hapapants

[quote name='Starfox101' timestamp='1350159128' post='3041140'] The right to exist free from raiders is not something that needs to be earned. It's something that should come with the existance of an alliance.[/quote] I invite you to make a coherent argument about why players have an implied right to the protection of their pixels.

DoorNail, There seems to be a disconnect between the respect you [i]think[/i] you deserve, and the respect you [i]actually[/i] deserve. You run a small alliance and have no political history, yet somehow you feel entitled to a level of protection that you haven't earned. Respect in pixel-politics is built over time and is earned through one's actions and words. It isn't even that hard - all you need to do is not be a delusional jackass and you can probably find a treaty somewhere. The bar isn't too high. But forget respect - how can we even take you seriously when all your actions demand we do the exact opposite? Instead of resorting to diplomacy when your alliance-mate was attacked, you got trigger-happy with a warchest befitting a nation a tenth of your size (if that). You then decided to stumble onto our forums, drunk, attempting to secure peace for your allies by threatening our leadership. Then the second Umbrella steps in (our allies helping us... imagine that), you start a mudslinging fight on the OWF, completely delusional about your "prospects" in this little war of yours. Your actions speak for themselves. If you want to learn how to conduct yourself in a respectable manner, just look at what PPO is doing for you. They are trying to negotiate peace for you despite your best efforts to sabotage their attempts. The fact that they have enough patience to deal with you is commendable alone. My own patience is lacking - I got a good chuckle out of this for two days and I got bored.

[quote name='Stonewall Jaxon' timestamp='1340590079' post='2994927'] I don't see the justification that MK needs GOONS to attack CSN. Granted, MK has been well-countered, but NATO is much larger than GOONS and also has no counter. They would also qualify for the defensive part of MK and GOONS' MDoAP. Therefore, if MK needed help, and GOONS wanted to be a good ally, wouldn't they attack NATO or Regnum Invictorum? In agreement with my "kicker" analogy, either GOONS has chosen the easiest war available to them, or MK has selected them for the simplest war knowing how incompetent GOONS are at war. [/quote] Given that attacking NATO or Regnum Invictorum would risk bringing in other large factions (NPO and BFF Bloc respectively) into the opposite side of the war, we would be pretty terrible allies to risk additional harm to MK. All you're doing is asking GOONS to do ineffective/inefficient/ally-harming actions to satisfy your notions of "honor."

[quote name='Stonewall Jaxon' timestamp='1340588717' post='2994910'] So then, rather than make the qualifier for a respectable war aggressive/defensive, you prefer justified/unjustified? I suppose that does cover more bases. So then, what justifies GOONS' entrance to the war? Clearly, it's been agreed upon, even by MK's posters, that their war on CSN is essentially an aggressive and unjustified war on CSN for their own gain. While GOONS has an oAP with MK, does that really make their entrance to the war justified? I mean, they are not bound one way or the other in this conflict, so with or without the treaty the decision to enter the war is theirs entirely. As Moldavi explained, an alliance has to recognize its sovereign right to declare war on another alliance or not, so GOONS' war on CSN is as optional as Umbrella's attack on Fark. [b]Now, if MK had gotten in over its head with this war and its ally GOONS came to its aid, then they would be protecting their allies' interests, and it could arguably be justifiable.[/b] Unfortunately, this is not the case. MK has committed a blatantly aggressive, unjustified war, and have even stated that they will not offer surrender terms to CSN nations. They do not need GOONS, and this is their war. I don't see anything there which justifies GOONS' entrance here, even with the treaty.[/quote] Can I direct you to the Sparta, NATO, RnR, and Invicta DoW threads?

[quote name='Stonewall Jaxon' timestamp='1340580292' post='2994802'] I see your point, but it's irrelevant. My point still stands- to pile on one tiny alliance like this when there are so many more war slots to be had elsewhere is cowardly on the part of GOONS. Plain and simple. [/quote] Is it more cowardly to abandon allies or aid an ally upon their request? Our allies asked us to help /w CSN and so we did. You're acting as if our allies asked us to go baby seal clubbing. Of course we probably would join them either way. Gotta get my bat...