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Jack Layton

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  1. " he lost, even with multies "

     

    Amazing. As if we're not speaking in a thread that has your signature of defeat and surrender on it. And I'm the one whose alliance is not only intact, but has grown. Yours is the one that is a defeated, humbled, and surrendered shell.

     

    *Picks fight with a bunch of alliances* "If only we didn't have to fight a bunch of alliances, then we would have won!" ....Retards.

     

    Edit: As for the accusation of multis, I wish my multi would do as good a job as General Kanabis. By all means, present your evidence to the admin. I encourage you.

  2. For clarification, I agreed to these terms long before this was posted as it was awaiting signatures from many different parties. I got a message from Banned saying that finally everyone had agreed to it and the terms had come into effect, but I didn't see it until I already launched cruise missiles and airstrikes on eric. Once I saw it, I immediately offered peace. If it was my intention to score extra points, I would have done ground attacks and nukes as well. And I wouldn't have only done it on eric, I'd have done it on kingneptune too who I was also at war with. Not long after I sent peace, eric responded to cruise missiles with a nuke. I responded with my own nuke. Then I sent another peace offer which was accepted. 

     

    In most cases, I would apologize for the mix up sincerely because it is my bad that I didn't read my messages before I launched attacks. In this case, no such apology or regret will be offered. The same alliance that attacked VG completely unprovoked after months of preparation is now crying because I launched a couple extra cruise missiles at them? Count your blessings that we didn't finish the job with the lot of you. This is far more than you deserve.

  3. 33 minutes ago, Roal36 said:

    If you chose to say the full thing at least do it properly and accurately.

    I came to you asking you why u have to attack innocent OoT members and you said it doesn't concern me.

    I said it does concern me because my alliance has a military mutual defense treaty with OoT (which is posted in forums) and asked you to spare some of them.

    Then you ask me what am I gonna do about it. 

    I said I may use military option on you if you proceed with OoT bombings.

    To this u said its the weakest threat you ever received and I said its not weak if it is backed up by the real thing and then it was your turn with insults (something about ur grand mother being male and me and rest of TMG being femame ).

     

    Fact remains you have no reason to call foul over anything. 

    You chose to waste your nukes and money on peacfull OoT members.

    You chose to insult me instead of doing a  meaningful dialogue. 

    MU have their own reasons for war and I have a choice of helping my treaty partners in both OoT and MU. 

     

     

    "innocent OoT members" who launched spy attacks on RAD (our allies), threatened them, then declared war. Their leader said the attacks were unsanctioned, but did not call off their boy or boot him from the alliance. "Innocent".

    "doesn't concern me" when it literally does not. 
    "u said its the weakest threat you ever received" Yes. It was. And still is to this day.
    "MU have their own reasons for war" Their reason for war is war itself. Something you don't understand and never will.

    Regardless, peace has been reached so you can stop crying now, Roal.

  4. 3 minutes ago, Roal36 said:

    I told Jack warned him not to go on attacking innocent 0 military wonder nations, this is what he gets.

     

    A boy who needs men to fight his battles for him probably shouldn't be talking big. Varangian Guard recognizes a state of war with the Mages Guild all the same. Your alliance won't hide behind Hardin's skirt.

  5. In that thread I link to earlier, alonso said explicitly that you only knew about the bloc because of him. Now I don't know if that's true or not, but I do know that he told you before you threatened SCOTLAND and you're apparently friends. So even if you heard it from SCOTLAND, you heard it from the mouth of your own friend as well. Ask him if we discussed attacking MInc or doing anything "antagonistic" at all. In fact, the only times MInc came up was in the context of building relations.

    It's clear here that whatever fears MInc had for their security, while I can sympathize with those suspicions given our past history, does not justify the threat of disbandment to SCOTLAND. It's abundantly clear now that this unestablished bloc had no intentions of pursuing any antagonistic actions with MInc and that SNX was not apart of it. SNX's only involvement was to denounce the peace terms on SCOTLAND which were unfair given the circumstances. SNX voiced their displeasure in an undiplomatic way, sure, but surely this is not an offence worthy of being blitzed.

     

    Since there is no threat to MInc and this war is unproductive for all parties, SCOTLAND has already willingly agreed to terms, and SNX has been blitzed for the sake of a couple choice words on the outcome of this, everyone has seemingly gotten what they want. MInc no longer has reason to believe they're threatened, SCOTLAND will not join any bloc for 6 months, and SNX got licked for Junka's poor choice of words. Can we call this thing over with a white peace and everyone goes their separate ways?

  6. This is another quote from alonso from the VG forums:

     

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    I'm not sure we offer SCOTLAND a position now, they rebuffed our advances at first. We shouldn't go around, and offering entrance to our bloc because they may get attacked. Especially if you have an NAP, it throws it in their face. Let's see where this goes, and defend SNX if anything goes south.

     

    Even after SCOTLAND was threatened by you, POSSE's position (and VG's) was to deny them entry into the bloc on this basis. In fact, we took pains to consider how letting SCOTLAND in at that point might actually antagonize MInc and chose not to because we had a signed NAP. Although it wouldn't violate the NAP, we didn't want to do anything that could be considered antagonistic. It seems so far the only "threat" you perceived was this bloc existing despite all evidence that it wasn't created as a threat to MInc, it took every effort to avoid antagonizing MInc, and is now taking every effort to even build relations with MInc. Where is the threat? Where is the antagonism?

     

    Edit: Hell, even after it's "gone south" and SNX was blitzed, we're STILL attempting a diplomatic solution and haven't declared war on anyone yet.

  7. This is alonso, your own friend, telling you that SNX is not invited into the bloc (and given Junka's position on SCOTLAND joining, it's likely SNX would have declined anyway). You had reassurances from VG that we would not act aggressively towards MInc or its allies. We offered an NAP and did not violate it (MInc did violate it). Your own friend in POSSE who told you about the bloc in the first place (why would he do that if the purpose was to threaten MInc?) reassured you that you're just being paranoid and welcomed the NAP. SCOTLAND, as much as I like them, can't fight their way out of a paper bag in their current form, much less against MInc. Again, where is this threat? I'm just trying to understand your position of how you can possibly view a POTENTIAL bloc as threatening given these circumstances.

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