ShinRa

[quote name='Hymenbreach' date='26 May 2010 - 08:38 AM' timestamp='1274859516' post='2312215'] Rule of Thumb: If you need to keep telling people how influential you were... [/quote] Out of interest, why exactly are you posting in this thread?

[quote name='TrotskysRevenge' date='20 May 2010 - 08:39 PM' timestamp='1274384372' post='2305570'] The reasonable course of action is not to continue to bemoan that the NPO has not changed and never will; waiting to see what we actually do before pronouncing judgment makes much more sense, and is actually, much more credible. [/quote] Go back and read previous posts involving Maelstrom Vortex. I have already said that my opinion of the order will grow if you show signs of improvement. Until then you have shown little to no reason to suggest you have changed at all. As for your choices, you are correct. But considering your many actions and decisions as leader of the NPO, and the lack of any regret or pause for thought you showed in crushing so many isolated and independent alliances, I have no doubt that you regard as great deal of them being the right choices to make and very few major events as being mistakes.

[quote name='Hydro' date='20 May 2010 - 06:37 PM' timestamp='1274377008' post='2305366'] Forgive me if I don't hold my breath. You've spent the last 10 pages railing on us, all the while our Emperor has offered you a cup of tea and you've done everything short of throwing it right back into his face. Who knows, maybe we might surprise you if you gave us a chance, but given your conduct in this thread, I don't foresee that happening...ever. [/quote] Has it occurred to you that the last ten pages might have not featured me railing against your alliance had you simply stopped replying or dropped the subject. And you're right. You might surprise me and you might prove me wrong, thus I am giving you a chance to chance and watching your actions. It depends entirely upon your members as to how I regard the NPO in the future. If they change, then things change for the better. Also, have we met before? No offence but most Pacificans have very little to differentiate themselves from other members of the Order.

[quote name='Maelstrom Vortex' date='20 May 2010 - 05:48 PM' timestamp='1274374116' post='2305304'] So, in summary: You are judging us on past actions we have paid for according to community desires. You believe yourself to have a higher standard than the community to which we are to be upheld meaning we are only worthy of destruction unless we have changed.[/quote] Please point out where I stated this. Where I specifically stated my regard to be above the rest of the community and to have a higher standard than them. You also appear to be ignoring many of the comments I have previously made. Pacifica and many of its leading and older members deserve destruction, not all of those who follow it. That is based upon my personal opinion and regard towards you. [quote]You do not believe we have changed, but you do not know if we have changed, but you continue to rail against us anyway despite not knowing with a certainty whether or not there is any true alteration to our behavior. You still think we have done far more damage than we have paid for, despite the community as a whole thinking otherwise. The only way for you to get past this is to let time heal the wounds and prove out whether or not we have changed.[/quote] You have given me little reason to believe that you have changed in the slightest. As stated in the last several posts, if you prove me wrong and do change then I will stop holding the past against you. But only when you prove yourself to be above the scum you appeared to be in the past. And yes, I still regard you as having dome far more damage to Bob than you have paid for. And that last statement just re-enforces my previous posts, if you prove me wrong over the coming months, years or whatnot then I will stop holding the past against you. [quote]Very well. Give us time. You'll see the difference. Until then, could you relent on pressing judgments when we have only just exited prison? Would you toss an inmate who has served his sentence to society back in jail simply because you disagreed with the judge even though he just literally stepped out of the gates of the prison and has done nothing wrong yet? Would you slander that person even though they've cleared their record by the standards of the courts? I note, usually when you do such things it is you who end up jailed again, not the ex-inmate.[/quote] That would depend upon the severity of his crime and just how easily got off being given a truly fitting sentence. I would be willing to let them prove themselves to be changed, but I would not instantly trust them and give them the benefit of the doubt when so little in their attitude and mannerisms have changed. [quote]In short: Give it a break. Come back to it later when you actually have something new on us to place before the judge? [/quote] See comments above. 1. Prove you have changed. 2. Continue to improve. 3. Show members to have a better moral standing than the scum who ruled during the times up to the Karma War. 4. ????? 5/ Profit! [quote name='Maelstrom Vortex' date='20 May 2010 - 05:58 PM' timestamp='1274374679' post='2305319'] I am only doing to you what you do for others. You feel we have not repented. Yet, we have. You have insufficient experience and evidence to conclude we do not regret the past policies that landed us in Karma.[/quote] I have more than enough experience with the past policies which landed you in Karma, and have seen enough of them to make me doubt that you are capable of instantly changing from a mob of imperialistic raiders trying to dominate half the game into truly decent people. [quote]You are already judging us before we have even had an opportunity to prove any change at all.[/quote] And yet as I have repeatedly stated I am giving you full opportunity to prove me otherwise. [quote]The correction was made via a judgment rendered by the community. Only you feel your standards.. which are higher than those of the community, should be enforced.[/quote] Because you did not pay enough or were punished enough to equal the damage you did to Bob in your various wars and crimes. [quote]Whether or not you wish to hold things against me I didn't do prior to my time in CN against me is a decision you yourself will have to make. Know only that if you do that it will speak volumes as to your definition of morality. [/quote] My definition of morality has already repeatedly been pointed out when you questioned what I would regard as being a fitting punishment for what you have done. It also results in me not instantly trust alliances who were noted to have a ‘troll squad’ performed PZI and EZI over the slightest excuses and have thus far not given any reason to suggest you have changed at all. And as stated before it is not you specifically I am holding these crimes to but the alliance you are part of as a whole.

[quote name='Letum' date='20 May 2010 - 05:48 PM' timestamp='1274374089' post='2305302'] My comments were pretty spot on. You have clearly not acted correctly, and I applaud you for admitting as much; however you have also clearly devoted very little effort to address that topic, instead preferring to talk about the alliance closest to your heart. Whilst I understand why you might want to do so; especially given the sensitivity that equating things which put you in a bad light as insults, I would say that coming to proper terms with your past would be a great improvement for you. [/quote] It is Pacifica that I hold a grudge against, not Vortex. If he wishes to dig up hold grudges and wounds in the actions which relate to me, actions which I have repented for, then I shall hold him to actions taken by Pacifica, which as I am concerned have not been apologised for or corrected. Largely due to the fact he is a member of it. You know little of what is being spoken about, little of the results around it, and little of the debate and final conclusion which took place. Furthermore you were not directly involved in it in any way, and it does not relate to you. As far as I am concerned you are simply using it as an excuse to try and counter my many points and arguments against Pacifica. To blackname me and by extension insult me. The subject of my attack upon him hours after the end of the Karma war is a matter which was dealt with and ended.

[quote name='Letum' date='20 May 2010 - 05:36 PM' timestamp='1274373364' post='2305288'] Francoism transcends many realms. To "erase" it, you would have to hunt it down amongst them. Are you sure you can do that? I'm pretty sure it would be impossible to dislodge it from this one.[/quote] Then it is impossible for Pacifica to have a fitting punishment for all it has done. [quote]That wasn't an insult. Did you think our replies were such? That might explain why you seem to be in such need of a nice cup of tea. No, I think it is quite an apt description of your attempts to dodge any discussion on your inappropriate actions. [/quote] You state incorrect comments then accuse me that I am using hatred to make people ignore what you regard to be my own flaws. It’s something which is wrongly stated and is used to try and hold me in a bad slight, thus I categorise it as an insult. Unless you can create a more fitting term?

[quote name='Brutal Psychoticus' date='20 May 2010 - 05:11 PM' timestamp='1274371879' post='2305255'] How easily you sling mud without facts... Warrants no response as it is just vitriol. [/quote] How easily you label statements without any grounding to be facts. [quote name='Maelstrom Vortex' date='20 May 2010 - 05:11 PM' timestamp='1274371888' post='2305256'] So what is sufficient punishment to you? Do you want the NPO community destroyed? Consider what you're asking and its implications to the community as a whole. I tell you now it would not do this world well to see over 600 people potentially lost to the winds of time. Not in the state it is already in.[/quote] To see Pacifica itself destroyed would be a fitting punishment, to be fully destroyed with no chance of being resurrected and the ridiculous ideology of Francoism erased. It depends upon the people individually to see what their fate would be. Those who gave out the orders and led the order to try and totally dominate Bob deserve far more severe a punishment than those who joined later on. And those who attempted to alter and twist factual information to portray Pacifica in a good light during such times. [quote]I assure you I've seen many changes from within the Order and we are definitely far from the policies we utilized in the past. Cortath is an Emperor who demonstrates a grace I have not seen in prior leadership. If what you are concerned about is us being good at building ourselves up.. being constructive, you have much to fear.. as far as oppression, I know of no plans for revenge, retaliation, or oppression as of yet. I don't think it's a path we would even want to think of taking at this point.[/quote] This wouldn’t happen to be the same Emperor Cortath who threw out a former member of Vox Populi as a result of having a sense of humor would it. Because after such an action I have every reason to doubt any sincerity he might have in developing Pacifica beyond a group of cowards with guns who target the weak and hide behind allies. Again, if Pacifica begins to grow beyond this then I will not hold past events against them later on into the future. If it does not change or even grows to be worse then the grudges remain. [quote]As for why I bring it up: Because you brought up an ancient infraction, I figured ancient infractions were fair game. There is nothing that can't be forgiven unless you don't want it to be forgiven. I do not hold a grudge against you. I have forgiven you for that incident, but I'm not going to let you stand here and smear my brothers and sisters when you.. yourself.. are not pure. I realize your argument is that the magnitudes of the infractions are different, but that doesn't diminish my argument that you are a holding a grudge despite change. It is not up to you alone as to the magnitude of our punishment. It is up to the community as a whole. They made their decision.. a decision good for all of us.. and we were disciplined.. and now you need to let it go. [/quote] At this stage I have no reason to forgive Pacifica. I have stated why previously and I stand by those reasons and what I shall do if you improve. Until then the same grudges and ill wishes shall remain. And no, it is not up to me to judge the magnitude of your punishment. But I still regard the reparations and damages done to be relatively light in comparison to the crimes of Pacifica. Thus far I have no reason to not hold you to them, and their severity does not mean you can simply be forgiven without any proof that you wish to become better people. [quote name='Letum' date='20 May 2010 - 05:21 PM' timestamp='1274372450' post='2305275'] Also known as: "distract people away from my actions by railing against something I hate".[/quote] Alternatively "Letum doesn't bother to read half the damn statement and makes random insults."

[quote name='Maelstrom Vortex' date='20 May 2010 - 04:55 PM' timestamp='1274370900' post='2305224'] I am definitely no coward: Casualty Rank: Ranked #2,835 of 25,493 Nations (11.12%) And I've never been over 24k NS so you can imagine how much fighting that took. Got a nice even distribution on my counts too: 394,475 Attacking + 372,681 Defending = 767,156 Casualties [/quote] No. That we can agree upon in the Karma War, unlike many others you did not flee. It’s just a shame you showed the same bloodlust during smaller and easier wars.

[quote name='Maelstrom Vortex' date='20 May 2010 - 04:34 PM' timestamp='1274369632' post='2305190'] Except I did lose everything in the war. I was ZI'd. What you see of my NS now I bought back through internal efforts to fund repairs and re-growth. I do not pretend to account for the acts of everyone else in my alliance, only myself.[/quote] My grudge is against Pacifica as a whole, not you as an individual. If you want to continue this argument then I am going to continue to argue against you with points about the actions made by your alliance. [quote]Is it my understanding you are willing to forgive yourself... but not to forgive others? You make a mistake.. and everything's alright later on once you pay for it. We make a mistake (and yes I believe our past polices were a mistake) in our past.. pay our dues.. and you expect us to keep paying? I was not around for the GATO-1V war and perhaps you should remember that the constituency of alliances change over time? I am beginning to see a bit of a double standard in your dialogue.[/quote] You did not make a mistake in the same sense. The fact you are willing to acknowledge your alliance’s past policies were in error is something I can admire, and it shows that even if the NPO as a whole are unable to change and accept the past was truly a mistake you are. However, they were intentional actions which were made while they were fully aware of all facts, not simply an error made as a result of lack of information. As for your second point, might I remind you of this: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=26172&view=findpost&p=688985 In the PMs we used to speak and negotiate reparations for your actions you did not deny that you had been a part of the GATO-1V war. Thus that later part is a lie. [quote]I understand we gave FAN an impossibly tough time. I never endorse the PZI or EZ policies. Nor will I ever. But the point of the matter is. You are willing to forgive yourself and when the community has rendered judgment and your enemy has paid the judgment, you are not willing to forgive them. [/quote] Not until they show signs that they are truly improving and developing beyond the cowards and thugs that the members of the New Pacific Order always have been. If they show signs of development, or if they disband and finally die out, then I will forget the actions they made. But as far as I am concerned the results of the Karma War, the war in which you supposedly paid for your previous crimes against the alliances you destroyed, crushed and beat into submission, were light. They did not reflect the magnitude of your actions nor were they sufficient punishment. [quote]You claim we are ruining the game by all these past actions.. yet if you would look in the mirror you would only see yourself now as we've removed ourselves from such actions and are no longer doing the same things you are critiquing. You're the only one left holding a grudge. [/quote] Then why are you so willing to drag up a minor infraction which had previously been settled and finished if you do not hold such a grudge yourself. As stated above the reason I hold a grudge is because the NPO has not changed. If it begins to change and develop into something better than it is now, then I will begin to forget. What was done is something which cannot be truly forgiven but that does not mean that I will hold them against you in the future if you truly begin to develop. [quote name='Brutal Psychoticus' date='20 May 2010 - 04:53 PM' timestamp='1274370763' post='2305221'] Casualty Rank: Ranked #3,705 of 25,512 Nations (14.52%) I am in the top 30% of Pacifica's nations. I remember being ZI'd and ZT'd. Don't seem to remember fleeing...been so long maybe all those casualties came as I was being shot in the back running behind the meatshields you claim we put up. Oh well..all ancient history now.[/quote] Or perhaps those casualties shot up during the early part of the war and then you fled into peace mode when you had a chance to do so. After all, the early part of the war looked to be a one sided beat down againse VE. And we all know just how well you Pacificans can ignore an easy victory against an enemy alliance who stands no chance of defeating you. It's just a shame they had friends isn't it.

[quote name='silentkiller' date='20 May 2010 - 04:24 PM' timestamp='1274369066' post='2305174'] I wonder where the 18 mil Ns went. [/quote] Apparently sold off to so your larger nations willing to fight would have larger warchests and be out of range of nuclear armed nations. Either that or the mass of members and ghosts who fled during that war.

[quote name='Maelstrom Vortex' date='20 May 2010 - 03:51 PM' timestamp='1274367056' post='2305143'] Shinra, if I recall right, it was you who attacked me after the Karma war right after we got terms and we had to get someone to pull you off me after I had been obliterated by Karma forces. You briefly had my respect in how you handled that situation and managed to get yourself out of a diplomatic snafu; mind you it wasn't that hard given we didn't really have the ability to enforce any form of terms on you in that situation. You have totally lost all respect I had for you in this one single thread. You who have attacked others in the same fashion for which you have accused of us attacking those when they are down. You hypocrite. And yet while the war raged, despite being on my back I fought you to the best of my ability.. tooth and nail. Gave you what I could what little there was left in the fight in me with what little ns I had left.. and I did not complain. We even had a little conversation about how the fight was going that seemed relatively friendly. I was told you were a viper, I gave you the benefit of my doubts. Well.. those benefits were just revoked by your own words. You have proven yourself little more than the gardner snake others have claimed you to be. At your best you are a pest, at your worst you are vermin. I won't waste any further time on you. [/quote] You seem remarkably willing to forget just how many of your strongest cowered away in peace during that war. Or have you so easily forgotten the sheer number of nations who fled and hid while a handful of you fought? Furthermore my own act was in error, and unlike your alliance I was willing to repay the damage I did with both interest and a sincere apology. When Pacifica committed cowardly attacks it was fully aware of what it was doing. Not acting in simple error. What I did once as a result of personal mistake, Pacifica has committed many times as a result of spite or warmongering. And unlike Pacifica I have never committed actions such as refusing to even acknowledge offers of surrender by an enemy. Or have you also chosen to forget about that small detail from the GATO-1V war? And do not make any boast or speech about fighting about 'how little you had left'. You know nothing of losing everything in a war and having the will to go on fighting. Nor do any of your members. Why don't you try speaking to a few members of FAN about this, see how well you compare with how much they lost and how they stood and fought back when they had nothing left.

Thank you for that Valerius. I cannot say that I agree with your choice of title but it's nice to be reminded of what we achieved. And for reminding others who would rather we were forgotten and disappear into history of what we did.

[quote name='Letum' date='20 May 2010 - 12:02 PM' timestamp='1274353335' post='2304891'] While I am flattered at your declaration that you currently consider us worth allying with, I do not think the feeling is reciprocated towards your 600 slot army. [/quote] If you were not worth allying with then neither the NSO, NATO nor TPF would have done so. And a 600 slot army is more a blunt instrument than any actual device which can be used to improve an alliance or its rulers. It can only be used to destroy or be used to threaten others with, it is not something which can or should be used to direct and control a alliance. [quote name='silentkiller' date='20 May 2010 - 12:02 PM' timestamp='1274353354' post='2304893'] No disbandment? That hurt Shinra. [/quote] Force cannot be used to threaten your alliance with disbandment. As you proved in the Karma War most of your members will flee screaming into peace mode for fear of losing their tech and infra rather than fight a superior enemy, then recruit new nations to act as cannon fodder against those who are fighting you.

[quote name='Letum' date='20 May 2010 - 11:56 AM' timestamp='1274352990' post='2304884'] So, if you had 600 war slots and an invincible army, how would you go about it? [/quote] With those particular advantages; make your alliance not worth allying with and force you to change and improve. Or a more likely simply use it to keep you in line and fight your wars on your own for once. Make sure you do your own dirty work rather than using your allies do everything for you.

[quote name='silentkiller' date='20 May 2010 - 11:45 AM' timestamp='1274352327' post='2304871'] But that would mean we won't have you as our hater, and that would make the entire Planet Bob experience that much duller. We can't have that now can we? [/quote] Prove it. You cannot know something until you have tried it for yourself. [quote name='Letum' date='20 May 2010 - 11:46 AM' timestamp='1274352379' post='2304873'] Can you attempt to wipe us out and destroy us without abusing the MDP web again? [/quote] To that you already know the answer. If one nation could win against six hundred then you would have been beaten and destroyed a long time ago. [quote name='Weirdgus' date='20 May 2010 - 11:46 AM' timestamp='1274352375' post='2304872'] Oh man, I'm so sorry we couldn't make you feel happy in the way that we act, what will I ever do now? [/quote] You could always try to be a better person. Or try to improve Pacifica. [quote name='koona' date='20 May 2010 - 11:45 AM' timestamp='1274352320' post='2304870'] We send them a lot of tech and money. What else should have we done? [/quote] Treated them better. Not hijacked their forums, banned their members without reason or turn their entire alliances into massive tech farms to increase your own power under the guise of rebuilding. Or how about only punishing those members who acted against you in place of the entire alliance.

[quote name='silentkiller' date='20 May 2010 - 11:42 AM' timestamp='1274352127' post='2304864'] Are you still sore over GATO. You realise that GATO is the only alliance that actually had a treaty with us throught out the terms? Ever consider that you might be in the wrong alliance? Get over yourself and your petty grudges. Now that we are not under the protection of 15 alliances, I again invite you to "[b]get rid of the scum of the human race[/b]". SOmething tells me you won't though. What is that they say? You can talk the talk, but can you walk the walk? I guess we know the answer to that one don't we? [/quote] What I am sore about is that you have not learnt a single thing nor have you showed any sign of improvement towards the treatment of your former enemies. Nor have you showed any sign of changing for the better. [quote]It's hardly cowardly and dishonest. It's how you win. As to the network, having the ability to have half the game on your side is good diplomacy[/quote] Winning is not everything. An alliance like the NPO at the height of its power attacking a small alliance less than half its size has no challenge to it, nor is there anything to be gained from fighting them besides destroying someone who was never a threat to the NPO to begin with. And simply because you have half the game on your side does not mean you have to bring them into every single war you have. Esepcially the ones which do not require them. Sending half the game against somone you stand a chance of fighting and winning against alone it simply makes you look like a coward or a bully who requires his cronies to beat someone up.

[quote name='Weirdgus' date='20 May 2010 - 11:37 AM' timestamp='1274351817' post='2304856'] Yea, because large conflicts that took place while we were under terms were so balanced, a true testament of sportsmanship Where do you come up with these things, I mean, really? [/quote] No, but they never resulted in crimes like you trying to totally wipe out FAN for two years or hijacking the governments of other alliances. Mostly by looking at your members and actions, then choosing the exact opposite path.

[quote=Voodoo Nova]Attacking the enemy when he is weak is good strategy and an ally network is there to ensure victory. That's working to win.[/quote] But it is both cowardly and dishonest. Once or twice in attacking a weak enemy I could understand, but not constantly. Nor can I forgive constantly fighting far weaker alliances who would be unable to put up a decent fight even at full strength. And there is a difference between having an a network of alliances and having half the game hold down an enemy while Pacifica kicks them in the nuts.

[quote name='Letum' date='20 May 2010 - 11:28 AM' timestamp='1274351301' post='2304847'] If you really want that, then you should pay us to do tech deals. I heard that is a full-proof way to make an alliance implode. The excess liquidity coupled with the tech depreciation trigger a financial collapse. [/quote] Please explain. [/oblivious] [quote]our an idiot and delusional, get some help. Having Pacifica back in full force will only make the game more interesting and exciting. Lets see where this takes us BOB.[/quote] All it will do is result in the Pacificans being in charge again and turning Bob into their personal empire. It will only be interesting and exciting for those who choose to submit to them and enjoy one sided curb stomp wars. That is unless they're quickly wiped out and destroyed before abusing the MDP web again.

[quote name='silentkiller' date='20 May 2010 - 11:15 AM' timestamp='1274350524' post='2304830'] Dont you have a few newbie nations to attack? I assure you, you will get a lot more attention from us this time . That is what you want don't you? Clear off maggot and take your hatred of all that is Pacifican with you. [/quote] No, what I want is for either your nation rulers to reform into individuals who can at least pass themsleves off as respectable members of the human race rather than cowards and scum, or for you to disband and die out. The latter is the more likely of the two to happen. As for attacking newbie nations; that shows just how little you comprehend of the others who have faced you. Unlike you I do not attack those unable to put up a fair fight, nor do I require half the game to fight for me when attacking other alliances. [quote name='Weirdgus' date='20 May 2010 - 11:20 AM' timestamp='1274350800' post='2304836'] What my comrade was trying to say was the text for NPO Reps is wrong, you state that we had to pay 7B and 300k tech while the surrender document says otherwise : "I. Reparations of 350,000 tech and $10,000,000,000 will be assessed upon the New Pacific Order.All reparations of the 350,000 technology must be paid by nations with greater than or equal to 1000.00 technology upon the signing of these terms". As you can see the actual sum is significantly larger and it comes with restrictions.[/quote] And still far less than is required for your crimes. [quote]Given this blatant mistake it's safe to assume the rest of your "little propaganda piece" is just as inaccurate, rendering it, for all intents and purposes, useless. [/quote] By that same logic I could state that not a single member of your Order has ever stated a truthful comment in their life as a result of speaking a single lie.

[quote name='Letum' date='20 May 2010 - 08:43 AM' timestamp='1274341405' post='2304739'] I agree completely. Next time, please make sure to give us the wonder decommissions and 6/7 of tech instead. You know, because they are "hard". (Also, I don't know if you've noticed but you have the wrong terms for NPO in your pretty little propaganda piece) [/quote] Why? The only thing you deserve for all you have done is to be wiped out and your alliance disbanded. Letting you surrender was a mistake. As for the 'propoganda piece' I was simply remarking that for all of your moaning, !@#$%*ing and screaming of how bad you have it; you have done far worse to others.

Alright, so you've gotten out of some relatively light terms. Congrats buying your way out of total destruction like any other bully when confronted with someone bigger than themselves. And to pre-empt any of the traditional response of some screaming fanatic announcing that Pacifica had it bad: [img]http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/134/6/5/Signature_02_by_Lord_ShinRa.gif[/img]

Best: Laserwolf; with Arciel and Dragonsphyre as close seconds. Worst: As tempted as I am to put down Doom Star and Chris Kaos, Letum is the obvious answer.

[quote name='Lord Curzon' date='24 March 2010 - 06:37 PM' timestamp='1269455810' post='2235420'] I think it is absurd that you end your statement with "[/halfserioussarcasm]" and then expect everyone to pick out which parts are serious and which are sarcasm. "[/halfserioussarcasm]" is either a cover for launching attacks or a failed attempt at joking. There are plenty of egomaniacs at NPO. Do us all a favor and make a better argument because your whole post should have [halfassedargument][/halfassedargument] around it. [/quote] OOC: I apologies, I have found that some people need a sign telling them when someone is using sarcasm or not. As such I started ending such statements with varying degrees of sarcasm depending upon how ludicrous the statement etc. When I mentioned that WorldConqueror was 'intentionally incapable to define the hyperbole and sarcasm of statements' I was comparing it to previous replies to posts and PMs. As for the statement itself, all of it was sarcastic. I shall simply put [/sarcasm] at the end of sarcastic posts if you would prefer.

[quote name='WorldConqueror' date='24 March 2010 - 04:50 PM' timestamp='1269449439' post='2235313'] My dear ShinRa, my post, and my sig, are designed to ridicule you and your ilk. Those that hate us, everything we've done, everything we stand for. And the thing you hate the most is that you can't stop us, can't break us. We enjoy the fact that our mere presence fills you with impotent rage. We revel in it. Your hate has blinded you so that you can't even single one of us out, you have to attack the institution, the idea of the New Pacific Order. Perhaps one day when you can think more rationally about why you hate Pacificans so much, you will realise you simply hate what you can never be. [/quote] Amongst the deluded statements, contrived opinions and outright lies within this answer I'm sure that most people can see the confession here. As he noted, this individual takes every action to provoke a negative response to himself and as such to draw attention from others. Thus he is an egotist, with little difference from the rest of his ilk. In addition to this he is proven to be intentionally incapable to define the hyperbole and sarcasm of statements with true opinions and as such hopes to use them to intentionally misinterpret a statement or to alter its meaning entirely to support some statement of his own. In the process attempting to draw further focus to himself. Thank you for your time, I believe that my point has been proven. I shall interrupt this debate no further. [/halfserioussarcasm]