Moridin

No we did not. We never declared war on NPO, the state of war existed after you took offense to our possession of a senate seat. So really you are twisting history around for convenience sake, sorry.

Post-WotC, Polar no longer considered itself at war with any old alliances, a good example being FAN. Though perhaps in hindsight that was a mistake...

I never knew it was possible for an OP to suck so much. I wish you all the best of luck in being something more than a pathetic remake of a miserable alliance.

Yes it is clearly Ivan's fault that RIA challenged NSO to a 1v1 match. Go complain to Delta.

Hey guys, NEWSFLASH. Nobody owes you a war, you do not have a right to a war when you are bored. If you want a war, go start one or else shut up and stop complaining. The thing that pisses me off the most about this whole situation is everybody has been complaining for months on end about how there's no conflict anymore and everything is boring and then when NSO actually starts some drama everyone cries bloody murder. Then when it ends up with a 1v1 match everybody reverts to moaning about how there's no war. Figure out what the hell you want then go get it, nobody wants to hear your whining.

I get that you didn't want this to go public but that's not very solid ground for denying it outright.

Clearly, otherwise Ivan couldn't accept it... this is pretty straightforward, really.

It is heartening to see SCM has come to his senses and decided to right his wrongs.

Where's the evidence you didn't do it? Is it okay to accuse someone of something just because there's no evidence to the contrary?

Good to see that things are looking up for UED with KDII out of the way.

You mean except the time he agreed to settle for less than what he demanded?

You weren't just accusing an individual, you accused the entire alliance, because you realized you had absolutely no evidence to support your outlandish claims, so you broadened the scope of your accusations to include the entire alliance because by gosh, if it wasn't youwish it had better be somebody you can look cool calling out. I'm laughing already.

...or was it BDC that rolled NPO? Which is it now??

I still don't get what is so complicated about it?

I like how you tried to cast doubt on whether they are members or rogues when NSO has a clear stance on the issue. That's probably one of the most idiotic attempts at an argument I've seen in this thread yet. Maybe it's difficult for you to understand something as complex as the notion that the guy was once a member and now is a rogue?

Yes, that is much more likely than that NSO is not attacking DF.

If I ever go unaligned I know for a fact I will nuke anybody who tries to tech raid me; there is nothing more joyous than watching someone go in trying to make a profit and come out behind. I'm not sure how this would justify the raider running to daddy for help though, seeing as how it could have been avoided by simply not raiding. Anyone who brings in backup because it turned out their victim defended themselves is a coward.

Sounds like you just found the wrong friends. I have a couple friends in CN, but that doesn't mean my interests are automatically their interests. Yes, it is probable that a significant portion of CN would ditch you under the right (or wrong) circumstances or at least act in opposition to your best interests, but such is the real world as well - it is a rare friend that will actually stay with you through everything. I would agree that on average, a friendship in CN is probably built on a shakier foundation than in real life, especially because of conflicting loyalties to alliances, but I don't find it is so extreme as you seem to believe. If you build a friendship on something other than an in-game relationship it is much more likely to weather something like a war. As for alliances, there is no such thing as a lasting alliance friendship. Alliance friendships are built on personal friendships between members and common experiences, and even if those are great at some point in time, as new players join and old players leave the game that will eventually change.

I'm no FA expert, but I was under the impression the world had moved on from attacking people for posts they make. Regardless, Polar's name need not be invoked in every pissing match that involves NSO. I am sure both sides can keep flinging mud at each other without our help.

When did we become involved in this?

Sent. I'll keep sending another 3 mil after every 100 tech as long as you like.

Usually when you are trying to smear someone with clever literary references you compare them to the villain, not the hero. Good try though!

A month before the war, Electron Sponge was couped and Random was forced to step down because NPO didn't like him. Polar had its leadership removed just as \m/ did, the only differences were the reason for which they were removed, and the caliber of the leaders that replaced them. I don't think TPF qualifies as "most"; Genmay and GOONS and various other alliances were still fighting at that point. Regardless, it's a terrible point, considering Polar actually did have most of its allies cancel in the time leading up to the War of the Coalition. In fact, that war was much more lopsided against Polar than the UJW was against the UJP even after the departure of TPF. \m/ got those 'terms' because it was only slightly more than a week into the war and \m/ was begging for peace. Unless my take on the Coalition is very much mistaken, Polar wouldn't have received real terms after such a short time either. I don't get how or why this thread turned into an \m/ pity party; no alliance that gives up and disbands 9 days into a war deserves sympathy in my book. \m/ certainly faced serious challenges that most alliances haven't faced, and I wouldn't doubt that there are other alliances out there today that would cave under similar circumstances. Polar, however, faced very similar challenges and pulled through nonetheless. Maybe if \m/ hadn't decided to disband they could have rebuilt and become a power once again; we'll never know, because the alliance decided to give up when the going got tough.

What a clever bluff! I continue to be amazed by Hal's ingenuity.

You lied to them by saying you did take screenshots? If you are for some strange reason actually telling the truth, your case isn't much better. The only reason you would do that is to convince them you had valuable information, and so they would consequently do what you want. So, rather than espionage, all you are guilty of is blackmail. Wonderful!