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Opportunism in it's Latest

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Hello Cybernations, well i'm sick of Opportunism in it's latest (/me looks at alliances like Sparta) Anyways. As many of you know TOP and Co. Where given terms by CnG and Bandwaggoners or those people who claim to only have honored there treaty. I'll get back to this anyways. Here are the terms to those who haven't seem them,

Terms of surrender of The Order of the Paradox (TOP), Independent Republic of Orange Nations (IRON), Democratic Alliance of Wise Nations (DAWN), The Sweet Oblivion (TSO), and The Order of Righteous Nations (TORN) - collectively hereafter referred to as TIDTT.

General

1. TIDTT admits defeat and surrenders to the collective forces of the Complaints & Grievances Union, and their allies in Sparta, Mostly Harmless Alliance, The Grämlins, Fark, Nemesis, Dark Fist, The Brigade, The Resistance, Aloha, Aircastle, The Jedi Order, Prism Protection Front, Siberian Tiger Alliance, New Polar Order, The Alliance of Angry Bees, FOK, Christian Coalition of Countries, Federation of Armed Nations, BaCoN, Ronin, Global Alliance and Treaty Organization, Umbrella, Imperial Assault Alliance, Open Source Alliance, Genesis, Eldar, and the Order of the Black Rose.

Reparations

2. TIDTT shall pay reparations in the amounts outlined below. In the case of both reparations paid directly by TIDTT and of TIDTT paying for tech deals from other alliances, it is the responsibility of TIDTT to ensure that payments reach targets specified by the receiving alliances.

3. TOP shall pay the following reparations:

300K tech to the Complaints & Grievances Union. Up to 150K tech may be purchased by TOP from nations of other alliances at their discretion & coordination.

25K tech to Sparta.

7.5K tech and $105 Million to Dark Fist.

5K tech to The Brigade.

5K tech to The Resistance.

2.9K tech to Nemesis.

4. IRON shall pay the following reparations:

150K tech to the Complaints & Grievances Union. Up to 50K tech may be purchased by IRON from nations of other alliances at their discretion & coordination.

15K tech to Sparta.

6K tech paid for at a rate of 3m per 150 tech for Fark and a Beer Review which must meet their criteria.

6K tech paid for at a rate of 3m per 150 tech for Grämlins

IRON shall agree to provide BACoN with unlimited cast iron frying pans for bacon cooking purposes

a good bourbon review from IRON leaders for FAN

5. DAWN shall pay the following reparations:

10K tech to the Complaints & Grievances Union. Up to 5K tech may be purchased by DAWN from nations of other alliances at their discretion & coordination.

5K tech and 200M to IAA (SHARED WITH TORN)

6K tech to Grämlins, 3K of which is paid for at a rate of 150/3m

500 tech and a Beer Review for Fark which must meet their criteria.

6. TSO shall pay the following reparations:

40K tech to the Complaints & Grievances Union. Up to 20K tech may be purchased by TSO from nations of other alliances at their discretion & coordination.

10K tech to GATO or it's equivalent in cash at $3mil per 100 or any combonation thereof.

5K tech to OSA and a short essay of no less than 400 words on why GNU/Linux is a superior operating system to Windows. Up to 2.5K tech may be purchased by TSO from nations of other alliances at their discretion & coordination.

5K tech to Genesis. Up to 2.5K tech may be purchased by TSO from nations of other alliances at their discretion & coordination.

5K tech to Ronin. Up to 2.5K tech may be purchased by TSO from nations of other alliances at their discretion & coordination.

7. TORN shall pay the following reparations:

10K tech to the Complaints & Grievances Union. Up to 5K tech may be purchased by TORN from nations of other alliances at their discretion & coordination.

5K tech and 200M to IAA (SHARED WITH DAWN)

8. TIDTT alliances and their members shall not engage in inter-alliance aid except aid required to pay reparations.

Length of Terms

9. These terms shall last individually for each TIDTT alliance. When an alliance has completed the full payment of their reparations to designated targets from each receiving alliance, their time subject to these terms is complete.

First of all to all you Opportunistic B*s*a*d* (Sparta, Darf Fist, The Brigade, The Resistance, Nemesis, FARK, Gremlins, GATO, Ronin, and IAA.) Who got attacked here, CnG or you opportunists. I Fully Support that CnG should get the reps they specified Because they where the ones to get attacked, now for the rest of you who claim to have entered the conflict on a "Mutual Defense" Clause, well then why are you asking for reps, well I mean from some alliances like Sparta it's expected but seriously we all know the only Alliance that actually deserves reps of some kind are CnG.

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Alterego

These alliances want to be compensated or paid for fulfilling their treaty obligations. They are the best friends an alliance could have...as long as they get paid that is. Gramlins have fallen a long way and are no longer an honourable alliance.What happened to the Codex of War?

II. On Reparations

The Grämlins shall not pay reparations for defensive wars and shall not demand reparations for offensive wars.

III. On Peace Terms

Peace terms shall not be used to humilate the opponent or to cripple him economically beyond the need to remove the current and immediate threat to the alliance. No terms shall be offered which The Grämlins would not consider acceptable if the sides were switched. The terms shall reflect the opponents' behavior during battle.

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Rocky Horror

These alliances want to be compensated or paid for fulfilling their treaty obligations. They are the best friends an alliance could have...as long as they get paid that is. Gramlins have fallen a long way and are no longer an honourable alliance.What happened to the Codex of War?

Were you any good at algebra, at school?
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SpacingOutMan

These alliances want to be compensated or paid for fulfilling their treaty obligations. They are the best friends an alliance could have...as long as they get paid that is. Gramlins have fallen a long way and are no longer an honourable alliance.What happened to the Codex of War?

To your first quote: please reread what you highlighted. They won't pay reparations for a defensive war. That doesn't mean they can't request reps, it means they won't pay reparations demanded of them.

To your second quote: please reread the quote as a whole. They find reparations equivalent to the crime to be wholly acceptable. TOP et. al. launched a preemptive attack on CnG, brought in all of its allies who had mandatory/obligatory military treaties, and really expected to get out of this scot free when peace came around?

No, that's not how it works. The reparations requested by Gramlins is hardly the crux of the majority of the reparations being demanded in that draft of the treaty.

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TBRaiders

These alliances want to be compensated or paid for fulfilling their treaty obligations. They are the best friends an alliance could have...as long as they get paid that is. Gramlins have fallen a long way and are no longer an honourable alliance.What happened to the Codex of War?

I know you always toe the party line with your side of the web, but that is just retarded. This was not an offensive war for GRE.

II. On Reparations

The Grämlins shall not pay reparations for defensive wars and shall not demand reparations for offensive wars.

This means they refuse to pay reps for defending themselves or their allies. It also means if they offensively attack someone, they will not ask for reps.

III. On Peace Terms

Peace terms shall not be used to humilate the opponent or to cripple him economically beyond the need to remove the current and immediate threat to the alliance. No terms shall be offered which The Grämlins would not consider acceptable if the sides were switched. The terms shall reflect the opponents' behavior during battle.

These terms are not humiliating or crippling. You will have to ask GRE if they would accept these terms. I personally don't think you would ever see GRE try to manipulate so many alliances to start an offensive war, but for arguments sake we can pretend they did. I'm guessing they would have shelved the pride already and rather than try to let so many "friends and allies" continue to burn for their ego and mistakes, would have sought peace and been okay with paying 12K tech in reps, especially when the terms don't say they cannot fund it through other alliances. GRE would have it paid in minimal time.

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