Burning Glory

I have addressed the issue here; http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=44208 I feel as neo has been pushing things again, and will make a public announcement shortly!

I LOL'D..... ALSO, i still see no answer for the question Thais asked from either side! Can we please just start working towards a common ground for you two ? BG.

LOL, no we would never DOW PornStar, maybe a raid or 2 but nothing serious!! LOL. Also that E muscle means nothing, i have see over half the AA's post that same thing or pretty close to it anyway. Hell i remember seeing it from like a 8 or 9 member AA and i LOL, thinking to myself....what the heck could they do to the 20 something member AA. BG.

Congrats guys, UW is a good bunch of peeps! What war? LOL!!!

I happen to think this is sad, one friend fighting another friend and it keeps getting escaladed to this, soon to be more i'm sure as i have checked the MADP treaties and it appears they also have friends. So i ask where is this going to solve anything, every nation in this game raids...period! I have my own opinions of how this could of been different and myself tried many times to get this to stop....just read back through the post! In all fairness i have seen many post by NAAW to try for peace and BW just keep turning it down, along with my offer to be a peace broker. TPF has many friends and Genesis is one of them, we even had an MADP on the table with CDT, and i personally made friends with boomer from mash last round, and all of this is why TPF members have never raided any of them. TPF values its friends and their sovernty (if thats spelled corectly) But even though we do not have an MADP with NAAW, we still have friends among them as well, and friends amoung their allies whom we do have an MADP with. So i ask every friend and nation and leader involved in this to stop this here and now before this turns into the worst war in TE history! TPF is being put in a hard place with this, and we would like to see this resolved quickly, hournably, and peacefully! As stated before i'm willing to broker the peace deal, and peace need to start somewhere!

I was under the impression this was handled! especially since i was the one who brokered the deal, and sent you notice via in game pm. Plus they did as asked and printed a public appoloigy, in which they admitted they screwed up! Since i was the first person contacted by Max, NEO's leader I took the proper steps to contact the leader and gov of LEO to get this resolved peacefully. I stated this in verious post on the fourms, and spoke to AZTEK to keep them out of it. I will also say that MAX didn't offer to defend any of his members or for that matter send word or organize an attack to help defend his own AA! He instead came to the AA's of his treaty partners asking for defense. I also feel he has feed our partners for the past 2 rounds UW, bullcrap, thus getting you guy involved when i told him it was taken care of. BG.

Well to all those in BW, this is in public.......NAAW is offering a white peace, and seems to want this behind them. I think its time to wipe the slate clean and grow from this. I've always been an advocate of diplomatic solutions, this is where it starts once its turned this bad. Bg.

Some old friends in a new alliance that is already classy, only equals great peeps! Welcom to our bloc CB!!!

Its not with out saying that any act of AGGRESSION against MHA is the same against TPF! So i am announcing TPF's involvment as well, we are Dowing PS for their failer to leave the past round in the past. I have invited ALL TPF nations to join the fight against PS and I also invite ALL of TPF's Allies to join as well! TO PS; You guys need to let the past round die! this is a new round and a new start. MHA is nothing like you have stated, and are very close friends of TPF! What you have done is cowardly, hiding and then attacking a blind side!

Congrats guys! Of course every AA knows that MHA and TPF are like brothers, twins even! Just one is a little taller than the other. LOL!

You know, when we talked last round i began to like you, nothing has changed since this round. I try to be fair to everyone in any situation, this if looked at from the begining is a serious of wrong choices that has escaladed to this point...I still feel that your defense of a 4 to 1 was excessive, nothing will change my mind on that, guess you need it to happen to you to get where i'm coming from! You are a good guy, but based on that i feel that the start off was BW's fault...I know it was in defense of a raid, but man a raid is just that nothing personal and surley not a DOW which an all out assult would eventually lead to. NAAW may have their blame in this as well, but in all honesty i really really think that if the shoes were reversed on any AA (as i've been there) they would of done the same. Now is your time to get things settled. bg

Are you serious! I really have no problem accept with people who are rude! Your making your way to that list. BW turned this into a war, unless you think its ok to have your nation rolled for a simple raid. IF so give me your nation name and i'll make sure that if you do any raiding it happens! If you haven't been reading the post then don't comment on them, i have tried several times to get this a peaceful ending! And also i have some what friendship in BW, ahhh, i think thats been said in here to by BW leadership! I have also stated how much i hate asshatery, and you are pushing the bounds of it! I'm also a senator and if you think its cool to get sanctioned just let me know, i'll make sure it happens! And as i calm myself down, you need to learn some respect...same as i give and expect! BG.

lol, oh i'm not concerned about them...its you aa that i was tring to show the light to! And as i stated before, a raid does not equal a war! And from what i know, the other AA's of this game will soon be in to raid your weaken nation as they are depleted of their infra. Do you really want this? BG.

Article I: Mutual Defense The Phoenix Federation and AZTEC will not engage in acts of aggression upon one another, and shall honor all requests for military assistance should either find itself under attack by an outside party. A) If either Alliance encounters a conflict of treaty obligations under this article; the non-waring alliance shall try Diplomatic solutions first and act as a peace negotiator. B) If all attempts to resolve the conflict fail, the other is oblagated to defend. Article II: Optional Aggression The Phoenix Federation has the option to engage in offensive actions that AZTEC takes, but is not obligated, and vice versa. Article III: Cancellation Should either alliance feel the need to withdraw from the agreement, they shall notify the other alliance privately. A 48 hour cancellation period shall be in effect from the time that an alliance is notified of cancellation We have decided to make our friendship with AZTEC public. The members of AZTEC are great peeps, and our friendship has remained strong! BG.

Only if it was the same nation raiding you guys a second time, and after a warning that this would be the defense of it! A warning is a warning, and if not heeded then thats the chance you take! his bad! So work on getting this resolved if this is the case!! BG.

Well coming from an AA that also raids i think the policy should be laxed! Lets say one of your guys raided an AA that also did the same thing to your member that you guys did. Would you just let your member get rolled? And over two simple GA's....... I would think that you would defend him, and thus support my argument for improper use of defense. I'm not apposed to a defense, but you can show a proper defense by a simple warning pm or if this was a second raid by this nation against your members, then 2 or 3 nationd declaring and attacking with GA's only!! not all out WAR. TPF has never done anything more than this. Thats not to say that we have not rolled an ASSHAT for dirty talk and continued attacks, unwilling to peace out. It sounds to me like you guys want to keep this going.....This is you call, but i really don't see this going well for either side! PM me for a solution to this. BG.

Where as i will say, Bill and i are friends, but this really has no bearing on my thoughts in this situation. I, as you know me as well am one of the most fairest guys in the game. I see where you were raided first, yes....But i see where you did a three on one tag team for a raid, and its told to me you guys went all out war on this nation, for 2 basic raid GA's. This is an over use of force and a reason for his members to defend him, as any AA would do! It simply escaladed from there. The hournable thing to do would be an attempt to get this resolved from that point.....however its not to late to do this now! As stated in the other topic, I willing to come to the table to get this done!! BG.

Well there were a few of you, as i defended some of you and i couldn't really remember you guys nation names if they are even the same. However i also hold a senate seat and would never sanction a bunch of members in the same AA over war regaurdless of the situation. I have a very strong dislike against ASSHATS, i do not know the lagistics of the situation, but sanctioning is at the very end of the tatics for war and should be used to try and get peace not escalade it! I have no personal ill will towards BW but i wouldn't put up with a roll of one of my nations for a simple raid.....Infact TPF and friends has rolled 2 entire AA's for this same improper use of defense. I am willing to come to the table with NAAW and BW to get this resolved, if you truely want peace! BG.

LOL, Gant this is something the Admin will have to change for round 4! Also you know TPF's door is always open to my old friend! After a brief discussion and with out making it public LEO has agree they were in the wrong and this public appoloigy is a fair show of an hournable alliance! Good luck to you guys! As of this Topic post time ALL attacking nations against LEO, UW, and NEO are to send pease ASAP!!!! My thanks to all involved!! BG.

Let me cast my vote in public......This was not only low and uncalled for, it was also a bad show of character on behalf of your AA! Last round i had become friends with a few members from BW and tried to get peace between them and a unnamed AA. This round you guys are not showing you have an hournable side! BG.

Well we don't have a protectorate with them...We have an MADP, which means that we have an oblagation to join if asked! Also we have one with UN so i guess if needed they are in by default! Its no guess who else we have one with. As i said before, i hope this gets resolved quickly! I'm still in the air as to why this even happened in the first place, and awaiting the leader of LEO's confrence.

Let there be no mistake, this is not an MADP....this is a merger into TPF ANY act of aggresion is and will be considered as an act of war and will be delt with as such! On another note, meet our New MoIA, he works very close with me, and knows my thoughts on most things! That was his first post....he has broken his cherry,lol!!

Heh, I want a war flag....Some Alliances have all the cool stuff! I bet they even have a hot tub in their war chamber. BG.

LOL, Some people like that sort of thing!! Me....well my wife complains when i get dirt on the carpet, poo would get me banned from the house,lol!

Where as i would of liked to see this end peacefully, it appears this is escalading quickly! As i stated before MAX was in talks with other AA's for his defense, this was one of them. guess i don't have to tell you who #2 and #3 are. I hope this is resolved quickly! BG.