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It would need to be agreed upon, man. It's just a matter of making it fair and fun. It's a game afterall.

Hes from CRAP, KNB allies, dont know much about him but so far I can tell he talks a lot without knowing. Also quite loud for someone that didn't jumped in a conflict when asked to. We wanted in, we were told to back off, they wanted him in and went "oUr tReAty iS oPtiOnAl". Don't expect much from them though, they must have issues or something, at this point idk who in their right mind has the nerve to still stand up for LH so openly, but I don't wanna put it on all of CRAP, Sparta spoke well about them before. Also, I can't believe anyone is complaining about this offer. It was literally intended for everyone to have fun. We should take it back, @Johnny Apocalypse. Or maybe we should wait for WC to talk some resoon into LH's hollow head.

Dude, shut up, let the adults finish talking. No one cares what you have to say in this matter. Go grow your nation or something.

Ah crap, I'm barely waking up. Ok, so let's wrap this up. @Liltrekkie, I can understand you want to defend your ally's position, but you really are out of the loop. We were in talks with the Claws government yesterday and we provided them evidence that TDE did not act in the best interest of Claws; instead he was using Claws as a tool and sent them straight to war with the hopes of creating a conflict between Claws, Cobra and Cobra's allies. They admitted not being aware of the things I showed them, and I admit that was a relief, cause otherwise it would have implied they planned the whole thing together. While it may look like we want to get back at Claws, it is not the case, as now seems clear to me that Claws is not to blame here. They were used by TDE just the way he used TIE, so it's only natural we want TDE to pay for the damage he caused and now that Claws knows TDE true colors, I don't think they'll oppose to those terms as fiercely as they did when they thought TDE was some sort of hero. Maybe they'll even want to join the beating, considering TDE just used them as cannon fodder for his "mission". I could share screens, but I think it's better if this remains between Claws and us, unless they want this to go public. I think it would be prudent we all let Claws express themselves about this before we continue talking, because they and us are the only ones up to date with everything. Thanks everyone.

"You guys" sounds like a lot of people. TDE had admited planning the whole thing; Lucius falling into it gave him what he was looking for. All TDE did was using Claws as cannon fodder to fulfill his agenda, to "crush" TIE and Cobra so please, stop defending that scum, he's not some whistle-blower hero that cared about Claws' well being, he sent them to war over his selfish motives. This whole situation was fabricated by him, we thought Claws was quietly aware of this but turns out they were not. Now Claws knows the truth, which is that they are just another victim in this story.

Yeah nice try, we are talking about TDE. Again, he can remain a rogue for all I care.

No, WC, TDE is in general seen as scum by pretty much everyone that is aware of the story, except from Claws of course and it makes sense. Truth is he's recognized as rogue by everyone, even Claws, and someone almost no one has sympathy for. It has nothing to do with Claws at all. TDE is a rogue being harbored in KNB. We'll be glad to follow him wherever he goes for as long as we can. I honestly like that idea better than letting him off the hook with a mere 1 on 1 and his SDI.

This is exactly what I see. I have seen 2 days old nations with better stats. He has even admited he only hides behind bigger nations so they can do the dirty work. I can't believe people actually follow this clown.

I didn't know I was Cobra's leader and that they had to consult me for their decisions. Our treaty with Ordo is the one that gives me the right to remain in this war. For the looks of it, Ordo didn't seem to accept this weird, never seen before unilateral peace. Lol, yeah, gratz everyone and magically there's peace. There will be no peace until all parties agree to it. ^^^

Doesn't really matter, as Johnny said, there was no date agreed upon to end hostilities even for those who accepted the surrender statement. Better luck next time. Back to the table in the meantime.

Well, here goes the official statement: Your surrender is welcome, but we need to agree on the surrender terms. I sent an embassy invitation for peace talks and it was rejected. Looking forward to speak with the KNB leadership.

This

No one ever talked about disbanding them. Don't go by GK's wishes lol

I don't think peace works this way. If it did Lucius could've just surrendered and expect everyone from Claws to stop attacking. I'm a bit busy now but I'll reach out later through dm. This is quite... confusing.

I'm pretty sure your friends are the ones feeling embarrased seeing you constantly making a fool out of yourself. You really need to get your act together, man. The difference between you two can be seen from space. Lucius owned his mistakes and TIE members are now in peace while Lucius fights fiercely. On the other hand KNB members are burning while you cower in your low NS and don't fight at all. Your ego knows no limits. I feel for those who follow you.

@Smitty256, hey bud, if you don't mind, I would like to keep our TIE friends from having to repeat themselves for what has already been said or implied, Lucius said what he had to say and remained quiet afterwards. The reasoning behind their decision was Lucius taking the punishment instead of his alliance members as they were innocent. So as unfair as the terms might have been, he took them just so no one else had to.

The propaganda war is not about buying it or not. It's pretty much about each other's point of view in a funny way, or how they call it, the "lulz". If it had no effect, you wouldn't be complaining about it (you're just bad at it) and Claude wouldn't be giving me a rants first thing in the morning lol. Lucius has been most humble in this matter and has remained quiet about it cause he's well aware he screwed up. You on the other hand have things you could own. Things you could use to humble yourself, yet you insist on pulling the victim card. You think Claws went easy on Lucius? How about Cobra on you? They wanted you to simply acknowledge the things you did, hug it out and let it go. Idk what is it with my buddies still having a soft side for you, but I've been pushing for harsher peace terms. I hope Cobra will mimic Claws' terms on you and your buddies since you consider them so chill.

^^^ LH: I'm not sure when did I used manipulation or leverage on anyone to enforce our foreign affairs goals, which tbh, the only foreign thing I have tried not directly related to TPF/SS was trying to stop RFI and Boog from fighting again. If you don't mind, I'd like to ask you what do you mean by this. Regarding "tone and diplomacy" LH, I enjoy diplomacy as much as I enjoy a good fight, but the time to be diplomatic is before a war starts. It means diplomacy has failed. When this is over, I'll retake my diplomatic self, we'll share memes, talk about food, politics and stuff like that again. In the meantime, let the Bob and the propaganda war keep everyone entertained.

Dear Salt Bundy: When you do something worth hailing; say declaring on a big alliance you dislike (Polar, for example), you will get praise and hails cause those things actually take guts. Ghosting to raid, sending "rogues", attacking micros and stuff like that are not exactly stuff worth praising. Drink some water, it helps balancing your body's PH.

Thanks for all the time you have dedicated to us. This is the time you say how little you care about us and take your coward ass somewhere else until our next post.

Yeah, that's what my allies said and I didn't believe them (until now lol) oh buddy, I'm pretty sure you know damn well that Lucius was very adamant about us staying out. We were merely waiting for him to change his mind. Our nations were not maxed out for nothing. 😎 Idk man, "we could've asked for more" sounds like flexing to me lol. Why do you seem so salty, dude? You just won a war, stop botching and enjoy your victory. We are supposed to be the salty ones and we are celebrating on our end as well HAHA! CONGRATULATIONS TIE and CLAWS, this was AWESOME!

Read my previous statement, good sir, I'm not repeating myself to you. And you never know, man, a couple of weeks ago I was thinking Claws would be a potential ally. Now I'm thinking treaty with Polaris and other factions not so friendly with Claws would be nice after all. Simple acts make you change your mind. 🤷‍♂️

Sure, scared, like we haven't invaded you all before. Whatever floats your boat mate