SpiderJerusalem

[quote name='Charles Stuart' timestamp='1300453012' post='2669027'] Yeah, because we did everything that you consider "bad" on our own. Lets play a game, it is called spot a friend in this link. http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/The_Continuum [/quote] You were certainly the main instigator behind pretty much every conflict... The rest of Q got their punishment in Karma... You on the other hand were peace mode warriors back then as well

[quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1300450032' post='2669003'] NPO wasnt attacked for its track record. It was attacked because it [u]might [/u]become a threat in the future and MK members were bored. Any alliance/bloc not in DH could meet the same fate when MK gets bored and/or paranoid again. Anyway what you said doesnt explain the month long beatdown they are required to take for being attacked. [/quote] They do have a chance to fight back during the "beatdown". [quote name='Guffey' timestamp='1300452583' post='2669021'] we are fighting very much so, just not their upper tiers. They complaining that were not fighting to let them win, but rather fighting to inflict the most damage on them [/quote] This is your way of inflicting the most damage? Then you are doing it wrong... The long term damage on us is minimal, but the economic consequences for many of your large nations with small war chests can be very damaging indeed. So, go ahead, do your "worst"

[quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1300448752' post='2668992'] I asked it before and I'll ask it again. Its entirely possible Duckroll might fight DH someday in the future. Does this mean DR or anyone not in DH is also a target for a pre-emptive attack and savage alliance wide beat down to appease their paranoia? [/quote] Duckroll does not have the same track record as Pacifica, so, to the best of my knowledge, no.

[quote name='Vol Navy' timestamp='1300140125' post='2664959'] especially Pacifica; around which their entire existence is defined. [/quote] Oh my... The irony...

[quote name='The Pansy' timestamp='1300074162' post='2664052'] Dumbhouse, come back in 2 years when it means something. [/quote] I thought this was the best post in the thread [quote name='Letum' timestamp='1300095037' post='2664371'] Sorry, you guys have to prove that you've changed first. [/quote] Until I read this... Props Letum, it's deserved *tips hat

[quote name='berbers' timestamp='1299615677' post='2656921'] How so? [/quote] I don't see you guys fighting at the moment, or?

[quote name='Amossio' timestamp='1299607309' post='2656825'] it was discussed on the nemesis forums, but most of anathemas gov wasn't part of it really, they came in after being invited by kev... [/quote] It was still discussed right up to the date of your DoE. Hell, everything is there, even the discussion about the name. It's a poor excuse for an alliance, that are trying to copy something they are not capable of coming close to. I find it disgraceful that the name of Nemesis is even mentioned in this, and people should have been honourable enough to keep it out.

[quote name='Hadrian' timestamp='1299602823' post='2656770'] Funny thing is, we do not [i]want[/i] to be Nemesis 2.0, nor are we trying to be. [b]Anyone who thinks we are is a complete fool. [/b] Edit: Allow me to truly clarify that. We are [b]not[/b] Nemesis 2.0. We don't want to be, we don't aim to be. The title of the treaty is nothing more than a joke, or some might say an attempt at dramatic irony, as we have quite a few members who are ex-Nemesis. [/quote] So this is why you discussed this alliance in the old Nemesis forums in the aptly named "Nemesis 2.0" part of the forum section? Seriously. I would have supported an alliance that actually deserved it, but this is a !@#$@#$ disgrace

[quote name='Hadrian' timestamp='1299599564' post='2656718'] I'm glad we've made it clear that we are not Nemesis 2.0, then. [/quote] [quote name='Crazy Crazy' timestamp='1299601169' post='2656751'] Hence the title of the treaty................. [/quote] Yeah... [i]Any[/i] reference to Nemesis from this sorry lot (daggarz excepted) is a disgrace...

[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1299600542' post='2656739'] Why would I attack DH? [/quote] Oh... You are fairly vocal against us... So, I am just hoping that it's not just hot air

[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1299596917' post='2656693'] In attacking Drake? Yeah, you bet. [/quote] Nah You just have a big mouth, so I hope that you will attack DH

[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1299595703' post='2656683'] [center][img]http://i56.tinypic.com/2ceq6af.jpg[/img] [size="5"][b]The doctors told me not to[/b][/size][/center] I don't approve of DrakeZ07s new leadership of the alliance, he's made bad decisions in the space of a week, as a result, I no longer recognise him as leader and have seized control of all communication channels. DrakeZ07 is no longer under the protection of The Peoples Community because I said so. See you when I come out of hippy mode DrakeZ07 [/quote] Good to hear! I trust that you will put your money where your mouth is regarding this war?

[quote name='Bob Ilyani' timestamp='1299588227' post='2656626'] Because for this alliance to [i]really [/i]be Nemesis 2.0 it'd need the people that ruled the alliance from the start of the history as well. I can name them, but you were there, so it doesn't matter. Anathema is a solid alliance filled with people that I am very close with, but they are not Nemesis 2.0. [/quote] Thank you. I hoped someone would come forward and say this

I don't think I have anything to say here...

[quote name='berbers' timestamp='1299580732' post='2656583'] So good luck CD, better to go down swinging with your allies than get picked off for some imagined slight in the future. [/quote] As opposed to NATO you mean?

[quote name='Sulmar' timestamp='1299534554' post='2655763'] Anyways, extending your logic further, since DH and NSO are both allowed to interpret attacks different ways, can't CD do the same thing? [/quote] My dear man, we are not debating if they can do it or not. Of course they can. We are debating if they are breaking terms or not If you use your logic however, we can extend it even further, into the realms of other terms. And with that logic, you can't impose terms on alliances, since they can themselves choose what they want. And we should also remove all treaties, since you can choose if you want to follow them or no... Wait, we may be onto something good here brb

[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1299526755' post='2655664'] Then they shouldn't have agreed to the term that allows them to reenter if an ally is declared on. [/quote] And I sure hope that CD don't expect to receive terms any time this side of new year's

[quote name='Pyroman' timestamp='1299521896' post='2655565'] Well met sir. Any response I could think of seemed pathetic, [b]I look forward to doing this again in future threads.[/b] [/quote] Vice versa [quote name='Sulmar' timestamp='1299522048' post='2655570'] Darn, foiled again! You make me sad with your logic in CN. Take two, just because DH thinks that attacking one of them is attacking all of them, that doesn't make it so. With Umbrella attacking NSO after CD peace terms we had a de facto DoW blah blah blah. CD was now allowed to enter the war, but the terms did not state that they had to attack the same alliance who attacked after terms, so CD went after MK. [/quote] So, NSO can decide when it recognize an attack as a war, but DH can't? I thought that the entire meaning of the oh so famous Moldavi Doctrine was that it's any alliance's right to decide over these matters themselves? So, the case here is that we first recognized your attack on GOONS as an attack on the entire DH. Then after this you delayed your response to after CD was out of terms. To use the good old pre-school logic: We did it first, so we are right. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2sdGmbLNwY]Therefore, according to NSO logic, your attack on GOONS was an attack on us all.[/url]

[quote name='Sulmar' timestamp='1299520943' post='2655550'] I got this yo. Regardless of whether MK's attacks on WC counted as a DoW, no one from Umbrella actually attacked NSO until after CD peaced out. Thus, the de facto state of war between Umbrella and NSO allowed for CD's entry into the war. Obviously, [b]since CD is more suited to fighting MK rather than Umbrella they declared on them since even Doomhouse acknowledges that by attacking one of them you attack all.[/b] Goddamn, I should get paid to do this !@#$. [/quote] Thank you for invalidating your own argument. If you agree to this logic, then your attack on GOONS was in fact an attack on us all, therefore making it impossible for CD to counter attack without breaking terms Again, thanks! [quote name='Pyroman' timestamp='1299521199' post='2655555'] I hadn't realized I was talking to a blatherskite who doesn't know how to play rock-paper-scissors. [/quote] The option of RPS is given to opponents that we don't want to dismantle, burn up and salt the ground where they stood

[quote name='Pyroman' timestamp='1299519902' post='2655540'] I didn't realize this war would just be one big game of red rover. Come over SpiderJerusalem [/quote] It's more a game of Roshambo, and we're wearing steel tipped boots, a jockstrap and goes first Good luck

[quote name='Pyroman' timestamp='1299518222' post='2655521'] Really? Fantastic! I've been having a hard time finding sellers. [/quote] Should be plenty of them in your own alliance when we are finished with you

[quote name='Varianz' timestamp='1299504084' post='2655387'] Since MK failed to declare war on us, it became our right to decide when the war legally started. [/quote] I thought that dismantling your nations was a fairly clear statement of war. But I guess I overestimated your intelligence Also, CD: ~EtErNaL tEcH fArM~

[quote name='mikk206' timestamp='1299242333' post='2652374'] Good god, fighting sparta. I'd die laughing. [/quote] I thought this was what you hoped for the other way around when you called upon Legion to fight us?

Velkommen til krigen Nordreich! Glad dere er her (Welcome to the war Nordreich! Glad you're here)

[quote name='Geoffron X' timestamp='1299173085' post='2651243'] Well I can only get one member of your "winning" coalition to declare on me at a time so otherwise it'd probably be higher for us, at least. [/quote] It's because the majority of our nations are a bit higher up than that... Get your entire alliance in war mode, and we'll raise those numbers for you