berbers

[quote name='Micheal Malone' timestamp='1311027108' post='2758729'] See Haf knows me. I never roll with a warchest, ever. I'm just that way. You are incorrect here. I never once asked for aid. Sure I accepted it, I'm not an idiot. You see, I'm quite like that awkward kid in the family. The one that always lands himself into stupid sitations, and then my siblings and parents just simply roll their eyes and go "Again??". And I'm fairly sure I haven't whined or insulted you at all here. In fact, I really haven't said much of anything at all here. [/quote] I apologize for my 2nd "whaaa" comment, I believe you when you say you didn't ask for it. The other 2 stand however

[quote name='Penlugue Solaris' timestamp='1311026315' post='2758721'] the backpedaling starts [/quote] I really don't understand how I'm backpedaling with that post...

[quote name='Penlugue Solaris' timestamp='1311024370' post='2758697'] itt we see berbers decide to go nuke rogue congrats [/quote] I'm no deciding anything, I'm just stating a fun fact about the differential in our WC sizes.

[quote name='Stewie' timestamp='1311024771' post='2758702'] If you go nuke rogue berbers I take that as a direct nuclear attack upon Non Grata by NATO. [/quote] Exactly how would me nuking a nation that attacked me be going nuke rogue? Also, wtf why are NG such retards, I mean ffs I don't even care if he nukes me, it's a war, people get nuked. whaaa, whaaa we aren't going to let this go beyond 7 days. Whaaaaaa, I don't have enough money, aid me guys, Whaaaaa, don't nuke him Berbers, pretty please? You guys are pathetic, and I was called a whiner. He attacked me ffs, take whatever I give and enjoy it.

[quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1311020302' post='2758623'] This is about two impotent failures waving their penises at each other and thinking it makes them look big and clever. Sending bailout money to someone who's supposed to be taking on a 1v1 is not good sportsmanship, either. [/quote] Pssh, mine's so big it waves me.

[quote name='SirWilliam' timestamp='1310998182' post='2758423'] I don't know what's cuter here: berbers getting butthurt because he's getting his ass handed to him after an open challenge for a 1v1, or nutkase trying so hard to be edgy and stick it to NG by aiding berbers. [/quote] My butt is 100% painless, I'm having a blast

[quote name='bedeur' timestamp='1311017858' post='2758592'] 1v1 is what this should have been. Instead Malone ran to his alliance to get 9 millions and 6K soldiers in war aid. What a coward, what a disrespectful AA. When war was declared, despite being the one declared on, Berbers specifically asked us not to intervene and to let the two of them solve their problem. I didn't expect you guys to fall this low NG. No honor, no balls, no grata [/quote] It's ok Bedeur, I appreciate the sentiment but I was pretty sure some shenanigans like this would happen from the start. Casualties is the only stat worth collecting after all, so I get a jump on the rest of you before the next big war

Ohhh lots to reply to, best get started eh? [quote name='Jgoods45' timestamp='1310983606' post='2758352'] So I suppose you will reject the aid offer submitted to you by nutcase then eh? [/quote] It's already declined, you see I gave my word that if he attacked me it would be 1v1, and since I'm not a pre-pubescent little girl (which is giving NG to much credit, and an insult to little girls everywhere)I am going to stick by my word regardless what Mr. Malone does. [quote name='nutkase' timestamp='1310983709' post='2758353'] I offered it on my own accord, berbers did not ask or know of my intentions. [/quote] Thanks buddy, much appreciated but I had to decline [quote name='The Pansy' timestamp='1310983783' post='2758354'] Good luck with that berbers, its not going to end like you think though. [/quote] I have no expectations, I was attacked and will fight back until Mr. Malone surrenders or I cannot attack anymore. If he chooses to involve his AA or flee to peace mode after 7 days than it proves my point and I'm ok with that. [quote name='Jgoods45' timestamp='1310987423' post='2758367'] How would it not be their choice? Lets picture this, pretend I am a higher level government official in The Last Remnants (triumvir or minister), and let's pretend that you were attacked by a member of my alliance instead of Non Grata because he got called out by you in this thread to do a 1v1 with no alliance help. Would of been perfectly fine with me. The war would of lasted a week, and you both would of went your separate ways. This is completely acceptable to me. But then you make statements noting your intentions of re declaring war upon my member until he surrenders to you regardless of the amount of time it would take to achieve your goal. To me, this is unacceptable and that is when I would of pushed for our alliance to become involved in the situation and settle it once and for all. With force if it was necessary. An alliance always has the choice to back a member. Always. [/quote] He attacked me for OWF posts, I made no aggressive move towards him or his AA. I stated quite clearly it would remain a 1v1 should he attack me. I never once said I would attack him. I never once said this was a 7 day duel, nor was it sanctioned I do this by NATO. Like I said, I choose how long this war goes on, if NG feels like treating me as a rogue after 7 days that's their issue. Also, if NG needs to send him aid to beat me down, that's fine too. As a matter of fact, NG should probably have two more members attack me. That way they can guarantee I am out of range and maybe if you added all 3 warchests together they would have a decent one between them. I mean that by the way, no matter how much NG shows dishonour, I will not request aid from my AA. There are no rules here, simply men and little girls. You decide who is who. [quote name='Penlugue Solaris' timestamp='1310988795' post='2758369'] He could just, you know, [b]nuke[/b] you if you try that. If he wanted to, you would be destroyed in a week of fighting. he might not have any money left, but you sure wouldn't be in his range. 1250 NS in tech damage (assuming he does 50 each hit), then 2700 NS in infra (assuming he does 150 per hit), plus his already 7k advantage.. you aren't going to be sticking around to attack him next round if he so chooses. I wouldn't suggest trying that. [/quote] I can donate and rebuy 3999.99 infra from 0 with my cash on hand. Hell, I could buy up to 4999.99 and still have multiple times his WC. I could start winning GA's tonight if I so desired to spend my money that way. However, my main thought at this point is to simply turtle and spy his cash, lob CM's and dogfight. Once 7 days are up, he should be at or close to 0 dollars on hand, at which point I will buy alot of infra, re-declare and have every advantage but tech. Of course if he hides behind his AA or keeps receiving aid from outside, this plan becomes moot. I didn't really think someone who talked such a tough game would do either of the two, but you know, internet tough guy syndrome. [quote name='fant0m' timestamp='1310990398' post='2758379'] I sent the cash because he will need it to rebuild after, he didn't ask me for it and he doesn't need it to beat you. Good luck attacking our AA after this [i]agreed to[/i] duel though. I don't think you're going to get away with painting this as some kind of rogue attack. I would listen to Bob as well and realise he can just nuke you back to the stone age if he likes before throwing threats around. [/quote] You mean he can nuke me until his money runs out, which would be fairly quickly. I knew he had nukes when all this started, it didn't deter me before, why would it now? [quote name='erikz' timestamp='1310991250' post='2758384'] The problem is you start whining when you're being pwnd to pieces. Twas liek... anarchy after the first GA? [/quote] 1) How am I whining? I want to continue this war past 7 days...also I don't care if he nukes me, receives more aid or even calls in reinforcements. 2) Anarchy after the first GA is pretty easy when the following are at play: 20% soldiers, defcon 5, no tanks or aircraft, no guerilla camps or barracks. You see I figured he would give me a heads up before attacking, not that I mind, sneak attacks are certainly fair game. However, I did think I would get a PM arranging the fight. No worries though, I kinda thought I would be getting nuked, so I was expecting anarchy. [quote name='fant0m' timestamp='1310992454' post='2758394'] Do you really think he'll need more than he has to last a week? I just happened to have a tech deal expire that allowed me to send him some cash. That slot wouldn't have been there if I'd waited, gotta keep my slot usage up. [/quote] lol, cute. See above description of NG's gender and age. Edit: Ahahaha, you sent him 3M and [b]2000 soldiers[/b], was he going to use his soldiers as labour in his rebuilding? [quote name='Micheal Malone' timestamp='1310995300' post='2758406'] You have it wrong, I got a defeat message first GA, didn't even get to GA until after update when I gave him another Defeat, then redeployed to get my precious tech. All in all this will be fun. And as I said, I was never really an econ type of guy. Week is really all it should take and as was stated already, if you intend to be spiteful I'll oblige you. [/quote] Not spiteful, just going to have fun Also, just for the lulz, my wonder clock is up soon and I can buy an MP, 25 nukes and still have a bigger WC than you...

[quote name='Jgoods45' timestamp='1310983034' post='2758350'] That's if the powers that be allow you to do so. [/quote] He attacked me, it's not their choice. Also look at this tidbit: [quote]7/18/2011 4:54:11 AM "Financial Assistance" Steveonia Ruler: fant0m Non Grata Malonia Ruler: Micheal Malone Non Grata $3,000,000 0 Tech 2000 Soldiers Pending[/quote] Poor guy, attacked a much weaker, younger nation and still needs cash and soldiers from higher up. I got a good kick out of this, but as this is a 1v1 I will not be asking my AA to send me cash. Edit: To be fair, I don't need my AA to send me cash because I'm not incompetent.

[quote name='erikz' timestamp='1310978294' post='2758333'] Well then he shouldn't have bluffed or called you out. [/quote] Why not? he has a 28M warchest, I could just turtle and spy his cash away and probably bill lock him in 2 rounds... Edit: Also, this was an aggressive attack on my nation, and even though I won't involve my AA, this war ends when I choose it to. Not in 7 days, not in 14 unless I allow it. I will rebuy infra to get back into range if necessary.

[quote name='Micheal Malone' timestamp='1310961748' post='2758184'] Been a busy week with celebrating my best friends 40th birthday. I asked if you wanted to dance, you said your dance card is clear, so here we go. Edit: Oh and to clear up the "tech dealing" bit. After I rogued, then went into the last war, my infra levels weren't as high as they are now. And like a good alliance grunt, when below an infra level I sell tech. Now that I'm back at proper infra level, I buy tech. I did however have some outstanding tech deals to finish resolving. Clear as mud? Double Edit: Ouch, you got a defeat message... there goes my free tech. And don't worry, I'll even stay conventional just for you. [/quote] You have just conducted a spy operation against the nation of Malonia. In the attack your spy efforts were successful as your spies were able to gather the following information about the nation: Desired Religion: Voodoo Desired Government: Republic Threat Level: Severe Tax Rate: 30% Number of Spies: 100 Last Nuke Purchase: 6/29/2011 12:53:51 AM Last Wonder Purchase: 8/14/2010 Total Money: $[b]28,512,109[/b]Technology: 1,959.96 Levels Last Bill Payment: 7/18/2011 12:00:06 AM Trade Partners: Packersoft, Insel des Siegel, Belligerance, Cornouaille Secret Aid Sent To: None Total Aircraft: 70 Aircraft Fighter Strength: 612 Aircraft Bomber Strength: 18 Navy Purchases Today: 5 Navy Vessels: Corvettes: 2 Landing Ships: 2 Battleships: 2 Cruisers: 2 Frigates: 2 Destroyers: 0 Submarines: 0 Aircraft Carriers: 0 Your spies returned home unharmed and unidentified. With that WC, you will surrender first. I am not ending this conflict in 7 days, this conflict ends when you surrender. I can't beleive you even DoW'd with 28M... Edit: Bah, < 40% odds on my GA's , did em anyways for lulz. This will be fun!!

[quote name='Muddog' timestamp='1310917408' post='2757792'] With the way you people play, only when its no longer a gamble. [/quote] So much this! The next war will happen when a large enough curbstomp is lined up against a weaker, smaller opponent. Timelines mean nothing, only precious infra that must be preserved at all costs.

[quote name='The Pansy' timestamp='1310863299' post='2757445'] That was a call out/challenge in my book,later you confirmed you wont get your alliance involved. I wonder if you will be right, or if he will take up this opportunity and we get a nice popcorn moment. [/quote] Well we will have to agree to disagree, I wasn't challenging/calling him out, I just stated I was fine with an unjustified attack on me but in my opinion he didn't have the cojones to follow through. Anyways, enough with this conversation, it`s getting stale and uninteresting. Let`s just stop talking and see what happens

[quote name='The Pansy' timestamp='1310858320' post='2757410'] Paging Mr Malone, it seems we have a challenger. [/quote] I'm not challenging anyone, I have no reason to as stated above, I am not the one with something to prove. However I also stated I would have no problem fighting someone 1v1 so if Mr. Malones has something to prove and attacks me, then it will not expand beyond a 1v1 scope from my end.

[quote name='Penlugue Solaris' timestamp='1310849302' post='2757339'] Who is acting tough here exactly? Apparently not. [/quote] I never once stated I would have my alliance mates back me up, nobody asked the question. Your assumption that I would makes a certain 4 legged horse shaped animal out of you. Edit: Also, look at his nation compared to mine, even if he does decide to attack me 1v1, does it prove he isn't a coward? Beating on an inferior nation that doesn't even have nukes doesn't really shout "look at how brave and non-cowardly I am." Either way, I have no qualms about fighting anyone 1v1, my casualty count could use an increase

[quote name='Penlugue Solaris' timestamp='1310835883' post='2757273'] "You won't attack my alliance by yourself, you are a coward!" There's a difference between saying he'd fight you and saying he would fight your alliance, I suggest you challenge him to a fight yourself (without alliances being involved). [/quote] I'm not trying to prove anything, why would I challenge him to a fight? He's more than welcome to attack me however, if he's as tough as he says...

[quote name='fant0m' timestamp='1310729251' post='2756566'] If you agreed to it why on earth would he back away from a duel against a greatly inferior nation? Not to mention he has 10x your casualty count. [/quote] His nation is 1,297 days old and mine is 323. I would hope his casualties would be significantly greater than mine. Also, if he wants to attack me that's fine, but I somehow doubt he will. Internet tough guy, etc...

[quote name='Micheal Malone' timestamp='1310700566' post='2756430'] Care to dance? Or are you the kind of guy that just prefers to talk out of his ass like he knows what he's talking about? [/quote] I believe the correct response to this is "come at me bro" at which point you make excuses as to why you won't actually attack.

[quote name='d3filed' timestamp='1310694097' post='2756375'] C'mon guys, the only real winner here is me and my fellow raiders. Accept that and move on. [/quote] Really? Because from over here it looks like you guys were beating on a defenseless target for it's lunch money. The when someone told you to #@#$ off and leave them alone you ran like pre-pubescent girls.

[quote name='Il Impero Romano' timestamp='1310693045' post='2756365'] Hey now Monsignor Jesus, let's not get carried away with the angry talk since that's obviously not true at all. While I'm sure Tetris wouldn't have tried to impose protection retroactively, you're original war would have expired and their protection would be both valid and in full effect. Also, this thread is pretty funny, all things considered. [/quote] I think the best question is who VE would support...

[quote name='Jgoods45' timestamp='1310692521' post='2756359'] A nice summit where all us tech raiders can take down names and narrow it down to who we can raid and who we can't. TLR shall observe this event~ [/quote] What are you doing man!! You're going to be the first up against the wall when the superbloc of micros take over. o/ microbloc

[quote name='Sandwich Controversy' timestamp='1310692452' post='2756358'] I bet you thought this post was clever. [/quote] No, I thought it was appropriate.

[quote name='Sandwich Controversy' timestamp='1310678598' post='2756244'] Before you continue trying to look big, you are only able to protect this loser because I (and NG) allowed it. Had we not offered peace (entirely within my power!), I would be raiding NAAC right now and you couldn't do a thing about it. Even now I really doubt you'd protect him if it came down to it. [/quote] Why don't you raid NAAC and find out? Even now I really doubt you'd back up your opinion with action if it came down to it.

[quote name='Mr flubb' timestamp='1310689546' post='2756325'] Yes.... thats our secret agenda, to form a super massive micro bloc and rule the world muwhahahahaha.... oops, did i say that out loud? [/quote] I for one welcome our new Micro overlords! I hope you remember this early show of support when you are lining people up against the wall.

Haters gonna hate. Legion is awesome because I said so. Ave Legio.