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thanks anyway GOONS, we lub you

Shame on you Nueva Vida. I guess we'll have to nuke you extra hard to make sure those photos get destroyed in the carnage.

New Police Order War or Cabin Fever War

he should be able to go on roguing for a couple of months with a 3.3 billion warchest.

You can have your CB argument "TPF tried to spy and destroy us several months ago", but you cannot claim that they were immediately before this war were actively trying to inflict athens damage without some sort of proof. Can't say that I have, but hate is a complicated emotion, you can be cordial and want to destroy someone at the same time.

As someone in an alliance that is allied to both (potential) sides, I have more choices than that. And it's funny you say that in a thread where Archon attempts to deflect comparisons to the Hegemony by demanding not to be called Karma (which doesn't even make sense, but a nice redirect anyway). There is a way of reaching common ground, there's just a lack of trying on your part.

you're not arguing that they present a physical threat, so what's the point of beating them down? What do you gain or lose from them losing slightly less infra? We have a different definition of respect I'm afraid. Maybe. But MK's hatred of TOP that may or may not be due to this is important to this conflict, isn't it.

You personally might be, but I suspect a lot of people on your side wouldn't be happy if TOP stayed out.

what effort? TPF is not exactly a powerhouse and the notion that giving them a chance to hit peace mode is a threat to athens and her allies is quite laughable. As for the question why keep IRON out, I guess there's no reason to if you're trying to hurt them and their allies.

Unless you have ulterior motives and a separate agenda, you wouldn't be calling out and goading the allies of an alliance you're punishing. Token diplomacy would be for the benefit of TPF's allies, not so much for TPF, who we all know are hardheaded and defiant. This lack of effort to keep IRON out of this war (and let's face it the main target TOP) is quite transparent.

No the sticking point is that no attempt at a diplomatic resolution was made. Also, taunts and goading are directed at so far uninvolved parties are being made. Hard not to draw conclusions on this one.

Doesn't matter seeing as to how they didn't get a chance. And no I don't think they would've agreed, but since they're scum they don't deserve diplomacy like the rest of us, right?

Not arguing the CB, both sides have their merit. A more appropriate action would be to offer them a way out of war. Change of leadership, reps, expulsion of responsible parties. If TPF didn't accept it, then declare war. The fact alone that after 3 days of war, instead of some solution being offered out of war, the opposing side is taunting and goading the allies of TPF that have nothing to do with the offense into war (and despite what Archon claims he's not doing, it's exactly what's happening).

See the problem is though that the Karma War was advertised as the end of what's happening to TPF right now. So I guess that makes everyone hypocrites all around.

you're right Archon, Karma doesn't fit ... yet. It will when these shenanigans you and your friends are orchestrating will come back to bite you in the rear.

We are not Genmay 2.0 also, we don't have enough probates in that NS range

Oho!' said the pot to the kettle; "You are dirty and ugly and black! Sure no one would think you were metal, Except when you're given a crack." "Not so! not so! kettle said to the pot; "'Tis your own dirty image you see; For I am so clean -without blemish or blot- That your blackness is mirrored in me.

I thought we didn't do protectorates? These Triton guys must be really cool

nice DoE, hails and such

Sad to see you go, you made Umbrella a lot more fun. At least we still have pieman. But the biggest loss from this is obviously GGA's, hope they realize how much they really blew it

People are probably weary of doing a tech deal with an unaffiliated nation. Too great of a chance that their cash are going to end up in the coffers of a tech raider. If you do not want to join an alliance with defensive obligation and what not, try the Citadel Trading Company. You'll be protected against raids and you'll get all the customers you need from the members of the Citadel. Just register on the Citadel Website and change your alliance affiliation to Citadel Trading Company.

Cash sent. looking forward to a long term deal.

this is going to be fun, gonna get me a viking helmet war trophy to mount on my wall.

glad to see you guys come aboard, hails and such!

congrats to both fine alliances.