Burning Glory

First! Yes this was a raid, a ground attacks only raid with minimal deployment, on cautious attacks! I then declared peace and sent an appoloigy message for raiding his nation and any damage i may have caused. Second a raid is not a war, it is just that, a raid....hense not using CM's and AF, or attacking with aggressive attacks! And trying not to anarchy his nation! Third, you not only turned this into a war by trying to roll me with an all out attack on my nation by you and 2 other nations you also made a post on the fourms to taunt me and told me so! plus your member Strykewolf sent several messages to harass me and said some pretty foul stuff. Fourth, you said you wanted peace after you destroyed my nation, yet at update you attacked me again for a third time, and i had not attacked you....yeah some peace! Fifth, then you talked about peace again so i peaced you out, then your member pulse attacks me again today and tells me moreles he's not peacing. I may have raided but so does 90+ % of TE, even your self as you have stated, don't tell me that if you got rolled and done dirty like you guys did me that your AA mates would not jump in to help you, especially if you were done the way you guys did me as stated above! Then you try to make it as a just cause, that you had all rights to defend your nation, when your nation that I raided had sent me a meassage telling me he was sorry for they way you guys rolled me, and excepted my peace. He also so said that he understood that the way you guy handled it was wrong and asked if i was going to have my AA help me out, then asked not to be hit for your improper defense of his nation! My fun in this game is to grow, to raid lightly, to make friends and keep this game fun for all who play it. Does TPF get raided, yes......we have never attacked a nation with three of ours and went all out. We do defend, but half the time its a warning pm to declare peace or face a defense team and the other half is 1 or 2 nations declaring with GA's only to give a firm warning! There is no alliance in this game that would let you do the things you have done, and not defend their nation! There is no alliance that will agree that you guys handled this correctly! Then you talk about not calling in help yet! TPF has many friends, we respect our friends, we fight to protect our friends And our friends will not let us get hit because you think what you did was in the right, when you are sadly mistaken. Even in your own pms you said you were in the wrong and asked how you could avoid this mistake from any future nations, which i explained the way we deal with raiders. So now that my AA has jumped in to help me out, you guys all of a sudden want out...we are now bullies! Come on man! Raiding is not being a bully, as even you do it, and protecting your AA mate from a tag team of three nations , who quad attack you say they will now want peace then attack again, then get peace and have the third nation attack yet again. Seems you don't want peace but want everyone to think you do, i have the PM's and the attack messages to prove you went against your word of peace. So where do we go from here....well i have seen no real intrest by your side to offer peace, unless they are attacked into giving it! So are you now saying you surrender and will except peace, for real this time? or is it another trick to get my guys to back off and then hit again?

One of our first MADP's from last round, and some of our greatest friends! we wanted to make things public....its a bad ideal to declare on UC, they can not only hold their own but have many friends who would gladly sacrifice their nation to defend them! Plus they make great mud pies!! BG.

Agreed, this is no place for diplomacy that is resolved in private channels. Another note; The proper responce to a nation ghosting or not would be to either send a warning PM or have 2 or 3 fellow nations declare with only ground attacks as a firm warning. Just my opinion, for what its worth my friend!

OH....I didn't know that, i guess Viridia dosen't either,lol. Thanks KDL/Bill!

Same to you, and HAPPY HOLIDAYS from TPF!!

KD, you lost me on that one.......

lol, well you know what the say about the color aqua don't you...... Its the new red! Love is in the air, lol!

LOL, I won't go there!!

Our family just keeps growing, pretty soon we may need to look for a bigger house.......Get your feet out of my a**, and scoot over

Seems you have an $@! hat on your hands, you should level him just for that! I have attacked many nations when raiding on Defcon 5, and won every time. The eff rating has alot to do with your war outcome, and funny enough, i've lost a few in defcon 1 and my odds were in the 70% range, heh go figure...... BG.

Congrats to both sides! Coming from an alliance that has friends on both sides and was torn between the Luz we have for both. I had tried to stop this through back doors and private channels but sadly was unable. I was asked to join by opponents from both sides and really didn't know which way to turn as i thought one or the other would be upset for me doing nothing. It was when the team of Judgment offered that they would not ask TPF to join as long as we sat this out completely. We at TPF sadly watched our friends duke it out, but are please that a better alliance and each side having a new respect for one another has surfaced from this war! PEACE my friends! BG.

A new friendship for TPF has grown and added to our family of Warmongers, we welcome the G bunch with open arms! ummm i mean a firm handshake! Yeah thats what i meant. BG.

And yet again a friendship rolled to round 3, Viridia is full of great people and great warriors, its no wonder we get along so well! BG.

Another friendship rolled foward, and again necessary to make public. Tech raiders move on as they are well protected by us and other allies! On a brighter note, a few of them a single and open for dating!! lol JK, I really don't know if they are open to it or not, you could try though.....

This is nothing new as our friendship rolls from the last round as with many of our friends, We just felt it necessary to make it public....Beware Tech raiders OTAN is not an easy target. But they are a lovable bunch. lol!

TPF couldn't ask for a better friendship then that of its friends, and TF has shown its true friendship, and we would like to welcome them to the team. Any act of aggression on them will be delt with by both alliances. Thanks guys!! BG.

Alliance: The Phoenix Federation - TPF Forum URL: http://s1.zetaboards.com/Phoenix_TE IRC Channel/server: #tpfTE Color: White Great job man!!

Best treaty i've seen so far...I think i might copy it! Unless i can come up with something funnier, nahh to much work. lol!

LOL, thats funny....I just set up the same thing yesterday! Your following me PB aren't you,lol! Congrats Guys!! BG

mmm....Our circile is getting bigger! Well done guys!! BG.

Yep, next to TPF! lol, sup PB? BG.

This was always a given for both of us TPF and MI, but now its formal as both of our alliances have noticed that some alliances/ nations are trying to bring us down....reap havoc so to speak! Let it stand for the record that if you attack MI, you also fight us! BG

Smart move Crimson!!

Some how things got blown way out of proportion here, it isn't unfair to want to protect your alliance! After all, that the reason most nations join alliances. So anyone disagreeing with this, do you have a better solution? I feel it is just cause, and in fact implicating the very same rules for TPF. No we're not a giant in TE but we have many friends and allies, and most of us (TPF) are in other alliances anyway. There are many AA with none to which all bigger alliances can raid. As far as the smaller alliances well the old 10 or less members is fair game applies here...... BG.

I was searching for a meaning to this topic, and sadly ended up with the general consensus, This post is lacking in sense!