SilvioArjunza Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Awhile back in IRC we* were discussing changes we thought would make the game a tad more interesting, and one of them was the idea of larger nations being able to sell nukes to smaller nations, much the way technology is sold. It was agreed that said smaller nations would've to pay more in upkeep (2-3 times as much was initially thought), since technically they'ren't nuke 'legal' nations, and you're paying for the maintence of the nuke, plus the funds associated with hiding the silos,and all of that. So what does the community at large think of this idea? *I say we because it was late, and I don't remember who. I think it was in Echelon's channel, though it could've been our own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Well, I disagree, because allowing small CN nations running around with nukes is a pure nightmare for other players, including me. Also, your suggestion post is in the wrong section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Brutus Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 allowing small CN nations running around with nukes is a pure nightmare for other players Yes, then it would be chaos... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kswiss2783 Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 I think it would be sweet, but maybe a limit to buying 1 a week? Also, Suggestion Box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterof9puppets Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Definitely not. Like two others said, it would simply cause chaos. Also, if the upkeep was 2-3 times what it is now, there isn't much chance of a smaller nation being able to handle that anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youwish959 Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 What's wrong with chaos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otto Verteidiger Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 What's wrong with chaos? Game becomes unappealing when you're a newb of 1 week and you get slammed by a nuke when you're just starting to get the hang of game mechanics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sanders Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Well, I disagree, because allowing small CN nations running around with nukes is a pure nightmare for other players, including me. Also, your suggestion post is in the wrong section. Like this guy? http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=166955 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ Scott Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Like this guy? http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=166955 I require access to your economic guides please, they are genious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Like this guy? http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=166955 Erm, that guy might had bought nukes and got knocked down. Or, he was stupid enough to buy wonders and nukes at that level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihkel Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 I wouldn't exactly call CN an orderly place with rules and such. It's a nice anarchic game Adding the 'nuke buy' would add an interesting new twist. After all, smaller nations owning nukes can then 'deter' larger ones.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozmo101 Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 I like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SynthFG Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 You'd need to ensure that both the selling and buying nations are not in peace mode, else you could have a case where an alliance facing a war puts all it's top nations into peace mode and uses them as untouchable nuke factories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOONS Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Like this guy? http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=166955 He was attacked by 3 other nations for being a rouge,I think.He put all of them in anarchy along with him self. ~Maul~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvioArjunza Posted December 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 I apologize for not putting this in the proper place. I (along with the rest of my alliance, actually) tend to stay away from the CN Forums. I thought this seemed like an apt place. Oh, and the logic behind the whole two or three times as much in upkeep is to force them into being something that yes, is buyable, but you've to be either expecting war, or damn crazy to be willing to keep them when you're a weak nation. Also, if you're small nations that both have nukes, you don't've any of the protective wonders... meaning that wars would be solved much quicker, and generally diplomatically? perhaps? I imagine it'd make tech raiding hellish for those who couldn't get/afford nukes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US of Europe Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Manhattan Project - $100,000,000 - The Manhattan Project allows nations below 5% of the top nations in the game to develop nuclear weapons. The Manhattan Project cannot be destroyed once it is created. The wonder requires 3,000 infrastructure, 300 technology, and a uranium resource. What about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Hate to offend you, but please name a small CN nation that has $300 million on hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvioArjunza Posted December 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 I confess that I (and perhaps everyone I'd spoken with) forgotten about the manhattan project entirely, USoE. THough HHAYD does have a good point: coming up with 300 million isn't exactly a quick process when you're netting far less than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US of Europe Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Hate to offend you, but please name a small CN nation that has $300 million on hand. $300m? With $101 million any nation can just buy their own nuclear weapon. Economically these kind of wonders are a waste of resources, but if a small nation is dedicated enough to be willing to buy nuclear weapons, he/she can do it anyway. I think it's good enough that small nations can't easily buy nuclear weapons, but I was just pointing out the possibility does exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderJerusalem Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Hate to offend you, but please name a small CN nation that has $300 million on hand. I know several CN nations that are barely within the top 20% which have 100m on hand. Since that's what needed for the MP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 I know several CN nations that are barely within the top 20% which have 100m on hand. Since that's what needed for the MP I was talking about CN nations with over $100 million at the 40% or lower ranking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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