cheezeitz Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I'm currently sitting at 5,713.97 infra and 864.35 tech and every time I buy more infrastructure I end up making significantly less than if I had not bought infra. Even though the amount of people goes up, I still make way less. I'm currently sitting on $51,293,797.19 (yes, 51 million) and I'm wondering how to spend this. I have the stock market and the Social Security wonder. Thanks =] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Irwin Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 It sounds like you probably aren't improvement swapping then. This is no longer just helpful, but essentially necessary by this time in your nation development, as you have pointed out. If you're not familiar...essentially you buy labor camps and keep them for many days, paying your bills every day but not collecting taxes. Then you ditch the camps and collect taxes without them. And keep repeating this cycle. The added income from this should outweigh the cost of the improvements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderland Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Banks: 5, Border Walls: 5, Churches: 5, Clinics: 5, Factories: 5, Foreign Ministries: 1, Harbors: 1, Hospitals: 1, Intelligence Agencies: 5, Labor Camps: 5, Police Headquarters: 5, Schools: 5, Stadiums: 5, Universities: 2, That's part of your problem. You should probably get another few wonders. How to spend your money - improvement swap. If you don't know what that is ask on your alliance's forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheezeitz Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 (edited) Ah, Well right now I currently have five labor camps and five border walls... I don't know if i backed myself into a corner or not.. EDIT: So what should be my plan of action? Get the interstate wonder and remove the labor camps and border walls? Edited February 19, 2009 by cheezeitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Irwin Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I just looked at your nation. How did you manage to get to -7 improvement slots?! Nonetheless, if you ditch most (or even all) of your border walls, you should be able to effectively improvement swap as I mentioned earlier. And yes, if 30 days have past since your last wonder, you definitely want to spend some of your money on the next one. Interstate may not be a bad choice...you probably want either that or Internet next (since you don't seem to use your aid slots, the DRA is not a good choice for you as it would be for some). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decomposition Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Labor Camp swapping will help as will more economic wonders. I would also recommend improving your population density by buying some more land - without water your pop density might be a bit high. You might also benefit by reducing the number of border walls but that is best figured out using trial-and-error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o ya baby Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Fix your trades for one, they're terrible. Get rid of those border walls next and get some tech. Then labor camp swap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecoli73 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 even without labor swap, you should not have hit any infra wall... 1) reduce border wall one by one and see its effects on your income 2) your trade set is not the best it can be, lead and coal are somewhat hard but I think you can do better with the 7 or 8 bonus set(or the 5 bonus set if extra resouce be lead, unlikely) 3) but since you are at -7 improvement DO NOT get rid of your labor camp until you get that number to 0...prehaps by fixing your trade and getting rid of your borderwalls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheezeitz Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I lost water and wheat, that's how I managed to loose nearly 7 improvement slots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecoli73 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I lost water and wheat, that's how I managed to loose nearly 7 improvement slots. I think first you should fix your trade ASAP before buying any more infra then see where you stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForPointSix Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 even without labor swap, you should not have hit any infra wall...1) reduce border wall one by one and see its effects on your income 2) your trade set is not the best it can be, lead and coal are somewhat hard but I think you can do better with the 7 or 8 bonus set(or the 5 bonus set if extra resouce be lead, unlikely) 3) but since you are at -7 improvement DO NOT get rid of your labor camp until you get that number to 0...prehaps by fixing your trade and getting rid of your borderwalls. This person speaks the truth!! Just dropping the walls you should pick up a fair amount of slots. As a comparison I am at 5,799.99 infra, and if I drop just one of my five walls I pick up 3 improvement slots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Rupert Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 This person speaks the truth!! Just dropping the walls you should pick up a fair amount of slots. As a comparison I am at 5,799.99 infra, and if I drop just one of my five walls I pick up 3 improvement slots. Well, it depends entirely whether the wall is needed for environment improvement or not. You're only going to gain a fair amount of slots if it wasn't needed to improve the environment. Otherwise gainng back 2% population while at the same time losing ~1.73% due to worsening of the environment by one isn't going to do much to gain back improvement slots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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