Bama, as much as I support TPF's position on this, I think there's no point in arguing this futher. The overwhelming majority are in favor of this hypocritic, phony "Karma" movement so no matter how much your arguments make sense, are for a just cause, or are reasonable, they will be battled at every turn by Karma's followers. No matter what you say your words will be twisted up and thrown back at you. For now the advice I would give you is to live to fight another day. No matter how unfair it seems to be paying reps to someone who stabbed you in the back. Your alliance has a chance at survival but you must swallow your pride for awhile.