Chief Stubbs

When I see my fellow former Vox Populi comrades support this, maybe I can. Until then, I can't help but see this as a cheap rip at the legacy of a great movement.

There was a period of time where no records were kept? That's because those of us in the Initiative were too busy being the most powerful force in Cyber Nations, and simultaneously slowly ripping ourselves apart.

[quote name='Earogema' timestamp='1296452171' post='2612292'] So...who won? [/quote] EDIT: Oh my, that individual's name is censored? I had no idea.

[quote name='Franz Ferdinand' timestamp='1296327153' post='2609711'] Well, as nobody else wanted to fight you guys, we might as well keep you company. Also, as a side note, SLCB didn't designate who would be the targets, that would have been me. Hopefully you guys have a nice collection of music. [/quote] If only nobody wanted to fight us because we were just that awesome. (But I know what the real reason is!) No but seriously, I do give thanks whether I get my ass kicked or not, this war has been dry for me.

Team Rocket is a two-man protectorate of SLCB. Basically, they gave a handful of \m/ nations who didn't really have any targets, some more people to hit. How very nice of them.

The outcome of this war is irrelevant. In the end, Pacifica will end up on top. That's just the constant rule of this world.

[quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1295995140' post='2601103'] If he ever worked for you, you'd understand that Stubbs is a phenomenon that is best experienced as a visual experience and not a verbal one...good alliance member, cares about \m/, wants what is best for the alliance, gives out ideas that either have you screaming at him to shut up because he persists at them to the point of annoyance or...have you doing this a lot: [/quote] And yet you cannot deny my entertainment value or my work ethic. Honestly, if people reviewed my ideas instead of latching right on, there wouldn't be so many facepalms, and instead fully fledged out concepts could come forth. Can't help my malignant excitability, myself

[quote name='zzzptm' timestamp='1296000775' post='2601273'] \m/ honored something and now they're done with it. I'm cool with that. [/quote] A completely positive response about both events? I'm....I'm at a loss for words. This man deserves a medal.

[quote name='SirWilliam' timestamp='1295996186' post='2601143'] This has been an odd ordeal. [/quote] And you got to have a part in it! I must say, though, it was, at least, nice talking to you about that whole idea.

[quote name='Earogema' timestamp='1295995781' post='2601127'] In fact, if it weren't for Marx, Stubbs, and Margrave doing something the rest of \m/ gov. didn't want, this whole thing wouldn't have happened and \m/ would just be an ally defending Rok. [/quote] This man is, in fact, telling the complete truth.

[quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1295994679' post='2601087'] Well I was only in the public chan, but from what I remember you suggested the attackorate. And I guess so, since these two incidents damaged \m/'s reputation immensely after you came out of the BiPolar war pretty well. [/quote] Three different ways to express "attack protectorate". And hey, I try.

WHAT'S THIS? I WAS NOT INFORMED! Probably the better decision.

[quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1295981822' post='2600614'] Heh, how surprising that this was Stubbs' idea too, just like the GGA attactorate. I wondered back then why Marx would go through with it and risk all his work on some lulz to appease inactive old members like that. Going along with dumb ideas on a whim is not a good way to run an alliance, Marx. [/quote] Was the GGA attacktorate my idea? I can't remember. Inactive? Medium activity, I'd declare. Perhaps the moral of the story is "Don't listen to Stubbs."

I'm still waiting for my slice of the "You are retarded" pie. My word, everyone goes after Marx for what he's done because he's screwed up in the past; how about Margrave and I? We were both equal conspirators in this.

[quote name='AlmightyGrub' timestamp='1295938898' post='2599335'] It is so 2010 IMHO. [/quote] Hey, I wasn't here for that. I deserve a piece of the party too, eh?

[quote name='James Dahl' timestamp='1295938360' post='2599302'] Welcome to the declared on two sides club \m/ [/quote] It certainly is dandy.

I would just like to say, we've taken all your responses into consideration, and we will process them to our Hu\m/an Resources department as quickly as possible. Thank you for your time and have a blessed day.

[quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1295934566' post='2598967'] Then you should be attacking N[b]p[/b]O. I'm also sure Rok loves that you are devoting your full resources to their front...on wait. [/quote] Well let's be fair, I was doing all I could to get first post and that was the first thing to pop into my mind

Re\m/e[m]ber the 19th of September!

[quote name='Vladimir Nikanor' timestamp='1295911542' post='2597287'] I give respect to those I do not know. Respect not out of action, but out of the unknown. That relationship may or may not change depending on future events. [/quote] If you respect me, then you are mistaken (is that true enough, Spoil? ). Without knowing a thing about me, you should not respect me; not in a negative sense, but rather in a neutral sense.

[quote name='Vladimir Nikanor' timestamp='1295911208' post='2597273'] Though I agree that may hold true for a significant portion of alliance members, I feel it is not true for everyone and that is the purpose of this. I know we have members that joined simply because they received a recruitment message. They're not very active, and likely can't recall much of our history upon immediate request. I see nothing wrong with that, and I'm sure many alliances have the same kind of people. [/quote] And those who are inactive are unlikely to care much about such a situation. IRT Spoil: I suppose I should clarify that that's how I view respect; if it's a lie for you, then by all means, freely give respect.

[quote name='Vladimir Nikanor' timestamp='1295910856' post='2597267'] Of course, but to call someone out for being (insert adjective here) because of something their alliance did (or something that happened to it) when that member was not present is preposterous. [/quote] The identity of the alliance goes a long way towards the identity of the individual. That's simply how this world works.

[quote name='Vladimir Nikanor' timestamp='1295909905' post='2597237'] The only way I could possibly see someone agreeing with every single opinion formed by the leadership of their alliance would be if they were running it. [/quote] You don't have to agree with every one, but the commitment you make to your alliance, as a member, implies that, even with the ones you disagree with, you stand by the decision. If you don't, then there are plenty of other alliances an individual could choose.

[quote name='PotFace' timestamp='1295909341' post='2597218'] I respectfully decline. Alliances are teams. A team is only as strong as its weakest link. Wars are not fought by individual members. When an alliance makes a political mistake, it suffers as a team. When an alliance prospers from victorious actions, it does so as a team. In a team, one person [i]can[/i] screw things up for the rest of the team. If a team leader has decided to lead a team into catastrophic failure, the rest of the team has the option to leave the team and join another team. I do not sympathize with your point of view. I don't even come close to sympathizing with your point of view. Sorry. [/quote] In effect: The alliance a nation ruler chooses to roll with reflects upon the ruler, for better or for worse.

We're not direct opponents, but... Paging Doctor Savage Man.