (i would say 80mill), which potentially would be accepted, and in the end they will have gained respect. whereas if they continue you on like this, they will eventually lose everything and not have any diplomatic respect. They may be warriors, but what're warriors without a few good diplomats? Meaningless.

Have to appreciate all the haters in this thread. Must mean PB is doing something right. Oh and to all you critics of GOONS: GOONs could've handled this situation on their own, however it would've dragged on for far too many months causing an impeccable amount of damage. But instead they decided, hey, lets use our treaty, since we HAVE ALLIES, and minimize the damage for us, and allow us to rebuild quicker! Now while this does spread the damage to the rest of PB, it will be minimal and easy to recooperate. So go on, and cry about it, its all you guys know how to do.

[quote name='Courland' timestamp='1334325871' post='2952162'] Well, congratulations Pandora's Box. You will be fighting a war solely to obtain reparations for your ally who is fully capable of ending their illegal [b]offensive[/b] war at any time. Reparations which, I might add, will not even begin to cover the continued cost of this war. And, no matter how many large alliances declare on two micros, the fact remains that we still have the same number of offensive slots as we did at the beginning of the war. But welcome to the grind house! Where your dongs are my dongs, infra has a way of disappearing, and in the end you accomplish nothing no matter what the result. [/quote] What I find so funny about this is, MONGOLS has done nothing in this war...Absolutely nothing. Maybe post about 60 ^(*%ing announcements. You guys lost like 300k ns within a matter of what, 2 weeks and did barely any damage. Also: Do you really think NG, MK, and FOK give a damn about infra? NG is constantly raiding guys who nuke back, so I don't think we could really give a damn about losing a few thousand infra potentially to whip you guys.

Time to flex the muscles. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1ZelzzkePc

[quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1334296207' post='2951972'] By this, I assume you mean all 3 days you have been in NG? I love you man, can't get enough of you acting all tough and whatnot to fit in with the big boys. Loving the sig as well. Your obsession with me is at that nice point right now where it is mildly amusing to sit through. I can only hope that it doesn't get stale for at least another couple of weeks. [/quote] Just because he's only been in NG for 3 days, doesn't mean he hasn't had hate for Kaskus and wanted to shoot off nukes on them for a while now? I didn't know you had to be in NG to want to shoot nukes off at Kaskus? But I guess your brain only allows you to think things through so far.

[quote name='Merrie Melodies' timestamp='1334295037' post='2951941'] It shouldn't be difficult to understand, VE is anti tech raiding, VE is fighting a war whose root cause is tech raiding, VE is hypocritical of itself. [/quote] This statement is invalid. What's the difference between "military training excercises" and tech raiding? Not much really, other than the name. Both serve the same purpose.

[quote name='Yevgeni Luchenkov' timestamp='1334293924' post='2951918'] Well, I'm just going off from the OP. OOC: The only range where Umbrella-GOONS are weak is the 18k to 54k range (essentially large middle tier). However, Kaskus-Mongols don't really have anything above 33k. In the 15-33k range, they have 10 nations. Umbrella has four. GOONS has 49. [/quote] out of the 49 GOOns has in that range, how many have full wonders, nukes, and warchest of 200mill?

[quote name='Skippy' timestamp='1334292564' post='2951875'] Fair enough, however was it necessary to bring in the whole bloc, rather than just bring in one more alliance that can handle the middle tier? Such as having either MK join in like I said, due to their middle tier, or have FOK actually commit more than two wars? Bringing the whole bloc for the two micros looks kinda embarrassing to me. I'd be keeping away from the diplomatic department if I were you Leerjet, you're not the best at answering questions without seeming like an ass. I asked a question because I wanted an answer, as I did not know the answer, hence the question. Sardonic seems capable of answering without being an ass, you should take note. [/quote] Was I trying to be a diplomat? No, I prefer being an ass. Considering you should know the answer to such a redundant question.

[quote name='Xiphosis' timestamp='1334292182' post='2951859'] Loving that out of the entire bloc, VE's doing all your work for you. True unity. [/quote] Its more of a, whose on first, gets the nation kind of thing. Heres the analogy: Going to a rodeo, all the kids get to do the calf scramble. theres 100s of kids, but only 3 can get the 3 calfs out there. Rundown of the analogy: We're 100s of kids trying to get the few calfs out there to get that prize baby...prize being MOAR casualties.

[quote name='Skippy' timestamp='1334291656' post='2951848'] Now now, can't I ask a simple question without that attitude? Then what was the point in bringing Umbrella in at all? You might as well bring MK in to fight, isn't that supposed to be their range? [/quote] A simple question which lacks intelligence? No you cannot ask an un-intelligent question. Umbrella knocked their members down some and was then, out of their range. In their declaration most of it included [i]only[/i] aid if I am correct. Which has been seen through the foreign aid offer screen.

[quote name='Skippy' timestamp='1334291183' post='2951838'] Just out of curiosity, how come Umbrella wasn't enough to counter this? [/quote] Oh maybe because everyone in MONGOLS = 10k ns and below everyone in Kaskus is = 33k and below. But I guess avg NS in Umbrella of over 100k wouldn't mean anything when trying to fight their nations.

Into battle we will ride, and into battle we shall prevail. o/ NG o/ VE o/ GOONs o/ FOK o/ Umbrella

[quote name='sigelopisan' timestamp='1334115455' post='2950977'] - PR wise this is hurting GOONS sigelopisan said : really? I thought GOONS is winning this war? Winner should gain PR boost, otherwise, why burn infras? for what? for fun? Only Kaskus or maybe NEW willing to burn infra for fun. [/quote] Hate to say it, but there are more than Kaskus and NEW willing to burn infra for fun. Non Grata for sure is one of them!

[quote name='Lurunin' timestamp='1334247714' post='2951494'] how's it different from MK sending aid and UMB/NG conducting tech deals with you guys while there's a war going on? also any proof that it was authorized is another thing either way wrong thread for all this..there's wat...5? other threads about this issue. congrats again to TPF and the commies [/quote] There is a difference as UMB has already came out and said they are going to help GOONs. edit: spelling