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[quote name='Confusion' timestamp='1306545911' post='2719246'] Well, what if no one joins, Does this turn into GR's fault? There aren't many AAs who can 'even' this out, mind you. Why don't you just attack another AA? [/quote] The main problem with that is that a large number of us have decided to attack two or three nations which leaves us with little offensive potential. So the ideal situation is that someone else cuts in by their own accord such that they can fill our defensive slots without simply having a go at us by preying on the weak or inactive. We'll see what happens - and if nothing does happen, we'll be happy to take the appropriate actions.

[quote name='Vespassianus' timestamp='1306497229' post='2718947'] Oh guys why didn't you hit this RD noob: http://tournament.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=1000315 ? He's the biggest infra hugger for rounds and now he even has an ADP... [/quote] Apparently he solo-flag runs for his SE alliance. Wouldn't want to ruin his chances, now.

[quote name='paul711' timestamp='1306293269' post='2717879'] I can respect your not wanting TPC brought up in mine and Laz's argument but he is issuing challenges and calling OP cowards while flying the TPC tag. [/quote] We'll deal with that. OP has my utmost respect.

Good catch. Strange how no one had mentioned it earlier.

[quote name='Samus' timestamp='1305409515' post='2711858'] Just like to say thank you to the dude that decided he could [i]defend[/i] TPC without a valid declaration. You will eat my nukes for the next 7 days. [/quote] Hahaha, if only you knew who that 'dude' is.

[quote name='Guppy Fish' timestamp='1305414396' post='2711886'] TPC and GR together hold all but one slot in the race, that being mine in attacking. Nice! [/quote] Very interesting stat - thanks for noticing.

[quote name='StevieG' timestamp='1304384105' post='2704510'] So in 3 defensive wars, If I GA all of them twice, and they GA me all twice, it is possible to lose 12 GAS per day, and drop millions in a single round of wars? [/quote] Of course, I'm sure you know how it all works. A quick calculation says that if you start with 2.17 mil and lose 5% to 12 GAs, you lose almost exactly 1 mil. Why you would GA them all twice with less than 50% odds, I have no idea.

[quote name='StevieG' timestamp='1304338620' post='2704077'] How is the loot left behind from an unsuccessful GA worked out? [/quote] Well, you can loot anything from 0% and 5%, and you can even loot over 5% by looting the 100k limit.

[quote name='StevieG' timestamp='1304313129' post='2703876'] With 3 wars, and 2 GAs each way, thats a potential 12 GAs I could lose per day. Think of that amount of loot . [/quote] That's why there's a 5% cap; you're never going to be sucked dry from GAs alone. Also, you wouldn't take on three aggressive wars anyway if the tactic is damage limitation. Some stats: It takes 32 fully successful GAs to drop from 5 mil to 1 mil. It takes 45 fully successful GAs to drop from 1 mil to 100k. It takes 14 fully successful GAs to halve your warchest.

[quote name='bcortell' timestamp='1304279745' post='2703312'] Yep, I believe it is. With the new rules, it's much easier to get nukes early, and so those people are free to use them. (Of course, unless the AA's decided not to.) [/quote] Yep, you've got to be pretty dedicated to invest in nukes with an HNMS or spies so early on... and what do you know? LE's most popular wonder at the moment is the HNMS.

[quote name='Thomasj_tx' timestamp='1304226084' post='2702965'] We ended up in a draw and decided that we would part as friends. [/quote] Whether you call it a draw, or a clear win or lose, the true measurement of the success of a war is how well you can get back on your feet after taking your blows and dealing your blows. Cheers to a great first war to kick off what will be a great round.

[quote name='Ferrie' timestamp='1304249126' post='2703114'] Its like this... The big guys picked on the little guys for the last 2 rounds. The little guys regrouped, got back to their core members, updeclared, and kicked your ass. Not a lot of intelligence goes into it. If you were winning, you'd be singing a different tune. We're willing to let this go as far as it needs to. You guys would have had a great chance against us if you would have protected your nukes.... You chose not to, and nearly all(but the 2 orange shot off(nj btw)) of yours got stolen. You knew we were coming, but did nothing to stop us. We fight. We dont turtle. We're Lafayette Escadrille. Any time. Any place. One on one with out your BS declarations on filler alliances, we'll either take our beating, or like in this case, hand one out. Win all the flags you want, but the win comes from winning the respect of TE. Which we've already done, and your far from.... [/quote] Amen to that

[quote name='Vol Navy' timestamp='1304235164' post='2703046'] This is a golden thread....G-6 kept declaring on LE and it was fine. LE declares once on G-6 and they suddenly can't let anything go? [/quote] Well, by the looks of things, I'd say they're taking a bit of a beating, don't you think? I dunno, maybe over taking 10 nukes in a 24 hour period into the second week of the round is just the norm. Kudos to LE.

[quote name='bcortell' timestamp='1304217545' post='2702879'] Also curious, what's the new limit for money on what a DA destroys? [/quote] 600k

[quote name='Guppy Fish' timestamp='1303670558' post='2698606'] His alliance seems to be techraiding everyone else indiscriminately... leading to its oblivion? [/quote] Well, I guess we'll have to deal with that

Alright, this is all really getting out of hand, sorry for that, it's meant to be 'not g-6's' topic anyway. Firstly: [quote]Your saying we shouldn't be proud and our guys shouldn't celebrate. I'll pass kind sir :3[/quote] No, not "we"; you yourself shouldn't be overly amazed by G-6's accomplishments as if it(/they) were something unprecidented. Doch was a guy that was quick to defend G-6 using whatever reason he could conjure up - you just somewhat remind me of him, that's all. ... and secondly, since good ol' Stevie's decided to join in the discussion: [quote]I let you off. That is how you got #2, and smashed our #1 #2 #3. You also said you dont shoot for #1, which you very clearly did at the end. While the rest of us couldnt collect, you could, and then tried to use that advantage. If Im ever involved in another flag run, I wont be that nice again. --- They didnt know who the rouge was until I went and told them after I had a change of heart. And we were kept in NA for the last week anyways.[/quote] [list][*]If you didn't "let [me] off", at least you and probably a few more on your end would have had their war slots filled for a good long time. [*]I don't shoot for #1 in the sense that I don't do this thing called 'flag-running' I build because I can build and I build to the end. I don't [i]need[/i] another flag - it's all another statistic as are my second and third place finishes, just for the record I've never since claimed a TE real life prize either. [*]"While the rest of us couldnt collect" - You can't be serious. Here you're talking about you yourself, despite collecting the most overall by a margin. Both #1 and very much so #3 were able to collect well past my radiation-cleanup-fallout-shelter-system collection; I'll leave you to find out who the #1 and #3 were. If I'm wrong - which I could be; back it up with some pics. [*]Either Confusion would have shed light on the issue or I or someone else would have thought it to be suspicious that a rogue who attacked me also attacked a rogue who attacked you. Not often you see a rogue hit a rogue, but interesting stuff. [*]Finally, yeah, you (as a group; not sure why you keep using the term 'we' to refer to yourself) were [i]in[/i] nuclear anarchy on the last day - won't deny that.[/list] That's my rant over. I don't have much more to say about the topic of G-6, even though I'm sure others will want to carry on. Good luck with your alliance, Roi Loup, it's clearly going to have a successful future.

[quote name='Frostfirefox' timestamp='1303591859' post='2697969'] 1 is all it takes buddy. It could be more but everyone was placing rogues at the end. You guys complain about rogues while we challenge them and brush them off. [/quote] Don't get me worng - Rudolf did a great job as obviously he was the one that managed to pull through the rest, just a shame the others didn't keep up. I rather like how sacred the flag seems to be in this game (good entertainment), however sometimes in my view, a few people just cross the line with their efforts - not my problem so long as I'm not involved; although that wasn't the case last round. All in all, if you could tone down the unnecessary omfgg6istehbest on the forums, that would be much appreciated. We don't need another Doch here.

[quote name='Frostfirefox' timestamp='1303584122' post='2697879'] Most people who flag run utilize rogues >.> If you want flag running to be a happy no war zone you will have to wait for G-6 and most other nations to stop playing. And besides you sneaking into 2nd place, G-6 obtained 1st, 3rd and 4th. [/quote] Yes, one G-6 member ended up with more NS than a non G-6. I'm not sure why you're proud about that.

[quote name='Thomasj_tx' timestamp='1303320995' post='2694723'] It is actually interesting that given all the game changes this round, the winner had a NS of 37,076.122 while the prior round winner was at 32,000.000. That is only a 16% difference. [/quote] To come back to this very briefly, taking me as an example, getting to 35k NS, I can only assume the guy the won round 15 hadn't managed 500k casualties nor taken 13 nukes or more with in the region of 5000-6000 infra damages, or even the equivalent second placed or third placed man? So taking these things into consideration, I think it's fair to say that there has been a visible improvement in quality due to the game changes.

[quote name='Frostfirefox' timestamp='1303534520' post='2697462'] In all my rounds, it was the most awesome flag run. Massive in scale leaving ruin to much. But organized enough to leave much room for victory to be achieved versus the masses. If I've learned anything it is, for people who claim to love war you are sure picky about it. [size="1"]You don't know it but Confusion is secretly pulling your strings as well.[/size] [/quote] You're missing the point, that while it was a successful 'flag run' for you, you had it relatively easy by being in wars where your larger nations aren't affected. I'm not sure you can really comment if you weren't one of the guys in G-6 'flag-running'. While we're at it, there are also other ways of acheiving first place other than utilising as many rogues as 'flag-runners' and damaging your own alliance's reputation. I can't stress how much of a loss it would have been for G-6 had a regular outsider won.

[quote name='lonewolfe2015' timestamp='1303505003' post='2696971'] Well, firstly in-game it still says 5. But since he said he took a day off, it's 4 days without bonuses, 3 with a shelter or kit, 2 with both. [/quote] We're trying to figure out what was meant in this post! [quote name='admin' timestamp='1303430372' post='2695989'] If you have fallout shelters and radiation cleanup, together those reduce the effects down to just 1 day now. [/quote]

[quote name='Guppy Fish' timestamp='1303498036' post='2696823'] It's reduced TO one day, not BY one day. [/quote] Wait, we need to clarify this. Days of nuclear anarchy without radiation clean up and a fallout shelter system: 4 Days of nuclear anarchy with radiation clean up and without a fallout shelter system: 3 Days of nuclear anarchy with a fallout shelter system and without radiation clean up: 3 Days of nuclear anarchy with radiation clean up and a fallout shelter system: ?

[quote name='admin' timestamp='1303430372' post='2695989'] If you have fallout shelters and radiation cleanup, together those reduce the effects down to just 1 day now. [/quote] And separately they have the same 1 day effect? Could there not be an added bonus for having both?

[quote name='Onified' timestamp='1303326467' post='2694782'] #7 was Koala of Arboreal Marsupial, member of the Fightin Division!!! (and I would have uploaded my sig as the flag if I had won) That was me by the way [/quote] Shame

[quote name='Thomasj_tx' timestamp='1303320995' post='2694723'] It is actually interesting that given all the game changes this round, the winner had a NS of 37,076.122 while the prior round winner was at 32,000.000. That is only a 16% difference. Conversely, #100 in Round 16 was at 9,258.506 NS and #100 in Round 15 was at 3,565.908 NS. Almost a 3 to 1 difference. [/quote] But look at the #40 NS for rounds 4-12, something unnatural occured in rounds 13-15 and I was even in round 13 and somehow ended up with 1k infra in second place, but I can't remember what happened.