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  5. I'll Show You A Monster

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted

    The relations between Doom Squad and War Jesus will always be superceded by their parent alliances, Doom Kingdom and Kashmir respectively. We will always be loyal to Kashmir first and foremost and I expect that DS will be the same with DK. I'm not so arrogant to think that the relations between all four entities revolve around me. I am merely a servant in the war machine that is Kashmir.

  6. I'll Show You A Monster

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    So in recognition of the hostilities against our allies in Monsters Inc and the actions of Jack Layton, you can expect me Kashmir. I won't bother with posting a DoW, so take it how you will. Although I will be more than justified in hitting you guys when I do.

     

    I welcome a good old fashioned round of fisticuffs, sirrah. My casualty count could use some growth.

  7. I'll Show You A Monster

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    He is loyal to Kashmir first and foremost, thus it would have been foolish to assume he would have changed his loyalties so quickly.

     

    Kashmir is always my first and foremost loyalty. Let nobody ever mistake that.

     

    And the rush to recruit Jack Layton starts....

    Now.

    EDIT: Almost forgot. Join Nordreich.

     

    When I coup SirWilliam and Yolo and kick everyone from Kashmir, I will consider Nordreich as my next home. Thank you for the generous offer.

  11. I'll Show You A Monster

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    You attack a massive coalition for an incredibly stupid reason. We fight in your ranks and bail you out. You piss off another alliance while already fighting the massive coalition by posting screens of their forums publicly. Again, we bail you out. We send aid to you during this when you ask for it. You then say you'll attack our allies. We tell you not to. You do it anyways. We STILL bail you out. You then post a message saying that we're a bunch of latent do-nothings after helping you for the past month and say we 'only' gave you $54.6 million in aid. How much did anyone else give you, by the way? And you have the balls to say 'Not that we're ungrateful'. You even called the nation sending $600k (a clear mistake in sending foreign aid) to help your alliance a 'moron'. But not that you're ungrateful, of course.

  12. I'll Show You A Monster

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted

    The only delusions I see round here right now, are your delusions of grandeur Jack Layton. Get off your stupid high horse or pedestal whichever it is, because the atmospheres obviously thin up there any you can't think straight.

     

    You can thank me (and Margrave) that your alliance hasn't been a smoking crater up to this point. You can thank yourselves that after this point it will be. Keep one fact in mind: You will be dealing with me when it comes to peace. And I have many delusions of grandeur.

  13. I'll Show You A Monster

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted · Edited by Jack Layton

     

    I have no knowledge of any poaching attempt, if one was made that was in poor taste and I wont defend it but it's long past at this point.

     

    You talk about them 'hitting your ally' but we have ALL effectively been at war with SRA since the 7th, lack of significant counters at first being due to trying to give diplomacy time to work as well as due to having no shortage of other targets that needed to be hit. The 7th is the day the first assault on our ally from the SRA AA occurred, and efforts at diplomacy to remedy that situation have consistently failed since.

     

    Finally, yesterday, we agreed as a group to peace it all (once Margrave quit pretending to help diplomatically that actually went pretty smoothly) but then Walsh blew it up. And admitted as much, all this talk of late hits - you know as well as I do they happen. I deal with them very strictly myself, ask TDE if you dont believe me. But a couple of late hits from MInc wouldnt be a reason to scuttle the peace even if they had not only come to light after the peace was scuttled. They are a classic red herring.

     

    Except that a ceasefire was agreed upon and communicated to all MI nations at war. All we were waiting on was LH's word to agree to the white peace offered from SRA. The Monsters who replied to me agreed to ceasefire until they heard word back from LH. Now obviously that didn't happen. It's not just "late hits". It's late hits with a peace offer sent immediately at the end knowing exactly what had been negotiated (because I communicated that to everyone in in-game messages). I can't blame SRA for revoking their peace offer in that instance. I'd likely do the same if I gave my enemy a generous peace offer and they responded by hitting me and then offering peace. With Xanth's invitation to join the fray, Kashmir had every excuse to do what it's doing right now.

     

     

     

     

    Right, because it's okay for SRA to hit MInc through a TCA treaty but it's not okay for MInc to hit SRA through an LN treaty.

     

    of course, SRA was justified for hitting MInc because we were the original 'aggressors' but LN wasn't justified to call us in because SRA had full authority to stick their head in III%s business.

     

    whatever helps you sleep at night

     

    You think you can simply hit our allies without any sort of response from us just because you have a treaty to do it? Kashmir doesn't give a rat's ass about your treaty. We even gave you a way out without shame. Completely white peace. White as the virgin snow. We gave you an opportunity to correct this mistake and you responded by making another. And only after that mistake was made (after quite a long string of them that we had to help fix), you complain that we didn't help you enough or give enough opportunity. How much more did you need?

    Regarding the TCA treaty, maybe you're forgetting another salient fact: That MI were the aggressors (no quotation marks). You attacked because of failed merger talks. And we STILL jumped in and fought in your ranks for a month to defend your terrible decision to do that. So yes, when you attacked our ally's allies, we STILL defended and aided you (and probably shouldn't have). When you attacked our allies directly, especially after we told you not to, this is what happens. You have nobody to blame but yourselves for your predicament. 

  14. I'll Show You A Monster

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    Let's clarify the situation- we hit SRA because you sent us a message asking us to hit Xanth.

     

    Methrage asked me to hit Xanth. I couldn't because not only is Xanth not in my range, I had three attacking war slots full (helping your alliance, no less!). I also cited Kashmir's alliance with SRA making that action impossible. I forwarded Methrage's request onto you. We have an ODP with LN and I didn't want to leave them hanging. I offered LN nations sanctuary in Flying Sabres (protected by Kashmir) and was going to speak to SRA and resolve the situation diplomatically. I left the decision up to you if you wanted to send a ghost into LN. When you told me and Margrave that you were going to attack SRA directly, we told you not to. I told you it was unnecessary (because I was going to help solve this diplomatically).
     

    It's not about "permission" to stick up for anyone. The lesson you should learn here is "sticking up" doesn't always mean declaring war, especially when you're declaring war against an old ally of the alliance that's just massively helped you in the past month and up until recently offered you protection when that alliance tells you not to do that. You know Kashmir and SRA are allied. You could have simply waited for us to resolve this diplomatically. Your eagerness to click the "Declare War" button gets you into these messes that up until recently Kashmir has had to constantly clean up. I did everything I could to prevent this situation and unfortunately you did everything you could to get into it. You won.

  15. I'll Show You A Monster

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted · Edited by Jack Layton

     

    I'm sorry he said that to you. But surely you can see how he feels backstabbed?

     

    I have been helping MI through this entire episode and I do not remember them once screwing up a deal. (I do remember Margrave screwing up a deal and blaming them for it however.)

     

    If you cannot help, yes, sitting on the sidelines and letting them find their own way would have been good. Sabotaging them diplomatically was just cold. Actually attacking them? Unbefreakinglievable. Seriously. Kashmir just lost a ton of karma so far as I am concerned.

     

    Really? The peace deal I arranged for them with Atlas was responded to by a poaching attempt on Atlas' vice president. Thank God I have good relations with Alexio. The peace that Margrave arranged with that massive coalition was threatened with constant chest-beating on the OWF. We had to beg them to stop (which thankfully they eventually did after a few attempts). That's not to mention this latest SRA incident.

     

    If we cannot help, we should sit on the sidelines? We were helping them massively for the past month and they were complaining that we were sitting on the sidelines and attacked our ally in kind when we told them not to. If your ally was attacked how would you respond? Maybe you should check your memory, Sigrun.

  16. I'll Show You A Monster

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted

     

    SRA attacked MIncs allies. You could have backed them up. You could have cited conflicting treaties and washed your hands of it.

     

    But hitting MInc over it? Utterly despicable.

     

    You think they will be an easy war because they have been on the ropes for so long, and the backstab will sap their morale. It's the most astonishingly cowardly move I have seen in... I don't know how long.

     

    I would like to know in your opinion what more we could have possibly done for them, other than the massive military, financial, and diplomatic aid that we already gave them. I fought in their ranks for a month as did Kal. I sent them aid despite being broke myself and got other Kashmiri to send them war and rebuilding aid. One of the guys I sent aid to just told me today to die in a housefire, by the way. Other than arranging no less than three separate peaces in very short time, all of which were threatened by the actions of MI, how did we not "back them up"? We did everything we could to back them up. When a direct attack is launched upon our ally, and when I arrange for a quick white peace that is then violated instantly, what do you expect our reaction to be? When we are sent a message saying that we just sit on the sidelines and blow in the wind, what do you expect our reaction to be? Especially considering all the help we literally JUST provided them. What do you mean "You could have backed them up"? That's what we've been doing for the past month and this is how we're repaid. With a direct attack on our ally that we told them not to go forth with and a message that basically insults all we've done for them. Come back when you know what you're talking about, Sigrun.

  19. Short and Sweet

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted

    I for one am not surprised at the admittance of defeat and getting your ass whooped, and then in next breathe the dung talk and asshattery by MI  and it's minions continue....sounds to me like you guys were not genius in your surrender and desire more war including you Jack? Methrage and I's war got deleted somehow, apparently due to the embarrassment of Meth and the close battle we had... :v:


    Not sure where you are getting this notion of asswhooping from. The numbers speak for themselves. War Jesus and Monsters Inc. both outdamaged their opponents overall, despite being broke and vastly outnumbered. Like I said before, respect to both sides for a good fight.

  20. Short and Sweet

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted

    To clarify, my posting of war stats was not meant as a declaration of victory but as a homage to the fighting skill and tenacity overall of our side. That even when outnumbered vastly we were still able to outdamage our opponents overall. If some see that as a tactical victory, who can blame them? I also offer my respect to our opponents who fought well.

  21. Short and Sweet

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted

    Beyond my initial war with Stonewall, our war with them has just consisted of them raiding our smaller non-nuclear nations while using nukes. So I'm not surprised on the stats considering those circumstances.

     

    Aye, it's a bit skewed because of a few missing wars, but considering the margin of ~50,000NS between the two, I think it's safe to say our Coalition of the Willing outdamaged the vast Axis of Evil in total.

  22. Short and Sweet

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    Total Number of Wars: 213
                   Monsters Inc. (190)
                   War Jesus (12)
                   Limitless Nexus (6)
                   Unknown Smurf (5)

    War Jesus
    Damage Taken: 28,646.94NS
    Damage Given: 32,670.42NS

    Monsters Inc.
    Damage Taken: 427,102.19NS
    Damage Given: 480,176.12NS

    Unknown Smurf
    Damage Taken: 32,353.84NS
    Damage Given: 30,773.80NS

    Limitless Nexus
    Damage Taken: 8,189.65NS
    Damage Given: 334.34NS

    Total Allied Damage Stats:
    Damage Taken: 496,292.62NS
    Damage Given: 543,954.68NS

     

     

    Note 1: War Jesus includes Jack Layton and Kal, regardless of which AAs they fought on.

    Note 2: War stats for the Methrage-stonewall14 war unavailable, so excluded.

    Note 3: War stats for III% not included in the above as their casus belli was completely unrelated and they did not hit Monsters Inc., the central alliance to this whole affair.

    Note 4: War stats do include Atlas who did hit Monsters Inc., even though their casus belli was completely unrelated.

    Note 5: Wars where there was zero damage done to each side are excluded as well as those wars which may have been deleted and information no longer retrievable. 

  25. HGH is better

    in Alliance Announcements (IC)

    Posted · Edited by Jack Layton

     Dude are you really talking smack about two failed spy attacks? Mr 27k warchest you are full up on wars defensively or I assure you I would be on you know, come at me brah!?! :awesome: :war:

    Edit:Also when have I ever threatened you?

    http://www.cybernations.net/war_information.asp?ID=788914

    tells a telling story as I handed you this beating while you had way more tech than me and with Smurf, Aero and Meth dwarfing me tearing me a new one in addition to no attacks the final day or so... :v:

     

    With $27,000 I have still managed to outdamage all my opponents combined when you add up all the damage I've taken versus what I've dished out (including your very brave 15,000NS down-declare against me when I was already engaged with other nations). It's sad that without a warchest or nuke arsenal, I can jump into a war and beat the piss out of the majority of my opponents with barely enough to buy a cruise missile. God help your side if I was actually prepared for the conflict. I think the fact I've managed to do that while being piss broke speaks more to my abilities than yours.

    If you think managing to outdamage a nation that has no money, is 15,000NS weaker than you, has no nukes, and is already fighting multiple other nations (six at once) is some kind of heroic and Herculean feat on your part, well you just go on thinking that. Because clearly this is the only way you can possibly win against me.

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