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In fairness to tC, I've got to say that their alleged suppression of free speech seemed to operate much more at the alliance level than the individual level. In other words, they might've singled out alliances that weren't willing to accept their rule, but an individual ruler could certainly call them out publically without getting ZI'd.

Since Karma took over I've been disappointed by some of the actions that have taken place by those in power. At the same time, these injustices seem much more chaotic - not a part of systematic consolidation of political control. And there has been considerable public backlash at times: look at the Athens-KoN situation, and Polaris unilaterally attacking \m/

So there are some elements of Karma that I think are living up to their lofty talk during the war. They just happen to be allied with elements from UJP 2.0. So I guess we'll see how that works out.

I never got threatened with ZI, but I did have to apologize in an attempted humiliating way.

It's all relative. A paper cut is no less annoying now even if we broke our leg two years ago.

In fairness to tC, I've got to say that their alleged suppression of free speech seemed to operate much more at the alliance level than the individual level. In other words, they might've singled out alliances that weren't willing to accept their rule, but an individual ruler could certainly call them out publically without getting ZI'd.

Since Karma took over I've been disappointed by some of the actions that have taken place by those in power. At the same time, these injustices seem much more chaotic - not a part of systematic consolidation of political control. And there has been considerable public backlash at times: look at the Athens-KoN situation, and Polaris unilaterally attacking \m/

So there are some elements of Karma that I think are living up to their lofty talk during the war. They just happen to be allied with elements from UJP 2.0. So I guess we'll see how that works out.

Up until IRON cleared its ZI lists quietly before the karma war, IRON had many more PZI/EZI/whatevers nations than NPO generally did at the time. Even then they were a far cry than what people like(d) to think they were - but it's not as if facts ever really matter in the face of overwhelming propaganda. Granted we probably didn't help that reputation by attempting to scare people away from vox by suggesting all who joined would be PZI.

The last few years have for me, been an interesting lesson. Having been part of the whole tC gang myself I personally never really had a full view of the 'abuses' that we were responsible for, and to me I often felt that it was entirely exaggerated and at the end of the day without substance.

Now I take significantly more notice of the 'abuses' committed by SF/CNG. I suppose the harm is always more severe in the perspective of the victim than the victimizer. It would be nice to think that those running the current group had learned something from their own experience at the bottom , but I do wonder if they have yet to gain a full understanding of how greatly their own power and position blinds them.

Nations come and go from CN everyday, it has been a year and a half, it is time to collectively move past all of the ill feelings. Post karma was supposed to be a time of new beginnings. I have not seen NPO strike out for revenge, or try to harm any alliance for that matter. It is kind of silly that prejudice persists among some groups.

In either case nice write up Comrade .