Pyroman
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Oh, so that's what we were doing. So, you found out about a threat, found out that we failed to fulfill that threat, then attacked non-threat. At least you didn't try to argue that you're not afraid of us. That fact is looking mighty indisputable right about now.
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If we wanted war with you, how exactly have we failed? What, because we didn't get to DoW you guys first? You realize you outnumber us even without Fark and TOP, calling firstsies is hardly relevant. No, you're wrong no matter what. Either we didn't try and therefore couldn't have failed, or we did try and are succeeding. But, like I already said, we didn't try. I still call it success though. Feels like we proved to the world that Polar's ego is easily bruised. Oh, and that you're afraid of us. Proved that too.
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Oh, so that's what this war is. We shall call it "The offensive sig war". Does your own bloodstained Polar logo sig indicate that you also wish to wage war against Polar? Too bad, Rayvon's sig gets dibs.
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I had no idea polar had so much respect for both our ambitiousness and our military strength. Had we known you were going to attack us with 8 times the NS, I bet we might have tried to form some sort of coalition to wipe you guys out. Of course, that would be as much a farce on our part as this whole thing is on your part. At any rate, happy hunting.
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ITT Polar can't handle the fact that they're detestable; preempts non-existent war. Stay classy guys.
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Good stuff, love me some SMF. o/ Rayvon bringer of good change and destruction of enemies.
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We ride to war 5 million! Fake edit: Had to make some changes to my usual post in Ravyon's threads.
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Hail hail Robonia Sith! I liked the ommage to everything that is us. Also, sorry for the separation TPF, may you do fantastic in your future endeavors (unless we cross)
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This is true, but the financial issues that those nations are already having will have been compounded. They can change their resources but it will be harder to buy more nukes nonetheless. And like I said, NSO will not complain if this tactic is used against us. Like Ray said before, if it is by someone currently not engaging us then we will take it as a hostile act. Other than that exception, I doubt any of us sees any reason why 5 nations losing trades temporarily will be harmful to us. Besides, unlike Kaskus, we know when to give in.
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Once again, it's not arrogance. I don't see how you can even make that claim, but whatever. The use of sanctions, to you, might sound like desperation. The sanctions were more or less to help out our little guys who are up against nukes due to the absolutely demolished upper teirs of Kaskus. It probably wouldn't have been necessary at all without the NEW aid bomb. Allies were needed because with the use of nukes at our lower teirs we were at risk of losing many kaskus nations to peace mode while our small nations suffered from anarchy. This would be counter productive to our "we want to destroy US" stance, as well as, for the time being, wreaking havoc all over his support lines. Anyway, the sith won't complain if sanctions are used against us. We're neither the arrogant bastards nor the hypocrites you paint us to be. It'll hardly matter, in fact, since not only are our members capable of changing colors, but one senator is only allowed 5 sanctions. I recommend, to whomever wishes to sanction us, that they do choose carefully. It would be hard to cripple or even harm an alliance with over 100 members .
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So your telling me that our anger at them is unjustifable because Kaskus is getting a beat down? You said yourself that they have yet to be defeated until they surrender themselves. I'm not twisting your words, you're contradicting yourself. The longer this goes on, the worse it should be for them. Our fairest offers came pre-war. And our emperor was not lying. We went to get US. Have we gotten him yet? Regardless of what you think may or may not be enough, it is up to us to seek satisfaction. Kaskus was, and still is, jerking us around. They should by all accounts pay for that. Once again you underestimate our anger at this situation.
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Oh, I'm beginning to see the problem. I probably didn't realize this sooner because it seemed obvious to me. You think all NSO wanted to do was attack Kaskus for a "small crime". Once again I'll say that your lack of involvement in this situation is what causes you to be wrong. You see, you clearly underestimate how pissed off we sith are over the circumstances of this war. You chalk this behavior up to arrogance but in reality it's sheer wrath.
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The present and the future are out of context without the past, regardless of what could have been. Ignoring the past does not strengthen your argument, though you clearly have no problems citing it for precendent. Still, you clearly missed the point altogether. My logic isn't saying Kaskus is the aggressor for not accepting terms, my logic is that they are the aggressor for allowing the war to exist. I don't think it's wrong of us to want reparations for the problems they caused us. I think an apology in these circumstances is perfectly normal. In fact, that's the whole point of reparations. Without that, the consequences for having causing us this much trouble are not nearly great enough to discourage it from others in the future. So, not only does the past not matter to you, but neither does the future. Your entire argument is wrapped up in the present, an attempt to make it seem like Kaskus shouldn't be held accountable. After all, how did they wrong us today? They didn't so we shouldn't be warring them. In the grand scheme of things, you're dead wrong.
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Your lack of involvement doesn't make you more objective. It might have if your blatant distaste for the sith hadn't gotten in the way, though I doubt it. There is no arrogance in the sith, this is a rather ignorant accusation. You say that Kaskus is fighting for a reasonable end to the war, but they could have reasonably avoided the war with no bad blood to begin with. NSO may have the OWF declaration, but to declare war after being wronged is not quite the same thing as declaring war with the intent of wrongdoing. NSO isn't blood thirsty, but we will do what we have to do. Kaskus' actions against us and their refusal to resolve it peacably makes them the offender, regardless of who wrote the DoW. All you could say in their defense is that they're niave, but that's no excuse for imprudence. Your opinion doesn't matter though. This, along with the rest of my post, is true. Your first mistake is that you think the OWF matters to the sith. Why would we care when all our allies support us? NSO is a group with strong bonds among our friends. The wishy-washy OWF and all it's paradoxical opinions can shove it. Your second mistake (though admittedly I doubt it was your intent) is that you seem to be making the claim that you speak on behalf of the OWF. Who was the arrogant one again?
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I like how you claim it's a lie as if the truth you believe in is objectively true despite your complete lack of involvement in the situation (aside from some side show ramblings). So far their dealings with us have been contrary to any well reasoned course of action. Sounds rogueish to me. However, that could be entirely dependent on your point of view. We think of them as rogues because we see they have nothing to fight for and continue fighting anyway. You think of them not as rogues because you think they have something to fight for. But like I said, you have no place in this war, so your opinion doesn't matter.
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Hey, I just met you And this is crazy But here's a sanction So screw you, maybe? Welcome to the battlefield Shangri-La.
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[quote name='wickedj' timestamp='1357797453' post='3073645'] brb aiding I aint afraid of no NPO [/quote] You still in my range? We'd finally get to have that war we talked about so fondly years ago.
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See, I new, I just NEW something was fishy about those kaskus aid screens. Thanks for your support Pacifica
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[quote name='Salmia' timestamp='1356579303' post='3068281'] Considering you probably went on during your times and you would have a hard time knowing who is an IRON member, I have hard time believing your criteria of a channel since you don't particularly seem to show any. Timezones differ and activity varies with it. Also, it is holiday time, it is expected for people to be busy with relatives and not answer communications. [/quote] Wait, did you just respond to this thread seriously? Oh my....
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[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1356578697' post='3068273'] [color=#0000ff]I do not see MK on this list.[/color] [/quote] Who cares about MK?
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Guys, Jem gave everyone a shot and there was only one, very simple rule: Wait 5 seconds in each channel, if nobody speaks this alliance sucks. Quite frankly, I'm happy SOMEONE finally said something to you all. Get your stuff together Bob
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[quote name='Rokula' timestamp='1355938964' post='3065889'] o/ Kaskus Make those racists in the NSO burn. Cybernations does not need anymore boneheaded racist scum skinking up our game. [/quote] An ignorant person calling us ignorant. Libel is a crime you know....
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[quote name='Emperor Marx' timestamp='1355894164' post='3065662'] I wonder if Kaskus will respond in the same manner they do with all normal open-and-shut cases by throwing out the rule book and going full retard. [/quote] Such things hardly need to be left to wonder about.
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[quote name='Dilber' timestamp='1344468139' post='3019911'] When Rayvon isn't on, I finally have the keys to 1,000 nukes again. [/quote] You ought to take them out for a spin some time. On topic: this won't last.
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Terrible news indeed. I can only hope it was painless. My condolences to Pacifica and Moo's family and friends.
