R&R-Viking

These guys remind me a lot of the early days of R&R, honestly. Quiet, not really involved in the politics of the day, yet fairly good opponents. It's a shame we have to burn your village down.

[quote name='mindbullet' timestamp='1296801423' post='2619029'] Over 50 Wars *round of shots* here's to the next! o/ FHU [/quote] you seem like a nice guy, sorry about the nuke I just landed on you

[quote name='Supa_Troop3r' timestamp='1296788359' post='2618571'] I see you still talk don't talk out of your mouth, so. [/quote] what does this even mean

Man, did you guys just draw the short straw. Sorry 'bout that.

[quote name='SirWilliam' timestamp='1296746688' post='2617780'] I thought that was their DoE. [/quote] just as good IMO

[quote name='tamerlane' timestamp='1296063340' post='2602872'] I say our track record speaks for itself. [/quote] why do you think I've been calling you spineless

[quote name='tamerlane' timestamp='1296062138' post='2602853'] Would you like to point out what he was lying about rather than ask a rhetorical question in order to open the door wide enough to insert nonsense? [/quote] There's not a single rational person who was around during Karma that buys your statement that MK didn't portray itself as opposed to the very things you are doing now. There have even been members of MK, IN THIS VERY THREAD, who have used the excuse of MK changing from what it was during Karma to now. To claim that Karma wasn't fought to end "bullying" from the MK perspective is one of the most illogical things I've seen yet, and it insults those of us who had to endure the back channel discussions and logs during Karma when we disagreed with you then. I realize that by answering my statement the way you did was your cute way of hedging your bets in the PR war, but none of us are that stupid. We know that what Archon said publicly then stands in stark contrast to what you're saying now.

facepalms all around

[quote name='tamerlane' timestamp='1296058975' post='2602786'] Karma was not fought to end bullying or war so stop asserting that is was. [/quote] So your precious Archon was lying? I guess that's better than being spineless and not wanting to do the hard work against NPO like some of us did.

[quote name='ktarthan' timestamp='1295993165' post='2601000'] I don't know where I ever said it was going to shake things up. I think the current war was doing that just fine. The reason I support this war is because it brings me joy. However I am sure that the reason for each and every DH member is unique like a precious snowflake. This was for us. Not for you.[/quote] Well it does make me happy in a way, so unintended consequences and all that. I don't think it's going to end like you think it is, though.

[quote name='Owned-You' timestamp='1295992519' post='2600966']Karma obviously wasn't enough of a spark to get them moving down that path [/quote] I wonder why....

[quote name='Owned-You' timestamp='1295991152' post='2600929'] [font="Tahoma"]In my opinion, this beat-down has less to do with their past (it certainly made it easier for us though) and more to do with the threat they'd mount in the future. Simply because the NPO is one of the few competent alliances on the other side that could amass some strength to be an annoyance down the road. Most sheep flock over to the largest personalities and egos, enamored by bravado. NPO have plenty of personalities, egos, and bravado and will given time amass enough bodies to throw at the feet of our Doom House. Rather then allow them to grow into that future, we've opted to kill the baby in the cradle.[/font] [/quote] That's been said of them before and as of yet no one has had the backbone to pull it off. As it were, I'm pretty sure either way you made it quite certain they aren't the next threat you'll probably face.

[quote name='ktarthan' timestamp='1295989811' post='2600887'] You weren't clear enough? You called us opportunists because waited for an advantage. I thought that was pretty clear. We didn't attack sooner because if we attacked sooner we wouldn't have had an advantage. [i]Strategy[/i]. [/quote] So how does hitting NPO shake things up. I hear that it does, but haven't seen how exactly. If you say it's because there were no wars, I think you may have missed the past four days. There must be another reason why you think this.

[quote name='ktarthan' timestamp='1295989261' post='2600867'] Sorry I left that sentence a bit ambiguous (edited now); [i]they[/i] are saying that it was the wrong time, which is the exact thing I've been trying to refute this entire time. [/quote] Hitting NPO does little to shake up the power structure of today. The hard work was already done by others. Strategically it's brilliant, I suppose?

[quote name='goldielax25' timestamp='1295980221' post='2600571'] His ideals change on the most important one he would talk about when not on the OWF. He always says he is committed first and foremost to shaking up the game, and in those who shake it up. Well, the game got shaken up, so if he is true to his ideals I'm sure he is pretty happy. [/quote] The game didn't get shaken up, though. It's NPO. They are powerless.

[quote name='brickyard' timestamp='1295979831' post='2600544'] This coming from the most bipolar and flippant inhabitant of Bob. Its hard to keep up with your personalities. [/quote] He's not the one changing.

[quote name='Rocky Horror' timestamp='1295979689' post='2600537'] We should attack...ourselves?? [/quote] Oh man this one is gonna be golden sometime down the road.

[quote name='ktarthan' timestamp='1295978812' post='2600500'] Please never run for a MoD position. [/quote] I ran a fairly successful war department for two years and he's right. Shaking up the political landscape would have consisted of actually going to war against the current power brokers, not a weakened and isolated NPO.

[quote name='Geoffron X' timestamp='1295977660' post='2600469'] Well of course they won't take issues with large reps. It would be a little too obvious. [/quote] Most rational actors on Planet Bob have never had an issue with large reps.

[quote name='Rocky Horror' timestamp='1295976861' post='2600447'] "You failed to take the opportunity when we wanted you to, so you are opportunists and that is bad." [/quote] finally someone who gets it

[quote name='tamerlane' timestamp='1295976517' post='2600431'] These are the final moves, the endgame. May they demolish this house of morality down to its foundation. [/quote] No one pay attention to who built the house of morality they are knocking down. It's inconvenient.

[quote name='Epiphanus' timestamp='1295976128' post='2600418'] When was that exactly? [/quote] You're kidding, right.

[quote name='Epiphanus' timestamp='1295975830' post='2600405'] Oh, I'm sorry that I gave you the impression that I cared. I just thought it was funny you were so enraged by our ~purposed acts~ when your own alliance leader wants to do what we are doing and so much more. [/quote] I don't care if they roll you or you roll them. Just pointing out that you had the chance to do this when GOD said you should, instead of being complete cowards about it. You were scared then and hedged your bets, now you're just opportunists.

[quote name='goldielax25' timestamp='1295974337' post='2600349'] I'll echo what Pip said and say you should ask what Xiph would have done to NPO if he and others had their way. I'll give you a hint, it rhymes with 'shmishbandment'. [/quote] [quote name='Epiphanus' timestamp='1295973733' post='2600325'] I don't believe you've had too many heart to heart conversations with your boss about what he would do with NPO if he got the chance. If you had, you obviously wouldn't be toting this sense of righteousness. Not that I have any complaints about Xiphs love (or lack thereof) for big P. [/quote] Maybe you should go have a heart to heart with Xiph about my relationship with NPO. I'm sure there are at least three or four people that will read this post, Xiph himself most likely, and I hope they have a really good belly laugh.

[quote name='SirWilliam' timestamp='1295972769' post='2600285'] Ah. Well, I was MK at the time so I'm curious nonetheless. Way I see it, if you want a say in how peace is conducted with the enemy, you should at least be at war with said enemy. Otherwise it's mingling and can be seen as dictating how others conduct business. But really I guess that's neither here nor there. [/quote] Honestly I'm pretty sure I haven't said a word about how you guys conclude this war. If you think my gripe is about the peace last time as opposed to this time, then you're oversimplifying this a great deal.