Elderago

wow a Moderate NPO member !, who would have thought seriously though 90 % of an alliance out of peace mode is ridiculous even coming from someone who has disliked NPO, if people are inflexible nothing will be solved... also note I agree with lord of port, OOC/ people lighten up it's a game /OOC

Wow, this isb the best thing I have seen in some time it pretty much sums up my own thoughts as of this point heh but that said I really can't argue against the logic here

really ? aren't the " brainwashed" followers being punished along with the larger nations who comited the crimes > ..or perhaps because "karma" (not blaming the moderator I am sure you already had a tough time negotiating terms) had the upper hand and felt the NPO should suffer the type of terms they gave only ten times as worse ? Now i am not saying NPO should have gotten off scott free but I find the amount of self- justifaction for these kind of terms pretty pathetic, since really all "karma" wanted was to settle past grudges and get revenge for what happened in the past...

Oh I see I am not mentioned there eh congrats OTF maybe I'll probably comeback...some day (after I am done with RIA or an allience or two)

and so the wheel continues to turn nothing changes, nothing has been learned from this war, like GOONS, FAN and many more the perceived enemy is dealt harsh terms with the self-justification of "you earned it" when in reality it is merely settling past grudges... I never liked the NPO, in fact I can honestly say I despised the alliance, but what are we "karma" doing here doesn't anybody see that history is repeating it self ?, Most would "they earned it" but hasn't the reasoning been used in the past ? but I guess that's how politics on planet bob has always worked

OTF for about a year and a half finally got restless and went over to RIA been there for 70 days and am quite happy with the craziness there

c-zom actually was really good, the only problem I had was that I thought c-zom and painkiller were two diffrent people man did that cause confusion...

good sir please pass me a scone "sips tea" I must say the curretn event are just a trifle disturbing, do you not agree ?

you know at this point I don't think the NPO has any time to manipulate, and even if they do they have basically lost all credibility thanks to this war. anyways i for once agree with (omg I can't believe I am saying this) vladimir, he has a point. there really is no base amount of reps, it can be changed anytime, and even then why would or should they agree to reparations they are aware that it will be insanly high and as such they would rather fight to ZI then face reps... and you know what if that there choice I accept it, no point on arguing on how large the reps will be if they aren't going to surrender. OOC: it's 2:02 in the morning so if this doesn't make any sense my apologize, I'll rephrase it later today if needed

thats not what I meant they put themselves into this position due to their history, NOT because of peace mode, they can go into peace for all I care, I have admittingly done so after being nuked so I could recuperate my losses.

lets be honest here NPO put themselves into this position, they could have taken terms (albit those were quite slanted) and they didn't. there is no threats of E-ZI or P-ZI if the except terms, they did not violate any previous terms (like fan), this whole war is different from the end of the unjust war, were by and large a whole lot of alliances were force to disband.

good luck I hope eternal grow quickly (again) it's amazing how many formaly dsbanded alliances are being reformed though

I oppose E-ZI'ing NPO reducing to rubbles I am not so much against

we must work together to protect the Truffula trees from the grinch

fair enough modus good luck with your humanitarian cause

this is nice to see however, according to the Moldavi doctrine your not consider an allience if your under 50 nations (I believe). basically unless either these small micro alliances start mass recruiting or other alliances move to red (yes I know Vox has) , your not making a significant impact on the NPO's control over the red sphere

this is true however I could also say the same about Vladamir's philosophical topics on francoism

this is true however even those nations in peace mode will have to come out a some point, maybe a few weeks or a month but eventually those large nations with massive war cheste are going to start having problems with there bills, I mean -9 happiness and funds cut in half ? they will either come out some day or end up bill locking themselves, although that would take a very long time.

different goons AA but there are also a lot of former members from the original, hmm makes me wonder if this new goons is just the same old alliance under a diffrent AA allied to the NPO to prevent future issues with pacifica as well as to avoid a lot of attention... ehem sorry unproven conspiracy theory, never mind...

there was a time were Polaris was viewed as no different from Pacifica, it was only during and after the war of coalitions did Polaris begin to change.

took three nukes during this war heh, I was lucky, although I have gone from 5.3k infra to 4,264 infra and lost about 400 tech oh well no complaints here anyways after that first nuke the novalty starts to wear off...

sparta is back as #1,I think this going to be on going trend for some time

I am also the same way HOWEVER when it is needed you aren't begging,begging would be asking constantly for aid... in this case you are hurting yourself by not asking for aid, but it is your choice, good luck in real life

how many alliences are left before FAN is truly free ?

NPO is back at #1 simply because of the fact they have about 200 more nukes then Sparta...